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Skyfall would have been a better movie if Pierce was the lead in lieu of Daniel

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  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Craig far better..
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Each actor owns his films.
  • Thunderball007Thunderball007 United States
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    Each actor owns his films.

    Yeah!

    For me, I love each actor as 007! :)
  • lalala2004lalala2004
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    DennisThatcher wrote: »
    I could see Skyfall working better with Dalton to its not just a brosnan thing.

    Now you're speaking my language.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    DennisThatcher wrote: »
    Why?

    Because Pierce is an inferior actor to Daniel.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    DennisThatcher wrote: »
    Why?

    Because Pierce is an inferior actor to Daniel.

    That can be debated. Only speaking of the Bond movies I agree. Otherwise, nope.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    I'm talking all movies not just Bond.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I agree with @suavejmf. Craig is overall a better actor than Brosnan I'd say. And I don't hate Brosnan but he could never get to Craig's level.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I agree also. Brosnan has limited range compared to Craig imho (and I've seen nearly everything he's done).

    What he does well though, he does very well indeed.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    bondjames wrote: »
    I agree also. Brosnan has limited range compared to Craig imho (and I've seen nearly everything he's done).

    What he does well though, he does very well indeed.

    Hmmm...let's see. Limited range, ROFLMAO really.

    Mamma Mia
    The Matador

    Thomas Crown Affair
    The November Man
    Love Punch

    The Ghostwriter
    Seraphim Falls

    etc.

    Brosnan is convincing in all his movies, no matter if pure comedy, musical, gritty thriller, action, drama.

    If anything both actors are fine and can be called evenly good.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    @BondJasonBond006, I said limited range compared to Craig. I stand by that assessment.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    bondjames wrote: »
    @BondJasonBond006, I said limited range compared to Craig. I stand by that assessment.

    Yes. Brosnan is just a classic leading man with limited range. Craig is first rate actor who can also be a leading man too. I'm not slating Brosnan, he just has more limited ability.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    @BondJasonBond006, I said limited range compared to Craig. I stand by that assessment.

    Yes. Brosnan is just a classic leading man with limited range. Craig is first rate actor who can also be a leading man too. I'm not slating Brosnan, he just has more limited ability.

    On that I agree, I never said Brosnan was a top actor. But imho neither is Craig.
    Sean Connery was the only top actor of the 6 Bond actors imho (Oscar worthy that is)
  • DennisThatcherDennisThatcher
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    I worded the question wrong. I'm not saying Pierce is a better actor than Craig, its just to do with characterisation.
  • lalala2004lalala2004
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    @BondJasonBond006 did you see Mamma Mia? Although, I guess the main problem would be hearing it in Brosnan's case. Yikes.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    lalala2004 wrote: »
    @BondJasonBond006 did you see Mamma Mia? Although, I guess the main problem would be hearing it in Brosnan's case. Yikes.

    I have seen all of Brosnan's movies, and Craig's too by the way.
  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    This is a joke, Right?
  • lalala2004lalala2004
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    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    lalala2004 wrote: »
    @BondJasonBond006 did you see Mamma Mia? Although, I guess the main problem would be hearing it in Brosnan's case. Yikes.
    I have seen all of Brosnan's movies, and Craig's too by the way.

    Then I guess you should be thankful for your tone deafness.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    lalala2004 wrote: »
    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    lalala2004 wrote: »
    @BondJasonBond006 did you see Mamma Mia? Although, I guess the main problem would be hearing it in Brosnan's case. Yikes.
    I have seen all of Brosnan's movies, and Craig's too by the way.

    Then I guess you should be thankful for your tone deafness.

    The question wasn't which actor sings better.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    DennisThatcher wrote: »
    I worded the question wrong. I'm not saying Pierce is a better actor than Craig, its just to do with characterisation.
    I get the point, and the answer from my perspective is no. Definitely not. Brosnan would not have been able to deliver SF as ably as Craig did. Craig gave an extremely nuanced performance and I'm grateful that he was the Bond actor in place when they chose to make that film.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Brosnan would have been able to do Skyfall.
    But he certainly wouldn't have been better as SF (as is CR and QOS) was written for Craig.

    I have to say such questions are highly hypothetical and to some extend useless.

    Had they adapted Skyfall for Brosnan, it would have been a different movie.
  • lalala2004lalala2004
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    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    lalala2004 wrote: »
    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    lalala2004 wrote: »
    @BondJasonBond006 did you see Mamma Mia? Although, I guess the main problem would be hearing it in Brosnan's case. Yikes.
    I have seen all of Brosnan's movies, and Craig's too by the way.

    Then I guess you should be thankful for your tone deafness.

    The question wasn't which actor sings better.

    No, it was range. Mamma Mia only proves that musicals are NOT a part of Brosnan's.
  • dragonskydragonsky
    edited November 2015 Posts: 2,491
    I agree that this movie looked like a Brosnan movie. But I think it's good with Craig as it is.

    EDIT: Nope. Actually I don't agree. I thoguht this was a thread for SPECTRE. My opinion above stands for SPECTRE and not SF. SF was great movie on its own and didn't felt like a Brosnan movie and it's good with Craig.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Brosnan does makes funnier faces than Craig.

    Anybody remember Craig in CR right after the defibrillator where he did a bit if a Brosnan interpretation with the "I'd never dream of it" line?

    I'm a fan of both Brosnan and Craig btw.
  • dinovelvetdinovelvet
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    Haha can you imagine all the Painface moments we'd be getting if Broz was in Skyfall?

    -Fighting Patrice on the train
    -Working out at MI6
    -Cutting the shrapnel out of his chest
    -Holding Patrice over the tower ledge
    -Grappling the goon in the komodo lair
    -Running through the London streets
    -Bonus underwater painface at Skyfall lake
    -Super maximum painface as M dies
  • DRush76DRush76
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    Pierce Brosnan couldn't have saved SKYFALL. No one could. That movie was a travesty of plot holes and misogyny.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    DRush76 wrote: »
    Pierce Brosnan couldn't have saved SKYFALL. No one could. That movie was a travesty of plot holes and misogyny.

    You didn't like it, did you? :-? Just kidding.

    Lol can you imagine what Connery's Bond would have done as soon as Silva made a pass at him?

    Film would've been shorter than QoS.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    mcdonbb wrote: »
    DRush76 wrote: »
    Pierce Brosnan couldn't have saved SKYFALL. No one could. That movie was a travesty of plot holes and misogyny.

    You didn't like it, did you? :-? Just kidding.

    Lol can you imagine what Connery's Bond would have done as soon as Silva made a pass at him?

    Film would've been shorter than QoS.

    =)) =))
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    dinovelvet wrote: »
    Haha can you imagine all the Painface moments we'd be getting if Broz was in Skyfall?

    -Fighting Patrice on the train
    -Working out at MI6
    -Cutting the shrapnel out of his chest
    -Holding Patrice over the tower ledge
    -Grappling the goon in the komodo lair
    -Running through the London streets
    -Bonus underwater painface at Skyfall lake
    -Super maximum painface as M dies

    That sums it up perfectly.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    dinovelvet wrote: »
    Haha can you imagine all the Painface moments we'd be getting if Broz was in Skyfall?

    -Fighting Patrice on the train
    -Working out at MI6
    -Cutting the shrapnel out of his chest
    -Holding Patrice over the tower ledge
    -Grappling the goon in the komodo lair
    -Running through the London streets
    -Bonus underwater painface at Skyfall lake
    -Super maximum painface as M dies

    That sums it up perfectly.

    Instead of all the drab pain Brosnan would have brought in some witty and cool fun, something that would save Skyfall from its utter boredome and mediocecy.
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