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I get your point about the generic feel in places.
I dislike much those. For SF/TWINE I even feel disgust.
This is controversial I guess. Will it make me enemy here if I admit that?
I love 20 Bond movies. 4 I could do without entirely. Hope is not too controversial :)
I am always willing to learn. Years ago I disliked DAF as well, then learned to love it.
A direct, purely action-driven sequel that deals with Bond on a semi-related mission while subsequently battling the loss of Vesper and finding his own sense of revenge or closure. Olga is one of the more original Bond girls in the series (she helps Bond, Bond helps her, it doesn't go overboard with the whole "Bond's equal in feminine form" angle, and they share a beautiful kiss at the end, that says to me that they could've been lovers under different circumstances, but their reasons for working together were fueled by revenge for their loved ones. No other 007/Bond girl relationship works in such a way.)
Add in the four natural elements shaping a lot of the locales, action sequences, and set pieces, and I'd say you have a cracking, fun, and original installment. It's an original story as a sequel to a Fleming novel, and it deserves infinitely more credit than it gets for being in the shape it's in, considering the writer's strike and the fact that they were writing the script/coming up with new ideas as filming went along. The movie should've been a massive trainwreck in that regard, but it's not.
If you feel it's unoriginal, then that's your opinion, but I'd enjoy a bit more reasoning than the choreography is akin to Bourne, or a lack of MP and Q makes it feel un-Bondian. Is MR unoriginal because it can be compared to 'Star Wars'? Is SF unoriginal because it borrows so heavily from other successful films, both new and old (at the time)? Is LTK unoriginal because it's basically an extended episode of 'Miami Vice'?
Thanks @bondjames Dalton indeed had screen presence. It was his seriousness that annoyed audiences who were not accustomed to it following 25 years of films.
He achieved a lot in 2 films. He created a sub-genre for the series. And 20 years later, they took it to a new level.
No small feat.
I like the seriousness Dalton brought to the role but I think Craig takes it a step further and seems genuinely tougher.
Dalton's presence is strong.
Funny enough, Dalton did say Craig took it further. He thought CR was in some parts the best he had seen in a Bond movie.
He wished he got scripts like that, but, EON were not ready for that.
The Bourne film kicked EON in the arse to up their game.
Like I've said before Dalton works far better on the small screen.
and her too ;)
He stands out like a sore thumb. And Dalton is giving space for Desmond to shine.
Actors would disagree with you. And like all opinions, it is subjective.
Where is the presence when Craig is with the Queen? He hardly is noticeable with the furniture around him.
That's not Craig's game though. He's not a catalogue model and is much better when he's actually acting as Bond. I also thought he didn't want to overshadow the Queen. So I cut him some slack despite not being impressed.
Craig has a presence and, to be fair, ANY actor would be upstaged by the Queen.
By your definition, I have to say neither does Craig.
Dalton is not A list, but I value his talent and sincerity. He should have done more films as a younger man.
And Brosnan's post Bond work like November Man is an old Bond doing Bourne. Dalton chooses his roles more fussily.
Disagree. He had equal opportunity. Is the Queen a better actress than Eva Green?
Shots of Craig alone walking to the camera where he is the only object of attention.
Dalton with his dark features would have done better. Younger of course.
I felt any past Bond would have done better with the Queen.
He's also doing an Ernest Hemingway adaptation directed by Martin Campbell.
Although he was supposed to be playing Bond in that scene. He knew the character.
But, I was making a point how presence opens a can of worms @bondjames. @bain123
I think whoever the Bond actor is, they are bound to be upstaged by a member of the royal family. Especially as, back then, we didn't know until we saw her that the Queen herself would appear in the Olympic film.
Disagree. He had equal opportunity.
Nope. The camera doesn't lie. The Queen was so nice about it. But you barely notice him with the butler as they approach the door.
Even the dog had presence. Woof.
Completely. He's great, but he doesn't have that magneticism that the top tier of screen actors do. It's not a problem for me, TLD is without a doubt one of my favourites, but it's a blotch on his report.
I remember the attention that sketch got at the time and was watching it with a very vocal group of friends who were all waiting to see if it WAS actually the queen who would appear.
In that scenario surely any actor would seem next important next to the Queen.
You must also remember that Bond is a massive British institution and as famous as the Queen.
I actually think Dalton in some scenes is too present. In the car when he quips at Saunders about paragraph/section is an example.
The Royal are a tradition and I'd never want that to end. But what a load of bollocks....not one member of the Royal family have any charisma whatsoever. They are just an institution and symbol...but a bland one. Craig stole that scene. I met Princess Di when I was a child. Nice Lady, but 'royalty' means nothing really other than guaranteed affluence and public appearances.