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  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited May 2017 Posts: 11,189
    Watching OP again yesterday I actually really liked All Time High this time round. Though I agree it's more a love theme than a Bond theme.

    Moore's interaction with Maxwell is lovely and one of their best scenes, but Smallbone is pretty awful. Reminds me of Caroline Bliss with her eye fluttering and deep sighing.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    Posts: 2,252
    Birdleson wrote: »
    The chase through San Francisco in AVTAK can be entertaining if you just get your head right, and then let it wash over you. The score alone makes much of it more than worth it.

    That's what I feel about the film. Same goes for DAF
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Birdleson wrote: »
    The chase through San Francisco in AVTAK can be entertaining if you just get your head right, and then let it wash over you. The score alone makes much of it more than worth it.

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  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
    edited June 2017 Posts: 6,432
    Spectre At least the gun barrel sequence is back at the beginning (please never change it again)

    I have to say the picture is popping right off the screen in Mexico, this pre title sequence is good.

    Love the score for Mexico.
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
    edited June 2017 Posts: 6,432
    Wow this is visually impressive upscaled, the depth of field when Bond in on the roof tops wow.
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
    Posts: 6,432
    Bonds expression when Sciarra clocks Bond is brilliant.
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
    edited June 2017 Posts: 6,432
    The title sequence and theme song are dreadful, I always fast forward SP is the only Bond film I skip the titles on.
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
    edited June 2017 Posts: 6,432
    The screenplay is garbage.
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
    edited June 2017 Posts: 6,432
    This film is erratic awkward scenes then great scenes, this film is shot to a high standard though the emotion of the film has too many tonal shifts.

    Purvis and Wade cut and paste similar dialog from the films they have been involved in.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    Posts: 2,252
    Am I the only one not keen on the spectre pts? The filter, the score, cartoony effects for the helicopter fight...

    I do like the initial "one take" until the explosion
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    w2bond wrote: »
    Am I the only one not keen on the spectre pts? The filter, the score, cartoony effects for the helicopter fight...

    I do like the initial "one take" until the explosion
    Agreed. It's great up to the explosion despite the filter primarily due to the 'one take' and Newman's score. From then onwards it does absolutely nothing for me.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
    Posts: 6,844
    w2bond wrote: »
    Am I the only one not keen on the spectre pts? The filter, the score, cartoony effects for the helicopter fight...

    I do like the initial "one take" until the explosion

    The long tracking shot and (controversially) Bond landing on the couch are the only parts of the PTS I like until that nice segue into the credits. Everything else is rehashed Skyfall music, repeat FYEO helicopter action, yellow filter, and troublesome green screen. It's no Skyfall, or QoS, or Casino Royale, or...and so on and so on.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited June 2017 Posts: 10,592
    Birdleson wrote: »
    That and the hockey fight.
    The score is probably its worst offender in my view.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2017 Posts: 23,883
    Birdleson wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    That and the hockey fight.
    The score is probably its worst offender in my view.

    There are subtle incidental moments that work well, but the chase music is just awful.
    It was like Conti attempting to do a poor impression of Hamlisch's Lotus chase score. I agree that there are some great cues in the rest of the score though.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,592
    Birdleson wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    That and the hockey fight.
    The score is probably its worst offender in my view.

    There are subtle incidental moments that work well, but the chase music is just awful.
    It's one thing for a score to be generic and not something to write home about, but Conti's effort really weighs the film down to unimaginable depths for me. Never has a score clouded my enjoyment of a film as much as this one has.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,243
    jake24 wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    That and the hockey fight.
    The score is probably its worst offender in my view.

    There are subtle incidental moments that work well, but the chase music is just awful.
    It's one thing for a score to be generic and not something to write home about, but Conti's effort really weighs the film down to unimaginable depths for me. Never has a score clouded my enjoyment of a film as much as this one has.
    I agree 100% and have said that Conti's score almost makes FYEO almost unwatchable for me.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,592
    talos7 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    That and the hockey fight.
    The score is probably its worst offender in my view.

    There are subtle incidental moments that work well, but the chase music is just awful.
    It's one thing for a score to be generic and not something to write home about, but Conti's effort really weighs the film down to unimaginable depths for me. Never has a score clouded my enjoyment of a film as much as this one has.
    I agree 100% and have said that Conti's score almost makes FYEO almost unwatchable for me.
    Glad I'm not alone in that front.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    It's just the disco chase stuff that bothers me (and Sheena's whining, which is only just more tolerable than Smith's). I quite enjoy the rest.
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    w2bond wrote: »
    Am I the only one not keen on the spectre pts? The filter, the score, cartoony effects for the helicopter fight...

    I do like the initial "one take" until the explosion

    I watch the PTS up until Bond falls on the sofa and smiles,all brilliant...but I then fast forward to M's office .

    The helicopter fight and chase I find boring,and the score is appalling..

  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    edited June 2017 Posts: 2,252
    The FYEO score is generic in places but otherwise is not too offensive, except the random piano smashing during the ski sequences that sounds like a cat walked on the piano.

    Whereas Skyfall/Spectre sounds like a cat jumping up and down on the instrument during the action scenes with an ocassional flick of the tail
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
    Posts: 6,432
    barryt007 wrote: »
    w2bond wrote: »
    Am I the only one not keen on the spectre pts? The filter, the score, cartoony effects for the helicopter fight...

    I do like the initial "one take" until the explosion

    I watch the PTS up until Bond falls on the sofa and smiles,all brilliant...but I then fast forward to M's office .

    The helicopter fight and chase I find boring,and the score is appalling..

    The SP title song makes me want to pour acid in my ears :))
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2017 Posts: 23,883
    fire_and_ice wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    w2bond wrote: »
    Am I the only one not keen on the spectre pts? The filter, the score, cartoony effects for the helicopter fight...

    I do like the initial "one take" until the explosion

    I watch the PTS up until Bond falls on the sofa and smiles,all brilliant...but I then fast forward to M's office .

    The helicopter fight and chase I find boring,and the score is appalling..

    The SP title song makes me want to pour acid in my ears :))
    If you want to cause someone to commit suicide, putting this PoS on loop would do it. I'd be done in about an hour I would think.
  • fire_and_icefire_and_ice
    Posts: 6,432
    bondjames wrote: »
    fire_and_ice wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    w2bond wrote: »
    Am I the only one not keen on the spectre pts? The filter, the score, cartoony effects for the helicopter fight...

    I do like the initial "one take" until the explosion

    I watch the PTS up until Bond falls on the sofa and smiles,all brilliant...but I then fast forward to M's office .

    The helicopter fight and chase I find boring,and the score is appalling..

    The SP title song makes me want to pour acid in my ears :))
    If you want to cause someone to commit suicide, putting this PoS on loop would do it. I'd be done in about an hour I would think.

    That was my first thought, it's no exaggeration the song is the pits. I know some like it though it's nails down a chalk board for me.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,588
    talos7 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    That and the hockey fight.
    The score is probably its worst offender in my view.

    There are subtle incidental moments that work well, but the chase music is just awful.
    It's one thing for a score to be generic and not something to write home about, but Conti's effort really weighs the film down to unimaginable depths for me. Never has a score clouded my enjoyment of a film as much as this one has.
    I agree 100% and have said that Conti's score almost makes FYEO almost unwatchable for me.

    Me too.

    When I saw FYEO last week, as part of the double feature, I hoped the music wouldn't be as distracting (I didn't see FYEO back in '81). It didn't help much. My mini review here: For Your Eyes Only.

  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
    Posts: 6,844
    Why I'm doing this to myself I have no idea. Least watched Bond I guess. Doing it for those moments.

    Anyways...

    Geez is Bond cheeky during that Mexico City debriefing. Bernard Lee's M never would have stood for this with any Bond. Neither would Judi's. I think Craig should have been directed to be a little less "la dee da, in your face, M" and Fiennes a lot sterner.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
    Posts: 6,844
    There are moments. The Bellucci stuff is dynamite.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
    Posts: 6,844
    So everybody in SPECTRE is multilingual. I'm no linguist, but if everyone understands each other's languages, wouldn't it be easiest to simply choose one language and conduct the entire meeting in it? Have to imagine that would be murder on your brain's electrodes, switching back and forth between languages every time a new person speaks.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
    Posts: 6,844
    Bond puts the SPECTRE ring on his ring finger. His right hand, sure, but his ring finger nonetheless. Shades of OHMSS in all this.
  • MilovyMilovy
    edited June 2017 Posts: 676
    @Some_Kind_Of_Hero The last image of the titles sequence also looks like Bond proposing to a woman. Maybe even getting rejected. I wonder if Kleinman put together this sequence while the script still had Bond and Madeleine walking away from each other at the end.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
    Posts: 6,844
    Possibility, @Milovy. I know that those title sequences take a very long time to put together.

    Train fight: I recall someone mentioning recently that Hinx's eye-gouging technique is repeated in the train fight, but I'm afraid that it isn't. There's a moment where Hinx is compressing Bond's skull from behind with a slight crunching sound effect. Isn't going for Bond's eyes though.
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