No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    edited November 2016 Posts: 2,138
    tanaka123 wrote: »

    Mark Gatiss has publicly said he would never write a Bond film, sorry, he wants to experience them as a fan rather than write them.

    DC wrote stuff for QoS in extenuating circumstances, it was by accident rather than by design.

    Well this is awkward, please read Interview Nov 11, 2015

    http://www.tor.com/2015/11/11/get-ready-to-love-mark-gatiss/

    "I’d love to write a Bond film. It’s the one that’s eluded me. Me and Steven we both wanted to do Bond. I did From Russian With Love on radio!”


    Steven referred to is Moffat, the man who made Dr Who a success again.

    :^o
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    More like trying not to think about it. Notice he takes a deep breath in some sort of a sigh once she mentions it. Or at the end within the chapel when M dies in his arms and he starts crying... That isn't very Bond-like. Not the cinematic version, at least.

    I disagree. It's very cinematic Bond, see OHMSS.
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    Well this is awkward, please read Interview Nov 11, 2015

    http://www.tor.com/2015/11/11/get-ready-to-love-mark-gatiss/

    "I’d love to write a Bond film. It’s the one that’s eluded me. Me and Steven we both wanted to do Bond. I did From Russian With Love on radio!”


    :^o

    Not all, he's changed his mind since then, he's capricious like that.

  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    tanaka123 wrote: »

    I disagree. It's very cinematic Bond, see OHMSS.
    Which part of OHMSS would you like me to see?
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    edited November 2016 Posts: 2,138
    tanaka123 wrote: »

    Not all, he's changed his mind since then, he's capricious like that.

    Aye, whatever =))

    If Eon called and offered it to him there is no way he would say no.
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    Aye, whatever =))

    Yeah, whatever, where ever, who ever, come on!
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    Which part of OHMSS would you like me to see?

    The whole shebang.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    tanaka123 wrote: »

    The whole shebang.

    ;)
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    tanaka123 wrote: »

    The whole shebang.
    I don't see the connection... Or if you mean by Tracy's death... Other than burying his head in her veil, I didn't hear him whimpering or see him shedding a tear...
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    tanaka123 wrote: »

    The whole shebang.


    :-bd
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    I don't see the connection... Or if you mean by Tracy's death... Other than burying his head in her veil, I didn't hear him whimpering or see him shedding a tear...

    It's all in the film all 2hrs 22 mins, the whole mother of a shebang of a film.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Now that brings me to the question... Are we talking about the same OHMSS?
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    Now that brings me to the question... Are we talking about the same OHMSS?

    There's another one?
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    tanaka123 wrote: »

    There's another one?

    Never been this excited.
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    Never been this excited.

    Me too, it's like Christmas. Maybe Bond is a cry baby in that one like he is in Skyfall? The Tragedian fool.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    tanaka123 wrote: »

    There's another one?
    You tell me.
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    You tell me.

    Sorry, you've lost me.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064757/

    If you missed that Bond film.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    tanaka123 wrote: »

    Me too, it's like Christmas. Maybe Bond is a cry baby in that one like he is in Skyfall? The Tragedian fool.

    All joking aside, Lazenby was the best hand to hand combat actor to have played Bond, he a Bear in that film.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,597
    Please, folks. Let's keep this one on topic.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    tanaka123 wrote: »

    Sorry, you've lost me.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064757/

    If you missed that Bond film.
    Nope. I've seen that "shebang of a film". Who banged who again?
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    All joking aside, Lazenby was the best hand to hand combat actor to have played Bond, he a Bear in that film.

    Absolutely.
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Please, folks. Let's keep this one on topic.

    Yes, I agree, let's talk Bond 25, as we all agree that DC isn't the archetypcal screen Bond.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    tanaka123 wrote: »

    Absolutely.
    Thirded.
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    Thirded.

    But he was a bit of a tragedian hero too.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    tanaka123 wrote: »

    But he was a bit of a tragedian hero too.
    "Best hand to hand combat actor". That's what was said, and I agreed. Craig is right up there with him CQB-wise.
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    "Best hand to hand combat actor". That's what was said, and I agreed. Craig is right up there with him CQB-wise.

    Absolutely, now back to Bond 25 ...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    In Skyfall he gave a very great acting performance. Very theatrical. But, the way he played it wasn't very Bond-like at times... Most of the times. It indeed seemed to me as if he was playing a different character. While in Spectre, he played Bond at his best. The cinematic Bond as we know him, hence the best Bond performance.

    @Devlin, have you read YOLT? I would say Craig's performance in SF as a wounded, pill-popping washed-up drunk goes very much hand in hand in how Fleming described Bond in mourning (after Tracy's death).
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited November 2016 Posts: 15,423
    peter wrote: »

    @Devlin, have you read YOLT? I would say Craig's performance in SF as a wounded, pill-popping washed-up drunk goes very much hand in hand in how Fleming described Bond in mourning (after Tracy's death).
    I have. But, you might want to go back a few pages to see what I was referring to. ;)
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,140
    We need a lighter touch to direct. But also someone good at action, atmosphere, and suspense. A workman will do fine, but a highly competent and accomplished one who knows when to add an occasional creative flourish. Basically we need Martin Campbell, no substitutes.

    This is a perpetuating problem. Many fans and the producers are afraid to REALLY shake things up so they go back to the same tired well or extend their hands out, reaching for their safety blanket. Campbell is a mediocre director at best in general but he knows how to make incredible Bond movies; now is he the only one capable of doing this? Of course not; which is why it's sad to see a number of people still throwing his name around after all these years. God forbid he makes a subpar 3rd entry, the way his fans will turn on him will be swift and vicious. Move on. EoN need to ditch their creative team and bring in new talent, widen the pool and get people who are capable of doing the job.

    First of all, British and Commonwealth directors only in this day and age is a silly stipulation that needs to be irrevocably thrown out. Secondly, Purvis and Wade NEED to go. Let's get fresh eyes and perspectives of writers who've read and studied Fleming's work. Thirdly, be sensible with the budget. No one really gives a crap about the db10. It's not iconic and it was a rather wasteful resource to include in the movie considering the cost that went into making them and the terrible way it was utilised.

    In a nutshell, Bond needs impassioned people who can tell a great story that's gripping, dynamic and excellently made. Relying on past and aged talent reeks of uninspired and desperation. I don't give a damn how long the Bond series has been running for but the fact that we've only had 2 Bond films since 2010 and we're fast approaching 2020 which means at best by then we may have only 3 films in 10 years with a great leading man goes to show that the series needs to take its own advice as conveyed in Skyfall; this old dog needs to learn some new tricks. If EoN need to speak to, rub shoulders with or even flat out pilfer creative strategies from rival studio execs then so be it. By any means necessary. Things need to change for the better and that starts with the process for selecting writers and a director needing a serious revision.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited November 2016 Posts: 8,806
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