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I think it's the whole thing of chasing a helicopter in a boat!! Just daft. I really like SP, but agree that the final section when they return to England was very badly thought out and handled!
Wait...what were those films again? Oh, and too bad Pierce only got to do 3 Bond films. What a shame.
Seriously, the only scene I like in DUD is when Brozza arrives in Cuba. And the subsequent minutes until Halle turns up.
Ah, good one. Actually that was one of the good scenes, in Cuba right?
•Tamahori's energetic direction, the colorful cinematography, and Arnold's score.
•I actually love the gunbarrel.
•The PTS is awesome. Great music, action, and cinematography. I love the grey filter that's used.
•The title sequence is really cool. Madonna's theme isn't the most appropriate but it's catchy as hell.
•Bond is tortured for over a year and looks like absolute sh*t. However, he quickly moves and isn't psychological scarred. After the melodrama of SF, this is really refreshing.
•The Hong Kong hotel scene.
•The Cuba scenes apart from a few of Jinx's lines and her dive off the cliff.
•Gustav Graves, Miranda Frost, and Zao.
•The London scenes. Blades is fun, I like the abandoned station, and the VR scene is cool.
•The invisible car is indeed ridiculous but I love it.
•The setting in Iceland and the ice palace itself.
•The fake mine.
•The return of the laser watch.
•The scene where Bond confronts Graves and is betrayed by Frost.
•The car chase.
•The switchblade jet gliders.
•Most of the fight between Jinx and Frost.
•Graves' and Frost's deaths.
•The remix of the theme song at the end.
This is all more than I can say of SP. The only things that really hold DAD back for me are some lines of dialogue, the slow mo shots, the CGI, the ice dragster/CGI wave scene, and some parts of the finale.
Good point about the gadgets. The ice palace/diamond mine has a real Ken Adam vibe which I love.
•The gunbarrel being back at the beginning. It's still not done totally right though.
•Most of the PTS. It's actually a little tedious after the first few viewings though.
•The Q scene.
•The Rome scenes with the exception of the car chase.
•Madeleine in bed wearing a nightie.
•The train fight.
•Bond looking out the window of his room in the crater base. It reminds me of OHMSS.
•The meteorite scene and the computer room scene despite the godawful dialogue about Bond's women.
•The scene between Bond and Blofeld through the glass. Also, I love how the scar looks.
•The DB5 ending.
Yeah I'd pick DAD any day.
I was honestly never bothered by the windsurfing, and quite suprised when I found out how much of a bad rep it gets.
I think it has a lot to do with the EA games. Seeing CGI-Brosnan was as common to me as seeing the real one at that time.
Same goes for the whole sequence really. The games had gotten way more ridiculous by that time.
Having a bad CGI? That's a different story.
I like it too. I don't love it, but I like it. Shows Bond being resourceful.
Still, love the scene though, especially with Pierce hanging on the cliff edge.
I could understand if this were TND vs. Spectre as TND is a super fast-paced 90s action movie fun enough to enjoy but is smart enough to restrain itself from dipping it's feet into the back-bending cartoon absurdity that is the second half of DAD. Spectre had it's problems, sure. But never did it once make me cringe or struggle to justify my Bond fandom to non fans. For instance, I was at my cousin's house about 5 years ago for Thanksgiving. We decided to retreat to the parlor for a while for drinks and DAD was on TV as it was the Thanksgiving Bondathon. It got ridiculed by my family as a few of them looked to me, knowing of my affinity for James Bond, and I honestly couldn't defend it. All I could say was that it was a low point for the series and that the movies are better now. I just couldn't imagine the same situation happening if Spectre was on TV.
And BTW these are some of the same family members that I watched TSWLM with as a kid and they all enjoyed it.
I think the renewed/newfound interest in DAD is down to the fans waiting so long for B25, that they've grown tired of Craig's era - coupled with the fact that this realistic take we've come to know will inevitability go out of fashion, for something more lighthearted and fantastic. Once again, we come full circle, history repeating and such.
No mod edit CGI sequence, no incongruity, no pedestrian acting, no waste of time with so-called "tribute" to former Bond movies, no silly scene like a Tarzan yell, no Marc Forster nonsense, no lead actor being coached, trained or taught by the Bond girl how to act and I could go on an on and yet, many "fans" here takes pleasure to discredit an awesome Bond movie.
It comes down to the point where I question if some members here posting are really Bond fans. Want to blubber about a truly mediocre film, try Megalodon or any Pirates of the Caribbean.
Were they really? Did they state this?
+1
@JohnBarryFan, what is the definition of a Bondfan as they come in many guises of movie, books or comics. There are fans that love the various faces of 007 and some others less. Every Bond-movie, book has gotten his fair share of criticism and some more than others. That is the face of a decent 007 forum if you cannot take any criticism perhaps you are better of talking to a mirror.
Anybody on this forum is a Bondfan it is the ones that criticize their fellow fans for being a fan that I have my doubts about really. ;)
+2. Plus, defending SP while knocking "real Bond fans" by putting down aspects of countless other installments in the series seems a bit hypocritical and disingenuous. It's all subjective, there's no defining what makes a "real fan."
I love some more than others.
Though some fans are definitely not real. Right, Mr. Crumples?
Mr. Crumples?
Plot twist: You were Mr. Crumples the entire time.