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So the slate is clean (both for Bond and the audience - we both have an appetite for new adventures) with the supporting cast in place
BUT, rather than move forward, they move back.
There is no excuse for SP, non.
Good post. You're right, the makers had a clean slate so to speak and delivered a weak regressive script. Yet again putting in a personal angle whilst foolishly trying to tie all the previous films into this ridiculous scenario.
They're so bad. They look so cheap and naf
They've wiped the slate clean with every Craig entry. It's getting a bit tedious
Now, we're introduced to S.P.E.C.T.R.E, an organisation that is way better at their job. With this, they could leave Vesper, Le Chiffre and Mr. White behind, and Silva could be in the independent villain, like Auric Goldfinger was. If they had done this, we could've had S.P.E.C.T.R.E without all the complications.
Exactly right. SP can be filed under, 'seemed like a good idea at the time..'
I think SF served as a great ending to the Craig arc. SP was entirely unnecessary.
And yet, with Seydoux returning, they might be moving back once again.
You lot have no idea how disappointingly upsetting this is to me, just how many fantastic Bond girls we've had who were one and done, and the utterly worst Bond girl (in my opinion) will get two appearances in a row.
But I'm in a wait and see mode. After all Fallout was great with Ethan's wife showing up. Maybe it'll work. Hopefully...
Let's hope Bond doesn't keep saying he's sorry all the time.
Perhaps she'll get blown away in the PTS...
Unfortunately i think you may be right about a soft OHMSS reboot.
Definitely seems like the direction its going.
Harsh. Ha ha ha!
It happened in the books, so I’m ok with it....as long as it’s only a cameo.
I agree, she’s not the best Bond girl by far. But I’m ok with it as long as the appearance is short lived.
Personally, I think Seydoux is gorgeous, but Madeline Swan was such a dull character.
That would be quite the marketing stunt right there, @Birdleson. ;-)
M would be on board with everything till the rug was pulled from under him, the story would be about the idea of M realizing the value of Bond and their relationship could start once things are resolved.
No Oberhauser, ESB would be a mystery kept in the shadows and would only reveal his identity to Bond at the desert base.
Just some ideas, I have the whole film mapped out, free of the personal angle and the brother angle tackled through ESB and White .
Also, the PTS is not got that terrible CGI explosion, Sciarra is arriving to do a hit not blow anything up, the hit is on White which Bond foils trying to assassinate Sciarra, White would be seen in profile and the audience and Bond wouldn't know who it is till the Austria sequence.
Bond would chase Sciarra to the helicopter and then it would pretty much play out as in the film, the main credits would be minus the DC octoporn and I'd replace WOTW with the very first song that was originally commissioned before being rejected by EON due to it having been played live for over a decade, Radiohead's Man of War.
SPECTRE could’ve entered into void left behind by Quantum, or evolved out of the remnants left behind by the Quantum organisation. Oberhauser could’ve been a random SPECTRE agent, but I’d rather have Bond stumble upon SPECTRE by chance instead of tying the previous DC movies into an overarching plot. It really feels like forced and cheap the way they wrote the connections to the other movies. Compare this to CR, which was written so well...
While I did enjoy parts of the movie, it left me with a very bitter aftertaste. The return of SPECRTE should have been so much more intriguing.
I agree entirely. Blofeld's primary value is that of a recurring villain. I simply do not understand the point of introducing and defeating the character in the space of just one film. Look at how the 60s Bond films so skillfully used Spectre and Blofeld as a recurring, mounting threat. A freelance terrorist organization run on corporate principles is just as relevant a threat to today's world as it was in the 60s, especially since box office considerations prevent using the Russians and Chinese as villains. But the film Spectre rushed through material that could have powered several films, because the filmmakers didn't know if Craig would return, so they tried to both wrap up the continuity of the previous films and introduce (and defeat) Spectre and Blofeld. The attempt to unify those aims was shoddy and probably not worth doing in the first place.
SPECTRE would have been for me resolving Haines involvement from QOS and Silva wouldn't be SPECTRE, he would be a useful thug that ESB used to attempt to get rid of Dench's M and ESB would reveal it to Bond at the end to press his buttons.
I would link Haines to Denbigh, if you wanted to tie them together there is so much within the mythology of the DC era that P&W could have used rather than that daft ring DNA nonsense and making ESB Bonds nemesis from as far back as his childhood.
I’m another real SP lover. I also find it one of the most rewatchable in the whole saga. Having said that I would’ve change a couple things.
- Delete the Mickey Mouse bit;
- Use a real Roman palace and not a British one;
- Better establish why Blofeld was so envy towards Bond;
- Delete the printed faces of the figures of Bond’s past hanged on the MI6’s building walls;
- I would’ve put another dialogue on the helicopter or after sex on the train for better establish Mads decision to leave Bond once he showed no interest to “stop”;
- The CGI background on the helicopter fight could be better;
- The Rome chase could’ve been more adrenalinic;
- I would’ve put the mountains on the background in the clinic more on display, since they’re almost hidden;
- They choose the worst possible angle for Rome’s panoramic shot in the beginning. They also should’ve wait for a sunny day, Jesus...