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  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,118
    Title Track: DN
    Title Credits: DN
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: DN
    Henchmen: DN
    Overall Plot: DN
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: QOS
    Settings: QOS
    Action: QOS
    Humour: DN
    Cinematography: DN
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: DN
    Minor Characters: DN
    Glamour: DN
    Bond Performance: DN

    DN wins 14-3
  • Crazysoul95Crazysoul95
    edited January 2019 Posts: 3,336
    Title Track: DN
    Title Credits: DN
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: DN
    Henchmen: DN
    Overall Plot: DN
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: QOS
    Settings: DN
    Action: DN
    Humour: DN
    Cinematography: QOS
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: DN
    Minor Characters: DN
    Glamour: DN
    Bond Performance: DN

    QOS - 2
    DN - 15
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited January 2019 Posts: 15,423
    Title Track: DN
    Title Credits: QoS
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: DN
    Henchmen: DN
    Overall Plot: DN
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: QoS
    Settings: DN
    Action: DN
    Humour: DN
    Cinematography: DN
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: DN
    Minor Characters: DN
    Glamour: DN
    Bond Performance: DN

    QoS - 2
    DN - 15
  • BondAficionadoBondAficionado Former IMDBer
    Posts: 1,889
    What happens to this thread once we're done with DN? Start again, but with FRWL (as the base) vs GF?
  • barryt007barryt007
    edited January 2019 Posts: 19,339
    That's how I think they are planning to continue,FRWL vs the field.
  • ChrisMC36SSRChrisMC36SSR
    edited January 2019 Posts: 133
    Title Track: DN
    Title Credits: QOS
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: DN
    Henchmen: DN
    Overall Plot: DN
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: QOS
    Settings: DN
    Action: QOS
    Humour: DN
    Cinematography: QOS
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: DN
    Minor Characters: DN
    Glamour: DN
    Bond Performance: DN

    DN: 13
    QOS: 4
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
    Posts: 7,653
    Title Track: DN
    Title Credits: DN
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: DN
    Henchmen: DN
    Overall Plot: DN
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: DN
    Settings: DN
    Action: QOS
    Humour: DN
    Cinematography: DN
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: DN
    Minor Characters: DN
    Glamour: DN
    Bond Performance: DN

    DN - 16
    QOS - 1
  • SoundofthesinnersSoundofthesinners
    Posts: 3,236
    Any final entries, in our penultimate round of the tournament?
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
    Posts: 2,722
    Soundofthesinners wrote: »
    Any final entries, in our penultimate round of the tournament?

    Let the Skyyyyyyyyyfaaaaaaaalllllll
  • SoundofthesinnersSoundofthesinners
    Posts: 3,236
    We're almost there, folks. Dr. No was able to bounce back this time, winning by the stunning margin of 225-84, and taking the games by the equally stunning margin of 14-4. But as it hits the home stretch, it has one last mountain to climb, in the form of 2012's Skyfall. Which of these two semi-origin stories will end up on top?

    Title Track: SF
    Title Credits: SF
    Main Villain: SF (Silva just edges it out, as great as the eponymous Dr. No is)
    Main Bond Girl: DN (sort of by default)
    Henchmen: DN (again, sort of by default)
    Overall Plot: DN (sort of...by default? I joke because I care.)
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: SF
    Settings: DN (SF has some nice ones, but Jamaica is just so lovely)
    Action: SF (neither has a ton, but the opening and ending are strong enough to carry it)
    Humour: SF
    Cinematography: SF (I mean, duh.)
    Benign Bizarre: SF (Silva himself finds a way to push it over the edge)
    Suspense: SF
    Minor Characters: DN
    Glamour: DN (SF is beautiful at points, but I wouldn't say particularly glamorous)
    Bond Performance: SF (see villain: tough to go against the original, but...)

    And after it's all said and done, SF edges it out, 10-7. It's a fitting result, since it sits just one spot above DN on my Bond rankings (6 and 7, respectively). Can Skyfall hold on to it's slight lead, or will Dr. No rally? There's only one way to find out...
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489

    Title Track: DN
    Title Credits: DN
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: DN
    Henchmen: DN
    Overall Plot: DN
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: SF
    Settings: DN
    Action: SF
    Humour: SF
    Cinematography: SF
    Benign Bizarre: SF
    Suspense: SF
    Minor Characters: DN
    Glamour: SF
    Bond Performance: DN

    DN beats SF 10-7
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,480
    I love Dr. No a whole lot. And it's one of my fave novels, too.
    But Skyfall is just superior, for me, in nearly every category.

    Title Track: SF
    Title Credits: SF
    Main Villain: SF
    Main Bond Girl: DN (for sure)
    Henchmen: DN
    Overall Plot: DN
    Dialogue: DN (close call for me)
    Score: SF
    Settings: SF
    Action: SF
    Humour: SF (not a strong point for either film)
    Cinematography: SF (a lock)
    Benign Bizarre: SF
    Suspense: SF
    Minor Characters: DN
    Glamour: DN (maybe a draw for me)
    Bond Performance: SF
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
    Posts: 755

    Title Track: DN
    Title Credits: DN
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: DN
    Henchmen: DN
    Overall Plot: DN
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: SF
    Settings: DN
    Action: SF
    Humour: DN
    Cinematography: SF
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: SF
    Minor Characters: DN
    Glamour: DN
    Bond Performance: DN

    DN beats SF 13-4

  • ringfire211ringfire211
    Posts: 654
    I like DN’s dots in the credits sequence but you just gotta go with SF’s sequence. One of the best in the entire series and the best since GE!
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
    Posts: 755
    No, I think CR titles bury SF. SF’s are good, some striking visuals, just don’t get excited when I see them.
  • ringfire211ringfire211
    Posts: 654
    DoctorNo wrote: »
    No, I think CR titles bury SF. SF’s are good, some striking visuals, just don’t get excited when I see them.
    I’m the opposite. I find the CR titles, while good, a bit overrated. SF is a work of art though. Very striking and rich!
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia
    Posts: 3,369
    Title Track: SF
    Title Credits: SF
    Main Villain: SF
    Main Bond Girl: DN
    Henchmen: DN
    Overall Plot: SF
    Dialogue: SF
    Score: SF
    Settings: SF
    Action: SF
    Humour: SF
    Cinematography: SF
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: SF
    Minor Characters: DN
    Glamour: SF
    Bond Performance: SF

    SF wins 13-4
  • barryt007barryt007
    edited February 2019 Posts: 19,339
    Title Track: SF
    Title Credits: SF
    Main Villain: SF
    Main Bond Girl: SF (Severine)
    Henchmen: DN
    Overall Plot: SF
    Dialogue: SF
    Score: SF
    Settings: SF
    Action: SF
    Humour: SF
    Cinematography: SF
    Benign Bizarre: SF
    Suspense: SF
    Minor Characters: DN
    Glamour: SF
    Bond Performance: DN

    DN : 3
    SF: 14

  • vzokvzok
    Posts: 4,044

    Title Track: SF
    Title Credits: SF
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: DN
    Henchmen: SF
    Overall Plot: DN
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: DN
    Settings: DN
    Action: SF
    Humour: DN
    Cinematography: SF
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: SF
    Minor Characters: DN
    Glamour: DN
    Bond Performance: DN

    DN: 11
    SF: 6
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    Posts: 7,021
    You know, just out of curiosity, I've worked out a few statistics of my own. Considering you've already done Spectre vs. the field and ignoring Dr. No vs. the field as it's about to finish, if you were to do every remaining Bond film vs. the field, the number of remaining matches would be:

    21 + 20 + 19 + ... + 1

    By the formula of the nth partial sum of the infinite natural number series, with n=21, that equals 21x22/2 = 231 matches

    If you take a month with each match, you'll take 231 months to go through all the matches. 231 months are 19 years and 4 months.

    Not trying to be a wise guy here, just got curious about this.

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  • vzokvzok
    Posts: 4,044
    ........or 4 Bond films
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia
    Posts: 3,369
    mattjoes wrote: »
    You know, just out of curiosity, I've worked out a few statistics of my own. Considering you've already done Spectre vs. the field and ignoring Dr. No vs. the field as it's about to finish, if you were to do every remaining Bond film vs. the field, the number of remaining matches would be:

    21 + 20 + 19 + ... + 1

    By the formula of the nth partial sum of the infinite natural number series, with n=21, that equals 21x22/2 = 231 matches

    If you take a month with each match, you'll take 231 months to go through all the matches. 231 months are 19 years and 4 months.

    Not trying to be a wise guy here, just got curious about this.

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    It checks out! I have an Excel file that I do a yearly Bond Movie A vs. Bond Movie B. That way I can isolate the two films and compare which one I prefer. And in the end my fav film has 23 wins, while the last film in my rankings can't amass a single win.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    Posts: 2,252
    MooseWithFleas wrote: »
    It checks out! I have an Excel file that I do a yearly Bond Movie A vs. Bond Movie B. That way I can isolate the two films and compare which one I prefer. And in the end my fav film has 23 wins, while the last film in my rankings can't amass a single win.

    That's exactly how I do my rankings! I have some ties however, and while it's usually "YES/NO" this film is better, I have a "UNDECIDED" option

  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia
    Posts: 3,369
    Ah good stuff. I try to avoid doing ties, but it's getting harder as the years go by as I love them all so much and it's getting harder to choose between them!
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    Title Track: DN
    Title Credits: DN
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: DN
    Henchmen: DN
    Overall Plot: DN
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: SF
    Settings: DN
    Action: SF
    Humour: SF
    Cinematography: SF
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: DN
    Minor Characters: DN
    Glamour: DN
    Bond Performance: DN

    DN beats SF 13-4
  • BondAficionadoBondAficionado Former IMDBer
    Posts: 1,889
    Title Track: SF
    Title Credits: SF
    Main Villain: SF
    Main Bond Girl: SF (Sévérine)
    Henchmen: SF
    Overall Plot: SF
    Dialogue: SF
    Score: SF
    Settings: DN
    Action: SF
    Humour: SF
    Cinematography: SF (The very best)
    Benign Bizarre: SF
    Suspense: SF
    Minor Characters: SF
    Glamour: DN
    Bond Performance: DN

    DN: 3
    SF: 14
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,968
    Title Track: SF
    Title Credits: DN
    Main Villain: DN
    Main Bond Girl: DN
    Henchmen: DN (I'll take the Three Blind Mice and Dent over Patrice any day)
    Overall Plot: DN
    Dialogue: DN
    Score: DN (I really, really don't care for Newman)
    Settings: SF (I'd pick DN because they utilize Jamaica so well, but SF does have some gorgeous locations, all helped by Deakins' DP work)
    Action: DN
    Humour: DN
    Cinematography: SF (SF is the best in the series for me, though sometimes I'm forced to pick OHMSS over it)
    Benign Bizarre: DN
    Suspense: DN
    Minor Characters: DN (By a mile)
    Glamour: DN
    Bond Performance: DN

    DN: 14
    SF: 3

    DN wins.
  • vzokvzok
    Posts: 4,044
    This match is bringing the biggest difference of opinion so far.
  • ringfire211ringfire211
    edited February 2019 Posts: 654
    I don’t understand SF winning the humor category. No Craig film can top a Connery film in that category. The gallows humor of the Connery area is untouchable! Craig’s films are the most dour and humorless of them all.
  • dramaticscenesofQOSdramaticscenesofQOS
    Posts: 1,282
    SF wishes it was DN!

    It brought in that obscure jackassed reference with the painting when introducing Saverine.

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