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News is given.
THIS IS NOT THE NEWS WE WANTED.
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This thread in a nutshell. :D
Everyone has to calm down and relax, and maybe have a vodka martini :)
Are you always this grumpy, or do you just save it for this forum? ;)
You think she will be the main Bond girl in this film as well as in SP ?
Why not? She's a very good actress, the only thing we need is a good story
Bravo, I thought the same thing!
I wasn't meaning it in a bad way,just curious.
Lea has not done much since Spectre - mainly as she had (two?) children since the release of that film. Though, she is said to have a starring role in Wes Anderson's much hyped The French Dispatch.
I don't think Bond even loves Madeleine - he's just using her as a Vesper surrogate. She's the only woman since Vesper who reminds him of her (her name is even a Proustian reference to her) and he gets to save Madeleine in a way that is evocative of his failed attempt to save Vesper in Venice. He's only using her. I'd have thought Madeleine would have seen sense and left him.
Howevere, there are only so many way you use Madeline in a sequel:
1.) Kill her off in the PTS or in flashbacks:
This would inevitably see the film blogosphere and Twitter erupt over how Madeline was 'fridged'. The Bond series already has a rocky relationship with gender politics and this is perhaps not the best PR move. However, it's the approach I like the most. Make her more of a lingering memory and narrative impetus (Much like Tracy's death in YOLT) - but did audiences care about Madeline enough the first time to feel any impact at her death?
2.) She’s the female lead:
Lea already had a crack at being the female lead in Spectre. She gave a great performance and Madeline was effective in the film. Though, she hasn’t really resonated in the years since. She was a little beige compared to some of secondary players in past Bond films. Would Cary want to use her as the lead? I'm doubtful - though, it makes the more sense.
3.) She’s the secondary Bond girl:
Could she play a minor supporting role? Something smaller than the lead, but larger than a quick death scene? Personally, I can’t see this working. You can’t take Madeleine – who was the Bond girl of the last film – and relegate her role for the sequel. Though, they did do that to Naomie Harris (however, that was quite an exceptional case).
Its highly annoying but makes sense. However, due to how they were used in Spectre, everyone is thinking that they're going to be doing the same thing with the same amount of screentime. Obviously, Fiennes, Harris and Wishaw are slightly more household names than Lee, Maxwell and Llewellyn so you don't cast them just for glorified cameos. But it makes sense to have them for continuity purposes. Perhaps we'll see them in a TSWLM\MR type in which we get office scene and a field scene and thats it.
PS or the reason she was so unconvincing in her love for Bond is that she was lying and is somehow a Spectre plant ? ("the author of ALL your pain")
Turns out to be Irma Bunt. I still dont see them all piling into the Mystery Machine and following Bond for 2 hours. At least I hope they learned that from Spectre.
Just for half a second I thought they were announcing Leiter's return…
However, any attempts to redeem the shambles (imho) that was SP will fail with a portion of the fanbase who have written that film off. I can't comment on the general public, but it might work in their case, because they probably don't feel as passionately either way about that film.
I've learned not to doubt you.
Just speaking for myself, there is no fun in referring to them in that manner at all. Just accuracy. I don't call them Scooby Gang though. Rather, I refer to them as Team Scooby, and the sooner all of them are gotten rid of, the better as far as I'm concerned. They are all Mendes creations and none of them hold a candle to Young's or Campbell's recurring characters imho. Moreover, I feel they have been discredited with SP, and they weren't well enough established for that to happen so soon. Another reason why I'd rather not see any of them again.
I would prefer that over Shatterhand
Multi-word titles are much more fun, IMO.
I'm sure they have a great reason to bring Swann back, though I do think it just narrows Bond 25 considerably having her character back.
The obvious would be killing her off and giving Bond the motivation to seek revenge. Maybe if you bring Waltz back as Blofeld, it would bring out a better performance from him. More like Inglorious Bastards kind of sadistic nature about him. Who knows.
Or throw a curve ball completely and make her a villain that Bond has fallen for, after all she is Mr White's daughter. It would make a lot of sense as to why Blofled didn't have her killed or at least tied up while they were at his base, when Bond wakes up in the chair.
Great to see Ben Whishaw back, he's a great Q and has great chemistry with Daniel. Hopefully they bring Jeffrey Wright back, he's my favourite Felix and he has such a brilliant presence on screen.
I'm excited by Bond 25 hopefully they don't spend to long harking back past films and break new ground
Fingers crossed Fukunaga gives us the raw Bond action that was so exciting in Casino Royale with a Daniel at Skyfall level. Don't go over the top with forced puns and gadgets, just give DC a really good send off he deserves as Bond.
It would be great to see Bond 25 end with BOND ALIVE, first and foremost, but for Craig's last words to be , "yes considerably"
I wouldn't mind that. But the outrage would be full if she's riding shotgun in the Mystery Machine. You have to figure for continuity purposes, Madeline is the logical character to bring back. Every other one ended up dead and I'll exclude Camille only because she was only out for revenge. Her chapter closed at the train station. Unless they brought back the Ocean Club Receptionist for a night of good shagging.
+1.
I loved SP and I'm really thrilled about this news. Fukunaga seems like the perfect guy to (kind of) adapt YOLT properly. Fingers crossed. BTW having Madeleine back it's an obvious choice if they're goin to make a direct follow up of SP. She was established like the "perfect" match for Bond in this time of his life, so she's back.
Speaking about the title, I would like to notice that "All the time in the world" were supposed to be the final words in SP script. They probably cut the line because it would have been like dooming Madeleine to a certain end without knowing if they're really goin to make another with Craig etc etc and they preferred to leave everything more open. But I'm pretty sure they discussed about her destiny on SP set. I also remember am interview Mendes did where he talked about his ideas for the follow up, and he spoke about an "older" Bond with YOLT elements...
You've got me thinking when you mentioned dead Bond girls. It's true that Craig Bond's had his share of losses on this front. The only one who survived was the one he didn't sleep with (Camille). So they may be going for some sort of message here.
Given Seydoux is back, I wonder if we will either get a female main bad or a henchwoman in this film to balance things out on the dark side?