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Now that would have just been too clever wouldn't it actually coming up with something thrilling? I agree sounds really good
I actually posted in the what you would have done differently with SPECTRE thread, I'm not a script writer and I didn't want to change it radically but use what was there but to me this made a much better story than the mess we got see what you think?
http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/529207/#Comment_529207
A couple of ways that they could have made the torture sequence more intense and more in lockstep with what they were trying to accomplish, would have been to first build up the Bond/Swann romance before reaching that scene and then instead of having Bond in the chair, they could have put Madeleine in the chair, with Bond helpless as he watches another woman that he can't protect. It would play into the promise that Bond made to Mr. White that he would protect Madeleine, and then also play into the heart-wrenching possibility that the one woman who would understand Bond not being able to recognize him and what they'd shared up to that point. It would have also made the escape a bit less ridiculous, as Bond could have helped a slightly incapacitated Swann out of the facility rather than Bond suffering no effects of the torture and going all Rambo on everything as he shot his way out of the facility.
It's so much more complex than this. While I endorse a singular vision on the page, it's not feasible for this to translate to screen without massive, unfiltered and inescapably detrimental input.
Interesting, and probably the only realistic possibility that's been mentioned in here lately. Though, other than The Beach, everything he's written has been science fiction. He'd certainly be looked at as a solid choice after Ex Machina (especially if he gets Oscar nominated for it).
Recent Bonds have felt like they were written by committee, as pointed out by others here.
William Monahan, Robert Towne perhaps...
As for Butterworth, I think EON should adopt the policy that any of the writers who worked on SPECTRE should not be invited back for Bond 25.
There is the potential for science fiction coming into play a little more with Bond--not at MR levels, of course. But we've already seen limited sci-fi in both SF and SP. I thought Ex Machina was brilliant, and Garland conceived Nathan's estate in a very Dr. No sort of way.
Heck I would be ok if Mcquarrie just wrote the story for Bond 25.
It can't be them, they wouldn't have been even called back so many times.
Scripts are always reworked and polished, most often while the movie is in production. A script isn't written, everyone agrees it's amazing, and then they go and make it. Blaming any one or two individuals is difficult because there are a billion reasons why a script may or may not work. I always find it slightly disingenuous when armchair critics say things like 'the script was shit', because you don't watch a script. Bond, like other big movies is always something that is constantly in flux. They don't and can't operate like an independent might, where they craft a screenplay that is then adhered to pretty faithfully.
You're "extremely upset" over it? Jesus. Well here's some good news for you - it's well known that Cruise essentially ghost-directs these movies and is in charge of every aspect of the production, so just hiring McQuarrie for a Bond movie would probably not produce the desired effect.
This is very true.
They are at the very least tapped out. That's being nice :D
They seem to have worked pretty closely together, judging from what Maibaum says in his interviews.
He's never really proven that. His work on CR consisted of just polishing P&W's draft, and his drafts for QoS were hardly inspiring (nor was his brainwave about Bond meeting his and Vesper's lovechild). From what I've read about P&W's unused script for the film, it sounds more interesting than the final product.
I yield to no one in my hatred of Blofeld being Bond's pseudo-foster-brother, but we don't know how much responsibility Mendes had for the idea, and we do know that P&W weren't necessarily wedded to Blofeld being Oberhauser, since in their Oct. 17 draft (summary here--it's in French so use Google translate) the villain is called Stockmann instead.
I don't want P&W to be allowed to even buy tickets to B25 let alone write it.
Did cruise also over see the writing of the brilliant Usual Suspects (also Written by Mcquarrie)
If Trigger Mortis means anything, Horowitz would write a perfect Bond movie script.
Moffat? Meh... I'd rather him not, even though I like Doctor Who a lot. Gattis I don't know, but he wouldn't be my first choice.
Logan, P&W should definitely go away.
He also controls the weather and plans to make all men shorter than him except Woody Allen.
Gatiss might give us a period Bond piece - where James relives the best bits of the Fleming novels but at the end he wakes up in the present day to Mallory giving out about him drinking too much.
I don't know how these things go, but if "we" (meaning Bond) could have gotten Mendes (oscar winner) and Deakins (maybe the best cinematographer), why wouldn't they try to get Sorkin? I think he can write a great Bond script with right amount of comedy and action.
P.S. Good thread. Screenwriters are always underappreciated and IMHO they're more important than directors
http://www.latino-review.com/news/hot-rumor-christopher-mcquarrie-polishes-rogue-one-a-star-wars-story
thank you. the reason I did this is because even though there is a chance Logan Purvis and Wade will all be back after the script fiascos of Spectre I highly doubt any writers appart from maybe Jez will be back.
personally I would think Jez Butterworth and ___________ (insert a second writerhere like Mcquarrie or Glroy I hope) seems the most likely but really we don't know and since writers are usually announced before directors I think this should be our first line of speculation... then directors then locations and cast etc.
Wordy is not always worthy, I find Sorkins words far better constructed than the average last two 007 Mendes outings.