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Shoulda kept the Lotus.
One film was enough for the Lotus. As with the DB5.
I loved it how they destroyed the Lotus and left 007 with no other choice than this Citroen to be chased by cars that are faster. It was a nice little nod towards supercars in a car chase and how the previous movie was out there in space and this time back to basics even in cars.
I think the script was in such a mess, this film would not have suited any Bond. There were very real issues with it, and one of the biggest misses of this franchise (I know, wrong thread), is they didn't pull the plug, scrap the shooting date and start from scratch-- easier said then done, however...
Yes... but, I also liked his flat in this and says a lot about his character... The set-dressers on this film were wonderful.
She is stunning, though.
Being refined is not only knowing which product is the best, it is also the kind of manners that you display. In CR alone Bond behaves like so many nouveaux riches.
He speaks with his mouth full of food, he talks down to a waiter in front of a whole table, he holds his glass of wine as it were a pint, etc.
When you don’t know how to behave like a gentleman you come across as someone who has no taste at all and who just goes for anything that is wildly expensive. For such people are under the impression expensive equals stylish.
Putting a brute in a smoking does not suddenly turn him into a gentleman. A brute in a smoking is still a brute in a smoking.
To my mind Craig Bond specifically is no brute, even with those items called out.
He pours a bottle of wine correctly; the "he talks down to a waiter in front of a whole table"-- that was James Bond doing what James Bond is supposed to do: knock the bad guy off balance and distract; this is not being a riff-raff thug (and Felix joins in on the fun)...
He doesn't hold a wine glass like a pint; not by the stem either, but under the bulb of the glass-- which is where many wine tasters hold their glass as well...
As far as speaking with his mouth full... My opinion only: this is a man that survived death, is ravished by hunger, adrenalin and is impressing Vesper-- believe me, my Mum taught mouth shut too, but in 007's context, I gave him a pass...
Craig is a classy one with edge.
He's also *becoming* Bond in CR.
I never bought Bond as an owner of a Scottish mansion. Seems like another Mendes misstep to me.
MR was the film that led me to becoming the Bond fan I am today. FYEO is like a collection of stunts and I think another critic mentioned Moore being an occasional stand-in for the stunt man. The whole chase for the ATAC gets lost amongst it.
Now for a controversial opinion, the Fleming parts are underwhelming. The whole Kristatos vs. Colombo thing wasn't that compelling. I don't know if it was Glen's direction or Maibaum and Wilson's script, but this doesn't come across well. I thought Topol was great in the role, but Kristatos as bad guy big reveal was so anti-climactic it was laughable, what with Ferrara saying things like "very reliable" being over-the-top.
The keelhauling scene also never really got me as interesting or particularly suspenseful. All the Greek scenes under and around the water seemed to just drag.
And although there's nothing like a John Barry score, I always have liked Conti's score for FYEO, one of the few highlights of the film for me. It just seemed fresh then and still does. Whereas I can easily tune out when composers like Newman and Arnold are playing on car trips, the FYEO score doesn't get dull.
Exactly and he was the same in Flemings books. Sean Connery played Bond this way too. Yes Roger Moore was more of gentleman, but he was playing himself or his version of Bond rather than Flemings character. Fleming even referred to Bond as a Scottish peasant in TMWTGG!
I agree with some of the above posters, in that I like Moonraker. They couldn't keep making films like that, though. It took everything that was wonderful about the TSWLM and took it that extra notch (which was too far) into Sci-fi territory.
It’s better than more than that amount!!
You are probably right
It might be a detail but I’m sure Terence Young would have told Craig a connaisseur holds his wine glass at the stem.
I also never quite understood what the advantage was of annoying Le Chiffre at the cost of that waiter. Couldn’t appreciate his act with Vesper at the bar either. It’s so arrogant and bad-mannered.
I just don’t see Fleming’s Bond doing these things.
In my book, at least five (with TMWTGG barely scraping by it): DAF, OP, AVTAK, TWINE, DAD.
A shame because Sir Roger is in a seriously dangerous mood in it.
For white wine especially, its advisable because it means you avoid warming the liquid with your hand. Not so important for red wine. Holding by the stem is more the done thing and more acceptable.
But Craig's Bond isn't quite the social snob that earlier Bonds were. He isn't even moved or bothered by the famous painting he sees in the National (can't recall the title). Unless he's just winding Q up deliberately.
Having said that, Dalton's Bond was a bit of an off the peg dresser. He didn't bother about expensive clothes, and was never particularly well groomed. I'm sure that was a conscious effort on his part to reflect how an agent would look in the field on his salary.
So, although Dalton/Bond was intelligent and knew a good martini from a bad one, he wasn't the expensively kitted out know it all of earlier incarnations.
So, different actors have interpreted Bond in different ways.
I have always liked Bond as the clever clogs who knows his butterflies and poisonous fish, but that time has probably passed.
http://www.007museum.com/bollinger_glass_craig.jpg
http://www.007museum.com/bollinger_glass_craig_vesper.jpg
https://bamfstyle.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/qosit-wine1.jpg
But Craig's Bond does hold a wine glass at the stem??? See various links above?
But Bond was under massive pressure at the Poker table in Casino Royale, no need for airs and graces? Indeed he snaps a chair in the novel. And I quote Fleming “A dry martini,’ he said. ‘One. In a deep champagne goblet.’ ‘Oui, monsieur.’ ‘Just a moment. Three measures of Gordon’s, one of vodka, half a measure of Kina Lillet". No pretty please there???
Fleming's Bond was very arrogant and sexist in some ways? Have you read the novels? I quote......“Women were for recreation. On a job, they got in the way and fogged things up with sex and hurt feelings and all the emotional baggage they carried around. One had to look out for them and take care of them.” Mmmm?
Further examples of Fleming's very Un-PC Bond......http://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com/2015/11/10-offensive-quotes-from-ian-flemings.html
Fleming's Bond WAS arrogant and bad-mannered, indeed many timers throughout the novels?
Am I a social snob now?
I was responding to the incorrect comment that "Fleming’s Bond wouldn't do such things"??
Fleming's Bond WAS arrogant and bad-mannered, indeed many timers throughout the novels?
Facts - Craig's Bond does hold a wine glass at the stem/ Fleming's Bond was rude to waiters/ Fleming's Bond was very arrogant and sexist in some ways regardless of when the novel was written. Fleming's Bond could be at brute a times.
More so than me, no doubt ;)
https://www.google.be/amp/s/winefolly.com/tutorial/hold-wine-glass-civilized/
Compare that to the train scene.
But nevermind, just a detail that is important to me. I don’t mean to upset you. Let’s just agree to disagree on Craig’s Bond ;)
I still think he’s fine actor btw, just not quite my favourite 007 :)
No problem at all, your entitled to your views and indeed that’s the whole point of this site.