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Oh I'm sorry, did I strike a nerve? I must bow in forgiveness to the almighty wizard. Don't make me laugh. I didn't threaten you at all. Why don't you stop hiding behind Partridge and just own up to your mistakes.
@thelivingroyale, It's easy to do I'm sure but sometimes words hurt people. But you can't know for sure how Jason feels. If he wants to chip in, I'm sure he will but when I see my friends treated like this, whether or not it was a joke, I'm going to call it out like I see it.
To clarify, the depression would be because his last chance at a normal life has gone out the window and because with no missions to go on he's finally been forced to deal with the trauma of all he's been through, but I get you. I don't mind if her leaving happens off camera either. I just think a broken Bond is a must if they're going down the YOLT route. I can see why people aren't keen and I was routing for a recast and a stand alone film myself, but with Craig being back and them sort of setting it up this seems like the perfect opportunity to go down the YOLT route so that's what I'd like to see. Go all out, make it dark and surreal and character driven, and then do something more fun and straight forward with the next actor (preferrably only two years later rather than half a decade but not holding my breath).
I like your ideas
Thank you. I like your profile picture. Brosnan always looked unbelieveably cool with a gun in his hand.
You're right though. Since they've got Craig back they might as well go all in.
God I hope this happens.
I understand what you mean about trying to have it both ways with SP. The blend of different styles (classic Bond but also character focused like the other Craig films) is what I loved about it but it was a weird choice. On the one hand it was a deliberate Moore/Brosnan throwback, on the other hand they seemed to want to set up a Tracy retread (I think Bunt and "we have all the time in the world" both being in the script at one point makes that clear). I thought it worked well but I understand why it's been so divisive because by trying to have it both ways, they alienated a lot of fans who would have been happy if they'd gone all out on either approach (a proper old school OTT Bond film or a proper Craig Bond film).
I hope that you enjoy the next one more. It'd be nice to get another film that nearly all of us can enjoy again. That really added to the excitement when SF came out I think. There were so many posts on here unaminously singing its praises (got a bit more divisive as time went on but in those early days nearly all of us seemed to love it).
I'd love to see Bond living off the grid, perhaps even enjoying this life (albeit a little restlessly); he spends the days with married mistresses, the nights in the casinos... But, yes, he does have that "itch". He does realize that the life he's leading is meandering...
So, when he hears there's a hearing for Blofeld, Bond sneaks back into the country to bare witness. And this is where he sees the video of Blofeld torturing Vesper.
Bond's blood boils, but--
It's within seconds of this video showing that--
A huge explosion and Blofeld is sprung from jail (leaving behind a bunch of corpses)...
Later that day, SPECTRE's big ticking-time bomb scheme is revealed. It has to be something that is also a trap to bring Bond out from the bushes he hides in.
Bond, loaded with the "itch", the video of Vesper, and knowing, although this is a trap, his country is calling him, marches back into MI6 (since "Blofeld's a bit of a must" for him, on several different levels). He asks M for his licence to kill.
No Maddy. Not even a mention of her.
Same, I'm praying that the next few details we get will hint at that direction (if they end up location scouting in Japan for example my excitement levels will go through the roof). I was all for a classically structured Bond film to be honest but that was when I thought there'd be a new actor. But instead Craig is back for one more, and since we'll be getting a refresh/reboot of sorts in a few years anyway where they can do something more old school and traditional they may as well go all in and do something different for the next one. Please the Fleming fans and give Craig some proper dramatic material to sink his teeth into. YOLT would be right up his street. They've got the perfect opportunity and the perfect Bond for it so like you I really hope that's what they do.
SP has been a terribly divisive film for the fan community, and it's quite unfortunate all round. More than anything, I think the negativity is there because of the connectivity. If it was a standalone film nobody would mind that much imho, but the fact that it is a part of a connected (and potentially continuing) whole and fell flat with so many people is where the problem really lies imho. That's really why I wanted Craig out.
B26 is the one I can't wait for though, and I hope it's out two years after B25, as you said. I'm not getting any younger!
@peter another sound idea.
(on a separate matter: so far I haven't been able to get tics for the premiere of KINGS (today I walked into a s-storm (from kids going back to school, to business on my end); but, no matter, I will be there to see DC arrive with my teenage kids (who all love DC-- although my boy couldn't stand SP to the point it had almost ruined his entire feelings about the franchise... Luckily he is cooling (after he recently saw CR while up at a friends cottage this summer-- he was blown away again by how good it was , so, as another Bond famously said-- "saved by the bell"))...
Nope, the reasons SPECTRE was criticised were the brother angle, the scooby gang overdose, an uninteresting love interest who is supposed to be Bond's new great love and a boring third act. Also, the fact the movie lacks an identity as it both tries to be an OTT yet a Craig movie at the same time, as stated above. Those were the movie's main problems.
They took a risk bringing him back.
An even bigger one by saying it's his last.
The pressure, and the ball, is in their court now...
(by the way-- great profile pic!)
@jake24-- if you want to meet another MI6/Bond fan that day, please PM or email me. Coffee's on me!)
Perfectly summarized- i might even add terrible dialogue and an uninteresting story/ premise inbetween the action
The writers / producers have conditioned the audience to expect big, dramatic beats in the modern, DC era. They come at the expense of good spy yarns.
The most critically acclaimed DC films in CR and SF both have "big drama".
The problem with this approach is you can only use each "drama bomb" once.
We've had Bond in love and we've had Bond lose his surrogate mother.
Me, I loathe how big drama has crept into Bond. I am warming more and more to QoS (a very flawed film) precisely because it is the only DC feature with a fully developed plot.
If you look closely, none of the others have a narrative worth a damn. I love CR because it was fresh and it had style to spare. But going after Le Chiffre's money? Really?
Give me a f**cking plot. Study FYEO. Study TLD. Expand and modernise those structures and, for the love of all that is good, forget about emotive beats.
Won't happen though. Subscription TV has ruined us all.
I hope so. While I've enjoyed the premises of the Craig Bond films, I wish we had more of the plot details and intricacies we used to get.
And @Tuck91, the "real world threat" will most likely be a subplot, a McGuffin, much like the "solex agitator" in TMWTGG or "Nine Eyes" in SP, along with many other examples from previous old Bond movies I care not to mention. B25 can still have room to include Madeleine's death and the "rumor of revenge" plus a real world threat.