Realistic & Serious Story Ideas for Bond 25 (...to be used by EON Productions Ltd.??)

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  • StanKobraStanKobra Serbia
    Posts: 108
    She's too significant of a character in Craig's arc.
    Exactly. One may even say that she is his Tracy.

  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,043
    I don't think Craig whether Mendes returns or not would allow it, they'll definitely address it I think.
  • I'm just saying they didn't HAVE to make her that important... it's just another example of everything having to be overly "personal" to Bond.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited November 2015 Posts: 8,395
    jackdagger wrote: »
    I'm just saying they didn't HAVE to make her that important... it's just another example of everything having to be overly "personal" to Bond.

    Yeah, maybe Swan would've worked better as an ordinary Bond Girl. Come to think of it, we haven't had a traditional Bond Girl from Craig yet. By 'traditional Bond Girl' I mean someone who:

    1. Is female (sorry Tanner)
    2. Does not die through the course of the film (sorry M, Vesper, strawberry, casino royale chick in the hammock)
    3. Actually has sex with Bond (sorry Camille, Moneypenny)
    4. Does not fall 'in love' with Bond (sorry Madie)
  • Posts: 4,615
    They are in a corner with MS. They cant just ignore her. If she is killed, then its too much like OHMSS and yet another death for Bond to deal with. If she is kidnapped, Bond has to rescue her and they are back to where they began. And have a lovers tiff and splitting up is just not Bondian. Its a BIG issue and they have to have something believable. I find it hard to believe that they have not planned something. I'm racking my brains for something that can work and, at the same time, not feel forced.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    edited December 2015 Posts: 4,399
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  • Posts: 4,615
    But if its amicable, it hardly makes for drama and tends to undermine the whole relationship within SP
    "I want to go back to work"
    "Alright then"
    Have we ever seen Bond an in amicable split? Its way out of his comfort zone.
  • edited November 2015 Posts: 498
    It's out of character to quit anyway, the only reason he came back in SF was because MI6 needed him... now MI6 needs him more than ever with the old building demolished and the new HQ tainted by Spectre... and he's like, "SEE YA".
    (I know he quit for Vesper, but this time it was just... odd.)
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited November 2015 Posts: 6,297
    patb wrote: »
    They are in a corner with MS. They cant just ignore her. If she is killed, then its too much like OHMSS and yet another death for Bond to deal with. If she is kidnapped, Bond has to rescue her and they are back to where they began. And have a lovers tiff and splitting up is just not Bondian. Its a BIG issue and they have to have something believable. I find it hard to believe that they have not planned something. I'm racking my brains for something that can work and, at the same time, not feel forced.

    I'd venture to say Eon's plan is/was to make Bond 25 Craig's OHMSS and kill off Madeleine. But given that everyone has already guessed that this might happen (thanks to the Sony leaks of the very last line), and given that the big Blofeld twist was not at all as surprising as they thought, they may revise their concept and have her disappear another way.

    Truly, "the author of all of Bond's pain" is the North Korea hackers.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited November 2015 Posts: 4,116
    echo wrote: »
    patb wrote: »
    They are in a corner with MS. They cant just ignore her. If she is killed, then its too much like OHMSS and yet another death for Bond to deal with. If she is kidnapped, Bond has to rescue her and they are back to where they began. And have a lovers tiff and splitting up is just not Bondian. Its a BIG issue and they have to have something believable. I find it hard to believe that they have not planned something. I'm racking my brains for something that can work and, at the same time, not feel forced.

    I'd venture to say Eon's plan is/was to make Bond 25 Craig's OHMSS and kill off Madeleine. But given that everyone has already guessed that this might happen (thanks to the Sony leaks of the very last line), and given that the big Blofeld twist was not at all as surprising as they thought, they may revise their concept and have her disappear another way.

    Truly, "the author of all of Bond's pain" is the North Korea hackers.

    Logan still has that moniker for me :(.

    But I agree with you.
  • To make things much more interesting if Daniel Craig and Lea Seydoux do return for Bond 25, do you guys think that Swann should be a Spectre agent? She has been a Spectre agent all along and her role is to work alongside Blofeld to mess Bond up emotionally etc... Bonds dilemma would be would he kill Swann or not? This eliminates the question of Swann being the new Tracey, as it would be Bond himslef who would perhaps have to kill her.
    I also think Bond 25 really needs to flesh out exactly who Blofeld is and the Spectre organisation. The film Spectre seemed half cooked and unfulfilling. It had potential to be something but didn't achieve its potential. The damage is done. Where it went wrong was in the writing of the script. Bond 25 could rectify that. Hire a good quality scriptwriter to write that thing and then bring onboard a quality director and lets not forget a good cinematographer. The franchise is at a tipping point and the next installment will be the deal breaker. Of the four of Daniel Craigs films two have been good and two have been bad....the next one will be the decider.
  • gumboltgumbolt Now with in-office photocopier
    Posts: 153
    MS being a Spectre agent would be risky but could work. To answer an obvious point of criticism - she helps Bond out in Spectre because she wants Blofeld dead, not because she is anti-Spectre. So next up she wants to overthrow Blofeld and change the leadership and direction of Spectre. That might make sense. Maybe removing OO7 via false love from MI6 is part of the plan (she is a psychologist and she tried to psycho-analyse him on the train)?
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,297
    asdfghjkl wrote: »
    To make things much more interesting if Daniel Craig and Lea Seydoux do return for Bond 25, do you guys think that Swann should be a Spectre agent? She has been a Spectre agent all along and her role is to work alongside Blofeld to mess Bond up emotionally etc... Bonds dilemma would be would he kill Swann or not? This eliminates the question of Swann being the new Tracey, as it would be Bond himslef who would perhaps have to kill her.
    I also think Bond 25 really needs to flesh out exactly who Blofeld is and the Spectre organisation. The film Spectre seemed half cooked and unfulfilling. It had potential to be something but didn't achieve its potential. The damage is done. Where it went wrong was in the writing of the script. Bond 25 could rectify that. Hire a good quality scriptwriter to write that thing and then bring onboard a quality director and lets not forget a good cinematographer. The franchise is at a tipping point and the next installment will be the deal breaker. Of the four of Daniel Craigs films two have been good and two have been bad....the next one will be the decider.

    That would be more interesting than a Tracy redux.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    That would actually be a great idea. She could be a new Elektra type villain.
  • Posts: 2,491
    I want it to start with a Swann vs Bond PTS. Swann is actually a SPECTRE agent that wanted to gain Bond's trust, learn his secrets and eliminate him....but Bond knew it all the time..

    And the forced love story of SPECTRE is done quickly.

    Then Bond goes back to M, gets new mission and has to face a random villain.

    ...in the end it's shown that the villain is actually part of SPECTRE that has still been strong after Blofeld was took as a prisoner in SPECTRE. In the end of the movie the villain of the movie ends up with the upperhand over Bond where Bond has to choose...will he kill the villain and let Blofeld escape. Or will he stop Blofeld's escape but the villain of the movie will succeed in his goal (whatever that may be)

    Bond tries for both, kills the villain but Blofeld escapes.

  • edited February 2019 Posts: 4,409
    I have the perfect Bond 25 down. Seriously, EON, get in touch. I'm cheap.

    It's called.....

    "BLOFELD" or "THE TRIAL OF BLOFELD"

    The story is essentially a continuation of SP whilst melding together Fleming's OHMSS and YOLT novels.

    The Pre-titles:

    No James Bond sadly. I'm gonna take a page from the Nolan handbook and use the opening the film to really establish the villain and build him up as a threat. The film will open at the Royal Courts of Justice where Blofeld is on trial.

    royal_courts_of_justice.jpg

    It's the last day and things have been building up to his inevitable sentencing. Blofeld is carried from his holding cell at Belmarsh in an armoured van. M makes sure that Blofeld is transported safely; they share a few barbs bethind his cell. Soon we are at his trial; all of the MI6 team are present and just before his sentence Blofeld is given a chance to speak. Here Waltz should give a fantastic speech in league with the material he got given when he played Landa in "Inglourious Basterds". Just then he gets sprung as Spectre turn up and shoot up the Court and lead him out of the Court.

    They throw him in the back of an armoured van and race down the strand on to Waterloo Bridge. The MI6 team and the local police pursue Blofeld. The person is charge of the pursuit is Moneypenny (Naomie Harris was a little wasted in SP - I want the kick-ass Moneypenny to return). Anyway Blofeld is able to cause Moneypenny to crash her car over the edge of Waterloo Bridge. The PTS ends with Blofeld escaping as M realises that he's lost Moneypenny and Blofeld is gone.

    article-2364712-1AD5F3A1000005DC-367_634x436.jpg

    Cue Main-Title Sequence

    First Act:

    It should be established the reason why Blofeld was able to escape was due to him having a mole at the very centre of MI6. M has no one he can trust, his organisation is in tatters, the 00 Division is practically dead, Moneypenny is gone and his crowning accomplishment of capturing Blofeld has fallen apart. M is a wreck and he can't trust anyone. He's royally f**ked.

    Enter Bond: He's living in Jamaica and finding it hard to adjust to his new life away from MI6. He is still with Madeline and they are running a bar and living in a lovely house (I reckon they should have him stay in Fleming's Goldeneye estate for these bits).

    goldeneye2.jpg

    He knows nothing aside from being a spy and the accidie and boredom that Fleming often talked about his taking hold and he's finding solace in drink. Rumours surround the island that he was once an infamous secret agent, but the locals laugh it off. How could the Englishman who runs that shitty bar be anything more than a pathetic alcoholic. It's putting pressure on him and Madeline but they are still strong.

    Soon Mallory comes and see Bond and tells him about his situation. Bond couldn't care less. However, what sparks Bond's fire is the news that Moneypenny was killed in the chase by Blofeld. 007 is shocked and wounded. M dosen't ask Bond to return, but instead says he needs someone to operate outside the system: To spy on the spies. Essentially, this film will the Bondian interpretation of "Tinker Tailor". If Bond can find the mole he can find Blofeld. Mallory plays on Bond's weaknesses; If Bond doesn't want to return he can at least come back for Moneypenny; after all she gave her life fighting for this.

    Bond tells Madeline that he has to do this and she accepts, however, she's coming with him. It's indicated at this point that Madeline has a personal secret she's keeping from Bond.

    Back in London, Bond realises that M lied to him. Moneypenny isn't dead, she's hard up in hospital but alive and conscious. M owns up to manipulating Bond to get him back as he needed his assistance desperately. I want to see a slightly more harder and machiavellian side to Mallory, after all, he's the head of a spy agency, he needs to be able to play on people's emotions and manipulate their trust in him.

    Bond and Q work outside the system and begin hunting for the mole. Somehow they find the mole had dealings in India with someone from Spectre. Bond heads there to investigate. Madeline wishes to come but Bond insists she stays in London with Q and M. She obliges. When the story crosses back from Bond's mission back to London, Madeline will continue to play a key role. She knows Spectre, therefore can help the team.

    Bond heads to India and there encounters a CIA operative, sorta akin to Black Widow from the "Avengers" films; a real kick-ass bitch. I'm thinking Jessica Chastain:

    jessica-chastain-has-had-discussions-with-marvel.jpg

    Anyway it turns out she's actually Spectre and she's there to tidy-up any mess left behind from the mole. The first big action sequence involving Bond should be a chase with her that should end with 007 getting his arse handed to. We need a really great female henchman for Bond to tussle with. She'll turn up in every act to give Bond hell and will eventually die at the end of the film.

    After the fight, Bond is badly injured and sends a distress call to Q. When Madeline find out she panics; remember, she has a BIG SECRET.....

    Act Two:

    Bond has discovered whilst in India that Spectre are still in operation and currently the new acting head is called Irma Bunt. A former German spy known for her brutual interrogation methods. Obviously she will be played by Tilda Swinton:

    4de505ae23e873be_96963400.jpg

    Bond receives word that Bunt is in Japan and will be attending a swanky party being hosting by a Japanese official.

    Meanwhile, back in London, Mallory's life is going from bad to worse. He's being used as a scapegoat for Blofeld's escape and everyone is questioning his worth. He's tired, beleaguered and running out of steam. He knows he has to keep fighting and discover the mole but there is pressure above for him to fall on his sword. He inevitably gives in. He's publicly sacked and disgraced. His Chief of Staff, Bill Tanner, will act as the new head of MI6 until a new appointment is made.

    Anyway in Japan; Bond can't get into the party, that's until Madeline turns up and walks straight past security looking the part. She'll stay with Bond now for the rest of the movie. Bond's identity is revealed at the party by Chastain (Cue large action sequence in Tokyo) and Irma captures him and uses her classic interrogation skills on him (No idea what these could be). But a mysterious Japanese man at the party who eyes Bond saves him.

    Act Three:

    This is Tiger Tanaka, obviously. Tiger knows who Bond is and informs him that he'll be reporting him to the authorizes, that is unless he works for Japanese intelligence and helps them with a 'problem'. The important Japanese bigwig who set up the party earlier has got involved with a scientist who's up to no good called Shatterhand. However, Shatterhand isn't all he seems to be.....Bond agrees to kill the man when he finds out that it is Blofeld. Also Tiger reveals that he knows who MI6's mole is, if Bond does the assignment he will hand over the information. The rest of the film will pretty much play out as the YOLT novel does.

    519126241_16_570_411.jpg

    Bond will travel to the Garden of Death in his quest to kill Blofeld. You will have to continue the whole Cain and Abel-esque story set up in SP. This is a story of brothers hunting one another and trying to cause each other the most pain. Blofeld should be a significant character from this point on in the story and should figure heavily. I want Waltz to get some really meaty material, I also think that M should come to Japan after his firing (I'm sick of these films sticking that character in London for the dry expositional scenes).

    It will also be revealed that the MI6 mole is.....drumroll please.........TANNER! Mainly as he is the most dispensable member of the MI6 team, and also because Rory Kinnear is an amazing actor. His theater work is fantastic (his Iago and Hamlet are beyond impressive) and these films have somehow figured a way to waste his talents on three different occasions. Kinnear needs to be used, he's too good for the role they've lumped him in. Tanner was contacted by Spectre after Judi's M died, since then he has been a subversive character in MI6. Initially, he was forced to work for Spectre, however, he has since got a taste of power and become a true believer in Spectre's new world order.

    The finale will involve Blofeld killing Madeline by ruthlessly shooting her in the head right after she reveals to Bond that she is pregnant with his kid. (Maybe Blofeld should even kill M.)

    In the finale, Blofeld's plan will be revealed; with the help from the shady Japanese bigwig, Blofeld and Irma have created a new biological weapon, he plans to unleash it unless he is acquitted and granted international amnesty for his involvement in Spectre. Anyway, Bond will inevitably foil Blofeld's plan and strangle him to death at the close of the film.

    Essentially, I'm borrowing from Fleming a lot here; one of the big themes of Flemings books was Bond craving a normal life only to have it constantly denied to him due to the profession he has chosen. By taking on the role of 'the secret agent' Bond has to acknowledge he will never have a normal life and any attempt to leave it all behind will never work out. It was always foolish for 007 to believe he could drive off into the sunset with Madeline.

    He needs to have his world rocked. Also Blofeld needs to earn his status as the franchise's 'supervillain'. In SP we just saw him claiming to have been the author of all Bond's pain, we actually need to SEE him destroy Bond's world.

    At the end of the film, Bond reluctantly comes back to Mi6 knowing that he will forever be 007. I love a good morose ending. It would also be a nice end to the Craig era and would allow a new actor to start afresh with the Blofeld arc closed off.

    Suit-Porn-Daniel-Craig-in-Tom-Ford-2-500x333.jpg

    There you have.

    Get in touch EON.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    I have the perfect Bond 25 down. Seriously, EON, get in touch. I'm cheap.

    It's called.....

    "BLOFELD" or "THE TRIAL OF BLOFELD"

    The story is essentially a continuation of SP whilst melding together Fleming's OHMSS and YOLT novels.

    The Pre-titles:

    No James Bond sadly. I'm gonna take a page from the Nolan handbook and use the opening the film to really establish the villain and build him up as a threat. The film will open at the Royal Courts of Justice where Blofeld is on trial.

    royal_courts_of_justice.jpg

    It's the last day and things have been building up to his inevitable sentencing. Blofeld is carried from his holding cell at Belmarsh in an armoured van. M makes sure that Blofeld is transported safely; they share a few barbs bethind his cell. Soon we are at his trial; all of the MI6 team are present and just before his sentence Blofeld is given a chance to speak. Here Waltz should give a fantastic speech in league with the material he got given when he played Landa in "Inglourious Basterds". Just then he gets sprung as Spectre turn up and shoot up the Court and lead him out of the Court.

    They throw him in the back of an armoured van and race down the strand on to Waterloo Bridge. The MI6 team and the local police pursue Blofeld. The person is charge of the pursuit is Moneypenny (Naomie Harris was a little wasted in SP - I want the kick-ass Moneypenny to return). Anyway Blofeld is able to cause Moneypenny to crash her car over the edge of Waterloo Bridge. The PTS ends with Blofeld escaping as M realises that he's lost Moneypenny and Blofeld is gone.

    article-2364712-1AD5F3A1000005DC-367_634x436.jpg

    Cue Main-Title Sequence

    First Act:

    It should be established the reason why Blofeld was able to escape was due to him having a mole at the very centre of MI6. M has no one he can trust, his organisation is in tatters, the 00 Division is practically dead, Moneypenny is gone and his crowning accomplishment of capturing Blofeld has fallen apart. M is a wreck and he can't trust anyone. He's royally f**ked.

    Enter Bond: He's living in Jamaica and finding it hard to adjust to his new life away from MI6. He is still with Madeline and they are running a bar and living in a lovely house (I reckon they should have him stay in Fleming's Goldeneye estate for these bits).

    goldeneye2.jpg

    He knows nothing aside from being a spy and the accidie and boredom that Fleming often talked about his taking hold and he's finding solace in drink. Rumours surround the island that he was once an infamous secret agent, but the locals laugh it off. How could the Englishman who runs that shitty bar be anything more than a pathetic alcoholic. It's putting pressure on him and Madeline but they are still strong.

    Soon Mallory comes and see Bond and tells him about his situation. Bond couldn't care less. However, what sparks Bond's fire is the news that Moneypenny was killed in the chase by Blofeld. 007 is shocked and wounded. M dosen't ask Bond to return, but instead says he needs someone to operate outside the system: To spy on the spies. Essentially, this film will the Bondian interpretation of "Tinker Tailor". If Bond can find the mole he can find Blofeld. Mallory plays on Bond's weaknesses; If Bond doesn't want to return he can at least come back for Moneypenny; after all she gave her life fighting for this.

    Bond tells Madeline that he has to do this and she accepts, however, she's coming with him. It's indicated at this point that Madeline has a personal secret she's keeping from Bond.

    Back in London, Bond realises that M lied to him. Moneypenny isn't dead, she's hard up in hospital but alive and conscious. M owns up to manipulating Bond to get him back as he needed his assistance desperately. I want to see a slightly more harder and machiavellian side to Mallory, after all, he's the head of a spy agency, he needs to be able to play on people's emotions and manipulate their trust in him.

    Bond and Q work outside the system and begin hunting for the mole. Somehow they find the mole had dealings in India with someone from Spectre. Bond heads there to investigate. Madeline wishes to come but Bond insists she stays in London with Q and M. She obliges. When the story crosses back from Bond's mission back to London, Madeline will continue to play a key role. She knows Spectre, therefore can help the team.

    Bond heads to India and there encounters a CIA operative, sorta akin to Black Widow from the "Avengers" films; a real kick-ass bitch. I'm thinking Jessica Chastain:

    jessica-chastain-has-had-discussions-with-marvel.jpg

    Anyway it turns out she's actually Spectre and she's there to tidy-up any mess left behind from the mole. The first big action sequence involving Bond should be a chase with her that should end with 007 getting his arse handed to. We need a really great female henchman for Bond to tussle with. She'll turn up in every act to give Bond hell and will eventually die at the end of the film.

    After the fight, Bond is badly injured and sends a distress call to Q. When Madeline find out she panics; remember, she has a BIG SECRET.....

    Act Two:

    Bond has discovered whilst in India that Spectre are still in operation and currently the new acting head is called Irma Bunt. A former German spy known for her brutual interrogation methods. Obviously she will be played by Tilda Swinton:

    4de505ae23e873be_96963400.jpg

    Bond receives word that Bunt is in Japan and will be attending a swanky party being hosting by a Japanese official.

    Meanwhile, back in London, Mallory's life is going from bad to worse. He's being used as a scapegoat for Blofeld's escape and everyone is questioning his worth. He's tired, beleaguered and running out of steam. He knows he has to keep fighting and discover the mole but there is pressure above for him to fall on his sword. He inevitably gives in. He's publicly sacked and disgraced. His Chief of Staff, Bill Tanner, will act as the new head of MI6 until a new appointment is made.

    Anyway in Japan; Bond can't get into the party, that's until Madeline turns up and walks straight past security looking the part. She'll stay with Bond now for the rest of the movie. Bond's identity is revealed at the party by Chastain (Cue large action sequence in Tokyo) and Irma captures him and uses her classic interrogation skills on him (No idea what these could be). But a mysterious Japanese man at the party who eyes Bond saves him.

    Act Three:

    This is Tiger Tanaka, obviously. Tiger knows who Bond is and informs him that he'll be reporting him to the authorizes, that is unless he works for Japanese intelligence and helps them with a 'problem'. The important Japanese bigwig who set up the party earlier has got involved with a scientist who's up to no good called Shatterhand. However, Shatterhand isn't all he seems to be.....Bond agrees to kill the man when he finds out that it is Blofeld. Also Tiger reveals that he knows who MI6's mole is, if Bond does the assignment he will hand over the information. The rest of the film will pretty much play out as the YOLT novel does.

    519126241_16_570_411.jpg

    Bond will travel to the Garden of Death in his quest to kill Blofeld. You will have to continue the whole Cain and Abel-esque story set up in SP. This is a story of brothers hunting one another and trying to cause each other the most pain. Blofeld should be a significant character from this point on in the story and should figure heavily. I want Waltz to get some really meaty material, I also think that M should come to Japan after his firing (I'm sick of these films sticking that character in London for the dry expositional scenes).

    It will also be revealed that the MI6 mole is.....drumroll please.........TANNER! Mainly as he is the most dispensable member of the MI6 team, and also because Rory Kinnear is an amazing actor. His theater work is fantastic (his Iago and Hamlet are beyond impressive) and these films have somehow figured a way to waste his talents on three different occasions. Kinnear needs to be used, he's too good for the role they've lumped him in. Tanner was contacted by Spectre after Judi's M died, since then he has been a subversive character in MI6. Initially, he was forced to work for Spectre, however, he has since got a taste of power and become a true believer in Spectre's new world order.

    The finale will involve Blofeld killing Madeline by ruthlessly shooting her in the head right after she reveals to Bond that she is pregnant with his kid. (Maybe Blofeld should even kill M.)

    In the finale, Blofeld's plan will be revealed; with the help from the shady Japanese bigwig, Blofeld and Irma have created a new biological weapon, he plans to unleash it unless he is acquitted and granted international amnesty for his involvement in Spectre. Anyway, Bond will inevitably foil Blofeld's plan and strangle him to death at the close of the film.

    Essentially, I'm borrowing from Fleming a lot here; one of the big themes of Flemings books was Bond craving a normal life only to have it constantly denied to him due to the profession he has chosen. By taking on the role of 'the secret agent' Bond has to acknowledge he will never have a normal life and any attempt to leave it all behind will never work out. It was always foolish for 007 to believe he could drive off into the sunset with Madeline.

    He needs to have his world rocked. Also Blofeld needs to earn his status as the franchise's 'supervillain'. In SP we just saw him claiming to have been the author of all Bond's pain, we actually need to SEE him destroy Bond's world.

    At the end of the film, Bond reluctantly comes back to Mi6 knowing that he will forever be 007. I love a good morose ending. It would also be a nice end to the Craig era and would allow a new actor to start afresh with the Blofeld arc closed off.

    Suit-Porn-Daniel-Craig-in-Tom-Ford-2-500x333.jpg

    There you have.

    Get in touch EON.

    I like it. Only a cursory read through but I like it. Makes up for the let down of SP but gives Waltz more to work with. Opening reeks of LTK though but maybe that overlooked with enough panache or revised without hurting the story.

    Should open on a sunny day. Symbolic of a fresh start and because your sample pic is sunny and that image stuck in my mind.

    Thanks

  • What about the story they never put on film? Actually, it was a fan film on MI6 james Bond on this page I mean.
    It was called Bullets Speak Louder Than Words". Anybody rercalls about that? A great script.
    Maybe they still have it on this page, you should read it.
    It has everything a great pllot, action, places, women, and a great villain.
    Let me know what you think.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    penbrunner wrote: »
    What about the story they never put on film? Actually, it was a fan film on MI6 james Bond on this page I mean.
    It was called Bullets Speak Louder Than Words". Anybody rercalls about that? A great script.
    Maybe they still have it on this page, you should read it.
    It has everything a great pllot, action, places, women, and a great villain.
    Let me know what you think.
    I've never read the script for that. But, I did read somewhere someplace that they were threatened by a lawsuit before the film could go to production. Do you have the script for it? I believe it's the work of Seb Harvey.
  • I have part of it.
    Its the synopsis of it. Check bullets speak louder than words and you find it there.
    Its a great title also the villain could be easely Blofeld with a facelift and a new name.
    something to talk about. A real pitty that they got suid for doing an none profit b ond movie.
    Biut as we're not aloud to do things by ourselves, like we live in our own invisible cage, the thing is people don't realize that.
  • Nobody knows that so called never made fan movie?
    Its one hell of a great story, and there was even a soundtrack for it, well part 1 actually.
    It was composed by Rich Douglas and was a lot more interesting than that Newman crappy music.
  • personally. I never liked Craig as Bond, blond and everything.
    I just like the stories. He does not looks like the one that Fleming describes him in his books nor Gardner nor any other one of the books.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited November 2015 Posts: 10,591
    I have the perfect Bond 25 down. Seriously, EON, get in touch. I'm cheap.

    It's called.....

    "BLOFELD" or "THE TRIAL OF BLOFELD"

    The story is essentially a continuation of SP whilst melding together Fleming's OHMSS and YOLT novels.

    The Pre-titles:

    No James Bond sadly. I'm gonna take a page from the Nolan handbook and use the opening the film to really establish the villain and build him up as a threat. The film will open at the Royal Courts of Justice where Blofeld is on trial.

    royal_courts_of_justice.jpg

    It's the last day and things have been building up to his inevitable sentencing. Blofeld is carried from his holding cell at Belmarsh in an armoured van. M makes sure that Blofeld is transported safely; they share a few barbs bethind his cell. Soon we are at his trial; all of the MI6 team are present and just before his sentence Blofeld is given a chance to speak. Here Waltz should give a fantastic speech in league with the material he got given when he played Landa in "Inglourious Basterds". Just then he gets sprung as Spectre turn up and shoot up the Court and lead him out of the Court.

    They throw him in the back of an armoured van and race down the strand on to Waterloo Bridge. The MI6 team and the local police pursue Blofeld. The person is charge of the pursuit is Moneypenny (Naomie Harris was a little wasted in SP - I want the kick-ass Moneypenny to return). Anyway Blofeld is able to cause Moneypenny to crash her car over the edge of Waterloo Bridge. The PTS ends with Blofeld escaping as M realises that he's lost Moneypenny and Blofeld is gone.

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    Cue Main-Title Sequence

    First Act:

    It should be established the reason why Blofeld was able to escape was due to him having a mole at the very centre of MI6. M has no one he can trust, his organisation is in tatters, the 00 Division is practically dead, Moneypenny is gone and his crowning accomplishment of capturing Blofeld has fallen apart. M is a wreck and he can't trust anyone. He's royally f**ked.

    Enter Bond: He's living in Jamaica and finding it hard to adjust to his new life away from MI6. He is still with Madeline and they are running a bar and living in a lovely house (I reckon they should have him stay in Fleming's Goldeneye estate for these bits).

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    He knows nothing aside from being a spy and the accidie and boredom that Fleming often talked about his taking hold and he's finding solace in drink. Rumours surround the island that he was once an infamous secret agent, but the locals laugh it off. How could the Englishman who runs that shitty bar be anything more than a pathetic alcoholic. It's putting pressure on him and Madeline but they are still strong.

    Soon Mallory comes and see Bond and tells him about his situation. Bond couldn't care less. However, what sparks Bond's fire is the news that Moneypenny was killed in the chase by Blofeld. 007 is shocked and wounded. M dosen't ask Bond to return, but instead says he needs someone to operate outside the system: To spy on the spies. Essentially, this film will the Bondian interpretation of "Tinker Tailor". If Bond can find the mole he can find Blofeld. Mallory plays on Bond's weaknesses; If Bond doesn't want to return he can at least come back for Moneypenny; after all she gave her life fighting for this.

    Bond tells Madeline that he has to do this and she accepts, however, she's coming with him. It's indicated at this point that Madeline has a personal secret she's keeping from Bond.

    Back in London, Bond realises that M lied to him. Moneypenny isn't dead, she's hard up in hospital but alive and conscious. M owns up to manipulating Bond to get him back as he needed his assistance desperately. I want to see a slightly more harder and machiavellian side to Mallory, after all, he's the head of a spy agency, he needs to be able to play on people's emotions and manipulate their trust in him.

    Bond and Q work outside the system and begin hunting for the mole. Somehow they find the mole had dealings in India with someone from Spectre. Bond heads there to investigate. Madeline wishes to come but Bond insists she stays in London with Q and M. She obliges. When the story crosses back from Bond's mission back to London, Madeline will continue to play a key role. She knows Spectre, therefore can help the team.

    Bond heads to India and there encounters a CIA operative, sorta akin to Black Widow from the "Avengers" films; a real kick-ass bitch. I'm thinking Jessica Chastain:

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    Anyway it turns out she's actually Spectre and she's there to tidy-up any mess left behind from the mole. The first big action sequence involving Bond should be a chase with her that should end with 007 getting his arse handed to. We need a really great female henchman for Bond to tussle with. She'll turn up in every act to give Bond hell and will eventually die at the end of the film.

    After the fight, Bond is badly injured and sends a distress call to Q. When Madeline find out she panics; remember, she has a BIG SECRET.....

    Act Two:

    Bond has discovered whilst in India that Spectre are still in operation and currently the new acting head is called Irma Bunt. A former German spy known for her brutual interrogation methods. Obviously she will be played by Tilda Swinton:

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    Bond receives word that Bunt is in Japan and will be attending a swanky party being hosting by a Japanese official.

    Meanwhile, back in London, Mallory's life is going from bad to worse. He's being used as a scapegoat for Blofeld's escape and everyone is questioning his worth. He's tired, beleaguered and running out of steam. He knows he has to keep fighting and discover the mole but there is pressure above for him to fall on his sword. He inevitably gives in. He's publicly sacked and disgraced. His Chief of Staff, Bill Tanner, will act as the new head of MI6 until a new appointment is made.

    Anyway in Japan; Bond can't get into the party, that's until Madeline turns up and walks straight past security looking the part. She'll stay with Bond now for the rest of the movie. Bond's identity is revealed at the party by Chastain (Cue large action sequence in Tokyo) and Irma captures him and uses her classic interrogation skills on him (No idea what these could be). But a mysterious Japanese man at the party who eyes Bond saves him.

    Act Three:

    This is Tiger Tanaka, obviously. Tiger knows who Bond is and informs him that he'll be reporting him to the authorizes, that is unless he works for Japanese intelligence and helps them with a 'problem'. The important Japanese bigwig who set up the party earlier has got involved with a scientist who's up to no good called Shatterhand. However, Shatterhand isn't all he seems to be.....Bond agrees to kill the man when he finds out that it is Blofeld. Also Tiger reveals that he knows who MI6's mole is, if Bond does the assignment he will hand over the information. The rest of the film will pretty much play out as the YOLT novel does.

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    Bond will travel to the Garden of Death in his quest to kill Blofeld. You will have to continue the whole Cain and Abel-esque story set up in SP. This is a story of brothers hunting one another and trying to cause each other the most pain. Blofeld should be a significant character from this point on in the story and should figure heavily. I want Waltz to get some really meaty material, I also think that M should come to Japan after his firing (I'm sick of these films sticking that character in London for the dry expositional scenes).

    It will also be revealed that the MI6 mole is.....drumroll please.........TANNER! Mainly as he is the most dispensable member of the MI6 team, and also because Rory Kinnear is an amazing actor. His theater work is fantastic (his Iago and Hamlet are beyond impressive) and these films have somehow figured a way to waste his talents on three different occasions. Kinnear needs to be used, he's too good for the role they've lumped him in. Tanner was contacted by Spectre after Judi's M died, since then he has been a subversive character in MI6. Initially, he was forced to work for Spectre, however, he has since got a taste of power and become a true believer in Spectre's new world order.

    The finale will involve Blofeld killing Madeline by ruthlessly shooting her in the head right after she reveals to Bond that she is pregnant with his kid. (Maybe Blofeld should even kill M.)

    In the finale, Blofeld's plan will be revealed; with the help from the shady Japanese bigwig, Blofeld and Irma have created a new biological weapon, he plans to unleash it unless he is acquitted and granted international amnesty for his involvement in Spectre. Anyway, Bond will inevitably foil Blofeld's plan and strangle him to death at the close of the film.

    Essentially, I'm borrowing from Fleming a lot here; one of the big themes of Flemings books was Bond craving a normal life only to have it constantly denied to him due to the profession he has chosen. By taking on the role of 'the secret agent' Bond has to acknowledge he will never have a normal life and any attempt to leave it all behind will never work out. It was always foolish for 007 to believe he could drive off into the sunset with Madeline.

    He needs to have his world rocked. Also Blofeld needs to earn his status as the franchise's 'supervillain'. In SP we just saw him claiming to have been the author of all Bond's pain, we actually need to SEE him destroy Bond's world.

    At the end of the film, Bond reluctantly comes back to Mi6 knowing that he will forever be 007. I love a good morose ending. It would also be a nice end to the Craig era and would allow a new actor to start afresh with the Blofeld arc closed off.

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    There you have.

    Get in touch EON.
    Bloody great. 3 things I would change though. No to the Moneypenny side plot, no Tanner being a mole, and no Blofeld killing M. I do love the idea of Madeleine being pregnant with Bond's kid. Also, I've seen an idea tossed around of Blofeld already being in prison with Hinx returning to assist his escape. This would be the alternative Bond-less PTS which I'd like to see in B25.

  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited November 2015 Posts: 6,297
    The PTS needs to have Bond in it. The audience expects it now; It's the weak ones that leave him out. Show us Bond and Madeleine being chased in the Aston; they almost escape but Madeleine is killed. Shades of Tilly Masterson: a fun time turns deadly serious.

    I like the idea of Blofeld going on trial, maybe at the Hague? And of course he has to escape--by van is way too similar to LTK, so maybe a plane?
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    Maybe pardoned. Not like Bond left any evidence... besides Nine Eyes was sanctioned by the government anyway.

    Let C take the wrap.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    Maybe pardoned. Not like Bond left any evidence... besides Nine Eyes was sanctioned by the government anyway.

    Let C take the wrap.
    He certainly took the fall.;)
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    Murdock wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    Maybe pardoned. Not like Bond left any evidence... besides Nine Eyes was sanctioned by the government anyway.

    Let C take the wrap.
    He certainly took the fall.;)

    Lol ...ok that's funny.
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  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    Keep Moneypenny behind her desk.
  • edited December 2015 Posts: 164
    I started writing a script, just for my personal enjoyment. This one is for a reboot, so it could be for Bond 25, or Bond 26. I'll post it in segments. Each time I'll post a new segment, I'll quote the previous ones so you can have it as a whole.

    In my version the characters are a little different in terms of personality, so you may not instantly recognize them. Anyway, here's the first tease.

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