No Time To Die: Production Diary

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    Dennison wrote: »

    Bond 25 will be amazing - how about that?! Better than all the pessimism and depressing negativity ...

    Finally!! Welcome @Dennison ;-) *High-Five!*
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
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    I am not even talking about continuity here. That's not what I've been discussing here. I think it's wrong to imply that "Oooowh because we turn Bond 25 into another continuity driven event again, we need to force out the fun". I mean, come on, I think that kind of reasoning is pretty flawed. SP can teach you a lot, but not everything. And it's also within the possibilities that EON is currently drafting one hell of a good Bond film, that perhaps merges the best of both...of all worlds.

    We all need to calm down a bit, we need to call empirical knowledge.....once it is empirical knowledge. Which is now, 2 years before D-Day, hardly the case. Yes, you can point towards certain possibilities of directions (hence I created the betiing topic! https://www.mi6community.com/discussion/18445/the-mi6community-betting-corner-bet-1-added-next-bond-25-director#latest ). You can even predict until your balls fall off. But we are indeed not sitting in an office at Piccadilly brainstorming with the producers. We are fans, not members of the crew (although I do think fans need to be treated with more credibility and attention from EON, but that's an entirely different discussion). So in the end -and that's always the case with movies- we have to wait and see.

    It can turn out in a film that's even more shitty than SP. But at this stage I prefer to be hopeful and that Bond 25 will be a magnificent send-off. That uncertainty...that is the only real truth at this stage....for us nerdy fanboys :-). That is the only factual knowledge we have two years before November 8th 2019.

    I'm calm and I'm neither a doomsayer nor am I a mindless automaton. But what is your point? Everyone be positive? We're all just speculating. You're reading negativity into my comments and speculation when in fact I would argue they're constructive comments generated through years of being a Bond fan and watching the Daniel Craig era unfold. It's just as valid as your speculations. If it makes you feel any better I'm a positive person - and positive about Bond. I love every bond film - even CR 67 and 54. And I will love Bond 25.
  • edited October 2017 Posts: 19,339

    I'm calm and I'm neither a doomsayer nor am I a mindless automaton. But what is your point? Everyone be positive? We're all just speculating. You're reading negativity into my comments and speculation when in fact I would argue they're constructive comments generated through years of being a Bond fan and watching the Daniel Craig era unfold. It's just as valid as your speculations. If it makes you feel any better I'm a positive person - and positive about Bond. I love every bond film - even CR 67 and 54. And I will love Bond 25.

    That's a bit too positive..... ;)

  • edited October 2017 Posts: 19,339
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    barryt007 wrote: »

    That's a bit too positive..... ;)

    Maybe he's a ... wait for it .... Bond fan?!!!!!
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    Dennison wrote: »

    Maybe he's a ... wait for it .... Bond fan?!!!!!

    You have to like CR'67 to be a Bond fan ?

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    barryt007 wrote: »

    You have to like CR'67 to be a Bond fan ?

    Did I say that? Let me think .... No.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    Cool fact for you all while I remember, taking inflation in to account, Thunderball is the highest grossing Bond.
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    Dennison wrote: »

    Did I say that? Let me think .... No.

    Can I ask if you are being sarcastic or humorous in your intent,before I reply properly ?

  • JeffreyJeffrey The Netherlands
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    Dennison wrote: »

    Maybe he's a ... wait for it .... Bond fan?!!!!!

    On a Bond forum? I doubt it. ;-)

    Anyway, you can express worries, doubts, excitement, enthusiasm etc. - you can praise and criticise - and still be a fan.
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
    edited October 2017 Posts: 2,722
    barryt007 wrote: »

    That's a bit too positive..... ;)

    Maybe I was overstating my case a little @barryt007 ;-)

    But I have watched it more times than a human probably should and do own in on DVD, Blu Ray and vinyl soundtrack (which is a fun soundtrack!). I also have the making of book and enjoy the making of doco on the Blu Ray.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    Jeffrey wrote: »

    On a Bond forum? I doubt it. ;-)

    Anyway, you can express worries, doubts, excitement, enthusiasm etc. - you can praise and criticise - and still be a fan.

    Stop talking sense Jeffrey this is an internet forum!
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    Maybe I was overstating my case a little @barryt007 ;-)

    But I have watched it more times than a human probably should and do own in on DVD, Blu Ray and vinyl soundtrack (which is a fun soundtrack!). I also have the making of book and enjoy the making of doco on the Blu Ray.

    I must admit the soundtack is groovy,but that's it haha .

  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
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    Back on topic - I like Rory Kinnear but could do without him for a film.
    But bring back Felix from Westworld please!
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    barryt007 wrote: »

    Can I ask if you are being sarcastic or humorous in your intent,before I reply properly ?

    Neither - never suggested for one minute that one needs to like CR'67 to be a Bond fan, merely answering your question.
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    Jeffrey wrote: »

    On a Bond forum? I doubt it. ;-)

    Anyway, you can express worries, doubts, excitement, enthusiasm etc. - you can praise and criticise - and still be a fan.

    Absolutely!
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
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    barryt007 wrote: »

    I must admit the soundtack is groovy,but that's it haha .

    http://nerdist.com/we-want-to-see-this-campy-version-of-daniel-craigs-casino-royale/
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    Dennison wrote: »

    Neither - never suggested for one minute that one needs to like CR'67 to be a Bond fan, merely answering your question.

    OK.
    Thanks for the clarification.

  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Let's get back to business.

    Seriously, if Rory Kinnear is "holding out", why pursue him further? I can't name one fan that's keen on seeing his iteration of Tanner, again.

    As for me, I won't be going mad if Rory Kinnear, Ben Whishaw and Naomie Harris all get sacked. Their characters do nothing for me. And the reason I'm willing to see Fiennes once more as M is because I believe he's an outstanding actor and was cast well in the role as we see at the end of Skyfall. I'm hoping to see more Bernard Lee out of him than Tim Pigott-Smith's Pegasus from Johnny English.
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    barryt007 wrote: »

    OK.
    Thanks for the clarification.

    But if one likes DAD on the other hand ...

    Before you ask the question, yes this time I am joking!
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    Let's get back to business.

    Seriously, if Rory Kinnear is "holding out", why pursue him further? I can't name one fan that's keen on seeing his iteration of Tanner, again.

    As for me, I won't be going mad if Rory Kinnear, Ben Whishaw and Naomie Harris all get sacked. Their characters do nothing for me. And the reason I'm willing to see Fiennes once more as M is because I believe he's an outstanding actor and was cast well in the role as we see at the end of Skyfall. I'm hoping to see more Bernard Lee out of him than Tim Pigott-Smith's Pegasus from Johnny English.

    That also has to include some respect from Bond,after his behaviour towards him in SP.

  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited October 2017 Posts: 15,423
    Dennison wrote: »
    But if one likes DAD on the other hand ...
    I love DAD. Sue me. ;)
    barryt007 wrote: »

    That also has to include some respect from Bond,after his behaviour towards him in SP.
    Agreed. Bond's behaviour and attitude towards M was really out of character. It was that moment when this "trust no one" mannerism started wearing a bit too thin.
  • edited October 2017 Posts: 466
    I think Fiennes is fine as M. Him vetoing that terrible plotline involving him as a traitor in SP is reason enough for me to want his return.

    As for the others, ehh...I'm not really here nor there but I'd say for the sake of things, it might be nice to have the consistency of the same actors in those roles throughout Craig's tenure. Same for Felix and Wright, although I actually really like him in that role.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    Let's get back to business.

    Seriously, if Rory Kinnear is "holding out", why pursue him further? I can't name one fan that's keen on seeing his iteration of Tanner, again.

    As for me, I won't be going mad if Rory Kinnear, Ben Whishaw and Naomie Harris all get sacked. Their characters do nothing for me. And the reason I'm willing to see Fiennes once more as M is because I believe he's an outstanding actor and was cast well in the role as we see at the end of Skyfall. I'm hoping to see more Bernard Lee out of him than Tim Pigott-Smith's Pegasus from Johnny English.

    I think he is being coy with the press so they do not probe him further. he has merely stated he does not know if he will return, because he has not been asked and he does not know if Tanner has a part in the film. He also said this is the way it always is, until they ask you do not know.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    Let's get back to business.

    Seriously, if Rory Kinnear is "holding out", why pursue him further? I can't name one fan that's keen on seeing his iteration of Tanner, again.

    As for me, I won't be going mad if Rory Kinnear, Ben Whishaw and Naomie Harris all get sacked. Their characters do nothing for me. And the reason I'm willing to see Fiennes once more as M is because I believe he's an outstanding actor and was cast well in the role as we see at the end of Skyfall. I'm hoping to see more Bernard Lee out of him than Tim Pigott-Smith's Pegasus from Johnny English.


    Whishaw and Harris are terrific. They both need to be back, at the very least.
  • edited October 2017 Posts: 832
    TripAces wrote: »


    Whishaw and Harris are terrific. They both need to be back, at the very least.

    The one I would be upset of we lost is wishaw, love him as q, though his presence at the end of spectre was unnecessary, along with the rest of the mi6 crew. The others are less important than wright.
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    It's out of character. They won't sell the franchise.

    Maybe. I don't know them personally so I really can't say. But the possibility exists, nevertheless.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited October 2017 Posts: 15,423
    TripAces wrote: »


    Whishaw and Harris are terrific. They both need to be back, at the very least.
    I disagree. They're both cast in certain personifications of characters that are badly constructed to begin with. Kinnear also falls flat in that department. Whishaw's Q does absolutely nothing for me (he was better in Spectre, though. I'll give him that), and Harris' Moneypenny has too much screentime. I'd rather they get more suitable actors and an actress for these roles.

    Maybe. I don't know them personally so I really can't say. But the possibility exists, nevertheless.
    Not with these two, mate.
  • edited October 2017 Posts: 4,619
    It's out of character. They won't sell the franchise.
    Your crystal ball is cloudy, Mr. Devlin.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Your crystal ball is cloudy, Mr. Devlin.
    We'll see, Mr. Pistoles.
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