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Title Credits: TWINE (among the best)
Main Villain: TWINE
Main Bond Girl: DN
Henchman: TWINE
Overall Plot: TWINE
Dialogue: DN
Score: TWINE
Settings: DN
Action: TWINE
Humour: DN
Cinematography: DN
Benign Bizarre: DN
Suspense: DN
Minor Characters: DN
Glamour: DN
Bond Performance: DN
DN: 10
TWINE: 7
Title Credits: TWINE
Main Villain: TWINE (i'm basing this on Elektra)
Main Bond Girl: TWINE (also Elektra)
Henchman: DN ( Prof Dent - brilliant !)
Overall Plot: TWINE
Dialogue: DN
Score: TWINE
Settings: DN
Action: TWINE
Humour: TWINE
Cinematography: DN
Benign Bizarre: DN
Suspense: TWINE
Minor Characters: TWINE (Desmond and Zukovsky's last outing.)
Glamour: TWINE
Bond Performance: DN
DN: 6
TWINE: 11
Title Credits: TWINE
Main Villain: TWINE
Main Bond Girl: TWINE
Henchman: DN
Overall Plot: TWINE
Dialogue: TWINE
Score: TWINE
Settings: TWINE
Action: TWINE
Humour: TWINE
Cinematography: DN
Benign Bizarre: DN
Suspense: TWINE
Minor Characters: TWINE
Glamour: TWINE
Bond Performance: DN
DN: 4
TWINE: 13
Title Credits: TWINE (Slickly done - I like both TND and TWINE's credits)
Main Villain: DN (elektra and renard are joint lead villains and both actors are great but DN wins this.)
Main Bond Girl: DN (Honey vs Christmas...easy win for Honey)
Henchman: DN (if this was renard he'd win it hands down but I always say that he and Elektra are a dual lead villain combo so this goes to Dent.)
Overall Plot: DN (I like TWINE's ambition even if it far exceeds its reach. This is one of the bond films I often look at and can see the obvious spots to improve the plot to make this push the top half rather than the bottom half of bond films - where it unfortunately rests.)
Dialogue: DN (ice cold Connery and wiseman exchanges)
Score: TWINE (Arnold does some nice work here)
Settings: DN (I find TWINE's locations a little uninspiring)
Action: TWINE (PTS and underground shootout aside TWINE's action is my least favourite of the Brosnan era. But it still has much more than DN's)
Humour: DN (dead pan delivery of M, flirting with Moneypenny, black humour of DN and Bond, even Connery's prowling taunts with Miss Taro)
Cinematography: DN (TWINE has some nice moments but I love the look of early 60s bond. Such care taken with it.)
Benign Bizarre: DN (metal hands, spiders, 3 blind mice, dragons)
Suspense: DN (TWINE has lulls in the narrative, particularly early on. The suspense suffers for chunks of the film. The part when Brosnan impersonates davidoff and the first underground meeting with renard are excellent. But then it clocks off for a large portion before and after that.)
Minor Characters: TWINE (for Robbie coltrane.)
Glamour: DN (the casino sequence in DN is close to my favourite in the series, the one in TWINE is close to the bottom. Says it all for the glamour.)
Bond Performance: DN (Brosnan has his moments in TWINE, he also has some poor ones. I think it's a shame as with another rewrite and some smoothing out of the tone this film could have really stood out from the rest of his era. But then you have Connery in DN which is as close to cool perfection as cinema gets, let alone a Bond film.)
DN: 13
TWINE: 4
DN Is top flight bond and I adore it but I've often returned to TWINE and seen the potential - it really could have been something special. Which I could never say about TND. TND is pure action set pieces and aims for nothing more. Yet because of these self imposed limitations it is more successful. TWINE is frustrating because it has the blueprint of an out of the box bond film - like LTK or OHMSS or QOS - and that appeals to me. But it doesn't have the conviction - it doesn't follow through. If I could rewrite one Bond film it would be TWINE.
Title Credits: TWINE
Main Villain: DN
Main Bond Girl: TWINE
Henchman: DN
Overall Plot: DN
Dialogue: DN
Score: DN
Settings: DN
Action: DN
Humour: DN
Cinematography: DN
Benign Bizarre: DN
Suspense: DN
Minor Characters:DN
Glamour: DN
Bond Performance: DN
DN: 14
TWINE: 3
Title Credits: TWINE
Main Villain: TWINE
Main Bond Girl: DN
Henchman: DN
Overall Plot: DN
Dialogue: DN
Score: DN
Settings: DN
Action: TWINE
Humour: TWINE
Cinematography: DN
Benign Bizarre: DN
Suspense: DN
Minor Characters:TWINE
Glamour: DN
Bond Performance: TWINE
DN: 10
TWINE: 7
Title Track: TND
Title Credits: TND
Main Villain: DN
Main Bond Girl: DN
Henchman: DN
Overall Plot: DN
Dialogue: DN
Score: TND
Settings: DN
Action: TND
Humour: DN
Cinematography: DN
Benign Bizarre: DN
Suspense: DN
Minor Characters: DN
Glamour: DN
Bond Performance: DN
DN: 13
TND: 4
Title Track: TWINE
Title Credits: TWINE
Main Villain: TWINE
Main Bond Girl: DN
Henchman: DN
Overall Plot: DN
Dialogue: DN
Score: TWINE
Settings: DN
Action: TWINE
Humour: TWINE
Cinematography: DN
Benign Bizarre: DN
Suspense: DN
Minor Characters: DN
Glamour: DN
Bond Performance: DN
DN: 11
TWINE: 6
Title Track: TWINE (30-70)
Genuinely good sound for a modern Bond theme tune.
Title Credits: TWINE (25-75)
One of the most provocative sequences.
Main Villain: TWINE (45-55)
There is an infatuation that Elektra draws that lends to the effectiveness of the character.
Main Bond Girl: DN (80-20)
The beauty is there for Christmas, but Honey doesn't pretend to be something she is not and that adds a layer of sophistication.
Henchman: DN (55-45)
I like the general ensemble of henchman in TWINE, but there are too many moving pieces to give them this category.
Overall Plot: DN (70-30)
Another magnificently ambitious plot that goes unfulfilled in the Brosnan era, some elements of which were borrowed and improved upon in SF.
Dialogue: DN (75-25)
This is where the quality of writing took a noticeable hit--only to sink lower in the next.
Score: TWINE (15-85)
David Arnold orchestrates some of the most memorable themes of this era.
Settings: DN (75-25)
Once again not all of the locales get the most bang for their buck.
Action: TWINE (30-70)
I feel like this was close to the height of the franchise as far as gadgets goes, with the boat chase in the PTS and the caviar factory being two memorable action set pieces.
Humor: TWINE (35-65)
While the quality of humor dipped, TWINE is one of the most comfortable and casual films at delivering one-liners.
Cinematography: DN (80-20)
Some elements of TWINE are weak, particularly the ski chase as admitted by Brosnan himself in interview.
Benign Bizarre: DN (60-40)
"I didn't need to. We had an encyclopedia. I started at A when I was eight, and now I've reached T. I bet I know a lot more things than you do."
Suspense: DN (60-40)
TWINE has moments of great suspense, which disappointingly are not followed up throughout the entire picture.
Minor Characters: TWINE (40-60)
Desmond Llewelyn's farewell as Q is profound and contributes some of his best work in the character through his honest fondness of Brosnan's Bond that in unparalleled in my mind relative to the other Bonds.
Glamor: DN (65-35)
TWINE makes a run for it at the casino, but falls short of classic Connery.
Bond Performance: DN (65-35)
While this is not the most detailed performance of Brosnan, this is the culmination of his character development and it is quite enjoyable.
DN (10) (49.7-50.3) (7) TWINE
TWINE was the favorite Bond of my youth and, while it has not aged particularly well, it is still a wonderful escapist entry in the franchise that I endear in the top half of my rankings (most of the time).
@Major_Boothroyd I enjoyed reading your write up!
Title Credits: TWINE
Main Villain: DN
Main Bond Girl: DN
Henchman: DN
Overall Plot: TWINE - I love the idea that Bond is basically used as a murder instrument in this one, as he delivers the bomb that kills King. Very clever!
Dialogue: DN
Score: TWINE - one of Arnold's best (especially the boat chase theme), I don't understand how some people are giving this one to Norman and DN
Settings: DN
Action: TWINE - another one I can't understand some giving this to DN. First of all DN has zero action and secondly the PTS boat chase is amazing!
Humour: DN
Cinematography: DN
Benign Bizarre: DN
Suspense: DN
Minor Characters: TWINE - for Q's farewell alone
Glamour: DN
Bond Performance: DN
DN - 11
TWINE - 6
It isn t about the amount, but the thrill it gives, for me anyway.
There is the fight with the driver, the car chase, the fight with Dr No Not that many, but enough. The boat chase in TWINE absolutely bores me. Most of the film does.
He is also gritting his teeth a lot.
One more screw....... of the steering wheel.
Title Credits: TWINE
Main Villain: DN
Main Bond Girl: DN
Henchman: TWINE (if Renard counts)
Overall Plot: DN
Dialogue: DN (lol)
Score: DN
Settings: DN
Action: n/a
Humour: DN
Cinematography: DN
Benign Bizarre: DN
Suspense: DN
Minor Characters: DN
Glamour: DN
Bond Performance: DN
Dr. No - 13
The World Is Not Enough - 3
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Not a good movie, but if I think about it TWINE's plot isn't half bad for a Bond film, it's in the execution where it really falls flat.
On the action front, DN takes it because there's at least a physical feel and thrill to them. TWINE's action, while choreographically and technologically superior, is uninspired and mostly lifeless. It's a close one, though, because of how bereft DN is of "true" action sequences. So, I opted to not vote.
You mention Bond punching Mr. Jones in DN? You mean when he swings one arm at him but ends up punching him with the other? Lol. Come on now. DN is an extraordinary Bond debut and head and shoulders above TWINE, but I can’t possibly with a straight face say its “action” or “score” is better than TWINE’s.
Thanks @Mansfield ! As I enjoyed reading yours. This is one of my favourite threads - and I find it fascinating and insightful to read through every poster's category breakdowns of these films. You obviously put a bit of thought into yours (like the individual weighting you've employed too.)
Agree about the boat chases in those other two films.
Don t forget the fight with the tarantula! The one on the glass plate.
Ah, yes the iconic fight with the tarantula. And of course the shoe going BAM! BAM! BAM! BAM! BAM! BAM! Hey that entire sequence is iconic indeed but I put that in the suspense column, not the action column. Did Connery need a stunt double or some sort of harness to bang his shoe against the ground?? LOL!
Title Credits: DN
Main Villain: DN
Main Bond Girl: DN
Henchman: TWINE
Overall Plot: DN
Dialogue: DN
Score: TWINE
Settings: DN
Action: TWINE
Humour: TWINE
Cinematography: DN
Benign Bizarre: TWINE
Suspense: TWINE
Minor Characters: DN
Glamour: DN
Bond Performance: DN
Dr. No - 10
The World Is Not Enough - 7
DN is well ahead of TWINE on my rankings, but the match was much closer by the Bond formula numbers.
Title Credits: DN
Main Villain: DN
Main Bond Girl: DN
Henchman: DN
Overall Plot: DN
Dialogue: DN
Score: TWINE
Settings: DN
Action: TWINE
Humour: DN
Cinematography: DN
Benign Bizarre: DN
Suspense: DN
Minor Characters: DN
Glamour: DN
Bond Performance: DN
Dr. No - 15
The World Is Not Enough - 2
Title Track: DN
Title Credits: DAD (actually pretty good)
Main Villain: DN (come, now)
Main Bond Girl: DN (repeat 4x)
Henchman: DN
Overall Plot: DN
Dialogue: DN
Score: DAD
Settings: DN
Action: DAD (there's certainly a lot of it, and some is even good)
Humour: DN
Cinematography: DN (take that, weird slow-mo, zoom-in thing)
Benign Bizarre: DN (DAD is bizarre, but not very benign)
Suspense: DN
Minor Characters: DN
Glamour: DN
Bond Performance: DN (Pierce does his best, but he can't compete.)
DAD scrapes a couple categories, in something of a moral victory, but it still falls by an overwhelming 14-3 margin. Well, let's see if it can manage a win on any of yours.