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So much better than the lame 'I'll just crash a plane into these cars and rely entirely on luck for Madeline and I to survive' scene we got.
I personally think DAD is a Bond film for dumb-asses :-).
It is enjoyable when you are pissed though.
Are you joking or what?
Not really to be honest. Not when you ask for my personal opinion. The biggest problem for me with DAD is the icy/grey cinematography in combination with Peter Lamont's rather lacklustre production design (he did much better for "Casino Royale", but to me he never really was a good replacement of Ken Adam. Dennis Gassner however brings some Ken Adam flair to the films, in a more modernist way). This.....ice hotel did not do it for me. Cold, bloated, without function. I mean, Ken Adam's volcano lair actually had a stylish bungalow in it for Blofeld. In DAD it was nothing more than a showcase for guests. And then there's the CGI. Which already started to annoy me when I saw the fake backlit projection of Hong Kong. Such a pity the location wasn't used in a way Roger Deakins or Hoyte van Hoytema did (with aerial shots).
SP to me has a much warmer cinematography and is a much more honest and atmospheric with regard to the production design. It's not just big for being big. I really believed that this bungalow inside the impact crater was Blofeld's bungalow. I really believed the eeriness of the SPECTRE-meeting in the Palacio Cadenza. I got truly indulged in Mr White's unclean Austrian log cabin. I loved the ultra-white torture room as opposed to hanging Jinx in a car manufacturer robot (simply put: way more stylish visually). Dennis Gassner and Hoyte van Hoytema did a great job, whereas Peter Lamont and David Tattersall to me created more of a dud. Not to mention the ghastly sped-up camerawork.
And then I haven't even talked about the CGI, the ridiculous gene-engineering plot. If THIS is what we want to see in Bond 25.....then by all means I'm gonna be kneeling down for Ethan Hunt. DAD is certainly entertaining. But to me it needs to be mixed by a good amount of credibility, whether its created by plot/story or cinematography/production design. And I think that still is possible, to create a film that's both entertaining and rooted in some realism.
"SPECTRE" to that extend is, at least for me, as my personal opinion, better than "Die Another Day" (see how I add the line "at least for me, as my personal opinion"? I hope I don't make my opinion look like it's a given fact).
Story-wise, both "SPECTRE" and "Die Another Day" are pretty outlandish. But in different ways. Blofeld's plot to become the sole supplier of intelligence data to MI6 and the larger Nine Eyes program is rooted in more realism to me than........a space laser weapon to destroy North-Korea. Not even Trump wouldn't go that far.
The foster-brother links between Bond and Blofeld? They just annoy a large portion of fans because it was done before in films like "The Dark Knight Rises" and "Star Trek Into Darkness". Sam Mendes tried a bit too hard to give background information about certain characters. It made the film look silly. But at least a foster-brother arrangement is -again- rooted in more realism than simply using gene therapy to make an Asian look like a perfect caucasian: Gustav Graves.
But this is the prime reason I haven't fully watched DAD since 2008 probably. I just....can't....finish it. It's too silly, and especially made for an audience that was having less worries about geopolitical stuff and maintaining prosperity. DAD was the product of its time, of a decade where there were no worries. Hence it has lost to me a lot of.....impact. With "SPECTRE" at times it was like I was watching a Sean Connery flick with its dreamy cinematography and production design.
I hope I make some sense here :-). What do you think @Getafix? If I want a grey overblown action porno-vaganza, I ought to buy stuff from "The Fast And The Furious" franchise. Not Bond :-).
Yeah, sure
Maybe you shouldn't think in the first place.
Maybe you should read my more...nuanced follow-up. But to summarize it? Yeah, DAD could pretty much be stuff for the more simple-minded people around here. Let's face it, DAD is also a very simple-minded Bond film with no clear ideas, regardless if the ideas are good or badly executed.
What's that word again... ah, yes, pretentious. Now if you'll excuse me, I am taking some time to go vomit.
I do hope that because I don't mind DAD ,that you arn't calling me and other members here 'simple-minded' ?
Yes, that clip was more entertaining than SP's snow chase and cost significantly less by millions. Add it to the mountain of evidence that the decision makers at the top need to be replaced.
Nuanced? Just an endless stream of negativity which, when the rest of us do it, is a capital crime in your book.
Why can't you be more positive and respectful about DAD?
What about using a stunt double for a ski chase? Just using Craig for close ups. Or is that something that will look too obvious nowadays?
Bond films used to be all about the stunts as much as anything else.
Love the ski chase from TWINE as well. I figured they used a stunt double but, for me at least, it isn't really noticeable.
Ooowh yeah, and since when have you given any...any proper insightful response to this. Dear @ClarkDevlin.....I will stay proudly an elitist "who all knows it better" if no one is actually responding to the actual contents :-):
Some content.
Dear @ClarkDevlin. You are a fine young man :-).