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Bond's Childhood shouldn't be a substantial thing in the films
I say this as in the last two films Bond's childhood has been fleshed out and given dramatic relevance in the story. Skyfall's use was fine (close to the edge though) however spectre and how they've tied Blofield into it is just too much in my opinion. The Bond character has got to have a level of enigma to him (its part of his iconic allure), that's what has allowed the character to survive been recast so many times. This level of mystery around him helps the film's have that vicarious quality. Having Navy stuff is fine and brief references to childhood is fine. In my opinion its indactive of lazy cliche writing as there are plenty of things the writers could milk for dramatic potential and character depth from in the more important timeframe of Bond as an agent. These work best though as sub-plots in my opinion though rather than main plots as the last two films have tried. Do you guys agree or do you disagree and like this fresh approach being taken with Bond.
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DC will go into history as the emo Bond: First all the stuff with Vesper and her suicide, then QOS with him in "emotional turmoil". Then SF with him portrayed as a washed up agent with a midlife crisis plus all the childhood stuff. SP veers from the source material by creating a relationship between Bond and Blofeld. This latter got the short end, as it made him look like a brat with daddy issues.
For example, Heath Ledger's Joker, CN never explained why he became the Joker, he simply is what he is: a crazy motherfucker. Why couldn't Blöfeld simply be the evil, cunning and menacing mastermind he is? He said himself that Bond had been meddling in his business for a while, so there's a good reason to deal with him, no drama was needed at all.
Its funny though, the look Swann gives Blofeld when he starts: "Did you know ve're brothers, but my father liked him more...", like she herself doesn't buy this plot point.
In Spectre it's just unessecary, but as both @haserot and @Aziz_Fekkesh said, its not enough to completely derail the movie.
I agree with your points but it works with the general audience....see:Skyfall, both critically and financially successfully. However also Spectre - critically not as well received, financially still successful.
I've seen several casual Bond fans mock Blofeld's motivation in SP, so it's not just amongst us where its proving controversial.
I like the idea of that but wouldn't Dalton have been a bit old back then for a Bond on his first mission?
To be honest it smacks of the Austin Powers/Dr.Evil story line where Austin and Dr.Evil are in fact Brothers in the Bond parody which is now making Bond another parody of itself.
I did like many references in the latest film about things that have been missing elements within Bond films of late. But, some how it feels like 007 being an agent looking to find out the organisation that have people every where is really one man trying to destroy Bond's life.... which wasn't the original reasoning behind Spectre.
I am all for rebooting and that but make it worth while. It seems to be going down a plot line that I am surprised they even thought about doing.
Don't get me wrong I think they are good films and I do think Daniel Craig is doing a great job as Bond. I just hope they don't go really daft with the next film with the Bond/Blofeld story.
They aren't step brothers, or adoptive brothers. I keep reading this, but that isn't what the film tells us. The film states that Hannes Oberhauser looked after Bond across two winters and asked his son, Franz, to treat Bond like a brother. I think people are putting too much weight on the brother angle. I can understand if people hate the notion they knew each other at all, but the connection is more symbolic than it is literal. A little like the 'mother' notion in SF.
I recall MGW saying that he had pitched a period Bond to Cubby in the '80s...maybe that's what he was saying. I think of a reboot as rebooting in the present time.
This is good and quite spot on. I'll keep it in mind next time I watch it.
Like I said there was the idea of having a film set during Bond's days in the navy,
I actually wholeheartedly disagree. And I have addressed your 'concerns' entirely in the opening post of this new topic:
http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/13846/spectre-appreciation-topic-and-why-you-think-the-24th-bond-film-was-the-best-spy-film-of-2015#latest
Technically he only gave Bond a fetus, and he made sure Bond had no idea of its existence. It's ignored in TMWTGG and probably would have remained so if Fleming lived, since there isn't a single child character in any of the books.
As for the larger topic of Bond's childhood, Fleming wisely only gave brief references to that period, probably because he understood that Bond must retain an air of mystery/mystique, and that dissipates when you know too much of the character's history.