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  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Brosnan as Bond had a whole range of facial expressions all the way from the Paddy Ashdown squint to the now infamous PainFace.
  • bondywondybondywondy Uk
    edited April 2023 Posts: 339
    GQ magazine on Amazon Prime Video spy show Citadel:
    If Citadel is Richard Madden's Bond audition, he's not getting the job
    Madden is compelling in Citadel, slightly dodgy American accent aside (which, of course, wouldn't be an issue if he ever was to don the famous suit), and honestly, his performance isn't such a disaster that a Bond offering, even now, would feel past its zeitgeist due date. But this isn't gonna be the thing that lands him the big job at MI6.

    https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/citadel-richard-madden-james-bond/amp





  • MalloryMallory
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    I watched the first two episodes of Citdel. It was fine. Big budget, glossy, but a mishmash of almost everything else (Bond, MI, and especially Bourne and Kingsman). It doesnt have an original bone in its body.

    Madden is not great, but I dont rate him in anything I have seen him in. Whoever is Bond 7 will have the benefit of the doubt until I have seen their performance, but as GQ say, it isnt on display here.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited April 2023 Posts: 3,787
    Poor Madden, it's already two in a row - Eternals and Citadel.

    The guy is finding it hard to recover these days.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-reviews/citadel-review-300-million-disaster-amazon-richard-madden-priyanka-chopra-jones-russo-brothers-1234720581/amp/

    Here's the excerpt from the article:

    There is so much presumption involved here than even a transcendent television show could likely justify. And unfortunately, Citadel falls far, far short of transcendence, or even goodness. It is bland, generic, and almost shockingly cheap-looking, given the price tag. There are some minor charms, including the chance to watch stars Priyanka Chopra Jonas and Richard Madden look glamorous together, as well as the usual reliability of supporting players Stanley Tucci and Lesley Manville, so it’s not all bad. But it’s staggering to look at the finished product and understand why Amazon thought that this would be the start of an exponentially lucrative collection of projects.

    As for the leads? Chopra Jonas and Madden are serviceable, but neither pops off the screen in the way they have in other roles. Like most of Citadel, they’re not terrible, but nor are they doing anything worth getting excited about.

    This unfortunately makes two franchise — or, in this case, would-be franchise — duds in a row for Madden. He’s coming off of Eternals — a.k.a. the movie Marvel would prefer we never talk about again. Eternals was pretty presumptuous in its own way, gambling that the MCU could launch a new 10-person team, based on a group of characters who have never been commercially successful in print (and have only occasionally been creatively successful there). And at least that was coming after 25 other movies that had all been hits of varying degrees, all of them clearly linked to one another. Citadel is hoping to skip straight to that kind of esteemed, ubiquitous status. Even if the first show was great, there’s no guarantee that audiences would automatically want more. But when the finished product is this forgettable? That’s a problem Amazon might need multiple Infinity Stones to fix.

    I haven't watched the show in its full yet, only some clips and scenes, but yes, I agree that Madden's accent isn't that great 😅
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    A spy story where the main character's lost his memory...?
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    Venutius wrote: »
    A spy story where the main character's lost his memory...?

    Sounds like Bourne 😅
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited May 2023 Posts: 3,147
    Indeed. And the end of YOLT/beginning of TMWTGG. Isn't Cavill going to play a spy with amnesia in his new tv series too? I dunno, you wait ages for a bus and then...
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    Venutius wrote: »
    Indeed. And the end of YOLT/beginning of TMWTGG. Isn't Cavill going to play a spy with amnesia in his new tv series too? I dunno, you wait ages for a bus and then...

    I don't know why these shows have the same plots? 😅

    Crossing my fingers that the next Bond wouldn't have any kinds of amnesia 😅, it's been overused these days.

    It's funny because if there's a strange (and different) concept and other filmmakers discover it, they're going to copy it, and the other one will do the same, until it's going to get passed from one to another 😅, like these what these shows are doing now.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T.
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    There was another spy show where the lead had amnesia. I don't remember the name at the moment.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited May 2023 Posts: 3,787
    mattjoes wrote: »
    There was another spy show where the lead had amnesia. I don't remember the name at the moment.

    My God! Are there no creative ideas left for these filmmakers these days? They tend to copy each other.

    I'll be happy if there's one spy show that tries to be different.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    There was another spy show where the lead had amnesia. I don't remember the name at the moment.

    Brilliant stuff. :))
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    I think my issue with Madden is that even in the roles and TV series I liked him in, I never found anything outstanding about him. I thought he acted well as the Bodyguard (whatever his name was) and Robb Stark, but not to the point when I couldn't imagine anyone else in the roles or when I'd say he added something to the characters that truly was his own.

    That said it is a criticism I have with many and maybe almost all young and youngish actors nowadays: I don't find many that really stand out.
  • Scaramanga1974Scaramanga1974
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    Daniel Day Lewis is one of the rare actors who would have made either a brilliant Bond, M or villain.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited May 2023 Posts: 3,147
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I think my issue with Madden is that even in the roles and TV series I liked him in, I never found anything outstanding about him.
    Yes. Someone else described him as 'serviceable' - which he is; but Bond needs to be a lot more than that.

  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Scaramanga1974 wrote: »
    Daniel Day Lewis is one of the rare actors who would have made either a brilliant Bond, M or villain.

    I think a younger Ralph Fiennes qualified as well.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrjbQVnoWAW/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=897aef69-ffdb-40e7-8510-79b3813f8e31

    I'm sure they're joking. However, I be ok with Richard Madden as James Bond and Stanley Tucci as M/Villain. I'd be ok with Ralph Fiennes coming back as M as Sir Miles. With Aaron Taylor Johnson as Q.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Scaramanga1974 wrote: »
    Daniel Day Lewis is one of the rare actors who would have made either a brilliant Bond, M or villain.

    I think a younger Ralph Fiennes qualified as well.

    I remember reading in the back page of a TV magazine around 2001 that Ralph Fiennes wanted to play James Bond after harbouring an obsession with the character since childhood. I think he'd have made a great Bond and I was overjoyed when he got the role of M instead. I personally hope he gets to stay on in the role.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Scaramanga1974 wrote: »
    Daniel Day Lewis is one of the rare actors who would have made either a brilliant Bond, M or villain.

    I think a younger Ralph Fiennes qualified as well.

    I remember reading in the back page of a TV magazine around 2001 that Ralph Fiennes wanted to play James Bond after harbouring an obsession with the character since childhood. I think he'd have made a great Bond and I was overjoyed when he got the role of M instead. I personally hope he gets to stay on in the role.

    Me too. If Judi Dench got to come back in a reboot, Ralph Fiennes should be allowed to come back as well. Every film has a recurring cast member.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited May 2023 Posts: 3,147
    Yeah, I can still see the appeal of pulling the same trick twice and casting Ralph Fiennes as Sir Miles Messervy. Without any explanation, not even a knowing aside. Ok, it's a bit too 'post-' to actually happen after they did it with Dench, but Fiennes as M was perfect casting - I'm really not sure they could find a better fit. Samuel West would still probably be the best alternative for me but, as others have said, he could be a bit too close to Fiennes' portrayal and they might want to change it up with a new Bond.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited May 2023 Posts: 3,787
    Venutius wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I think my issue with Madden is that even in the roles and TV series I liked him in, I never found anything outstanding about him.
    Yes. Someone else described him as 'serviceable' - which he is; but Bond need to be a lot more than that.

    Indeed for me, Idk, he's just as generic as Cavill to me.

    I felt the guy was sometimes playing himself, his performance in Citadel as Mason wasn't that far off from how he played Ikaris from Eternals, It's hard to tell the difference, aside maybe from the accent (as he have an American accent in Citadel, but it's badly played 😅), but other than that, all I see was Madden himself, Idk, I felt like he's just playing himself.

    For me, he's just this typical macho, gentleman, tough guy with no personality (exactly the word), he's even lacking in the charming department.

    He just have no personality, those characters that I've mentioned are the proofs of that, it's just blank, and it's just Madden playing himself with a different names.

    Bond is a lot more than the characters that he'd played, Bond is a complex character with lots of different angles and sides, and I think Bond is more than that Madden could chew.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Venutius wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I think my issue with Madden is that even in the roles and TV series I liked him in, I never found anything outstanding about him.
    Yes. Someone else described him as 'serviceable' - which he is; but Bond needs to be a lot more than that.

    My favourite role of his was as Robb Stark. This is where I noticed him as wondered if he could play Bond down the line. Then I asked myself: "Could I imagine anybody else playing Robb Stark?" And, well, yes, I could. Not better than him, but just as well.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited May 2023 Posts: 3,147
    Yes, I know what you mean. It's not that Madden's bad - he isn't. He's solid, capable, dependable - but it's not enough. There needs to be that extra quality, that special flare about Bond.
  • CrabKeyCrabKey
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    Checked out of Citadel after the train crash. Utra cool agents spouting clever dialogue, fight on train, agent falling into river. Seen it all before, but done better. These extended over top fight scenes have become a requirement of thrillers and they are so boring. Right after, I watched the PTS of Goldfinger. Connery's fight with the guy he throws into the bathtub is so understated by comparison. And yet manages to be far more believable.

    It's going to take more than a new face to move this series forward. Any decent actor can wear the tux and play the role of Bond, which is not the same as owning the role.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I saw a trailer for Citadel attached to Evil Dead Rise and thought the whole thing looked incredibly cheap and hollow to me.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Scaramanga1974 wrote: »
    Daniel Day Lewis is one of the rare actors who would have made either a brilliant Bond, M or villain.

    I think a younger Ralph Fiennes qualified as well.

    I remember reading in the back page of a TV magazine around 2001 that Ralph Fiennes wanted to play James Bond after harbouring an obsession with the character since childhood. I think he'd have made a great Bond and I was overjoyed when he got the role of M instead. I personally hope he gets to stay on in the role.

    Me too. If Judi Dench got to come back in a reboot, Ralph Fiennes should be allowed to come back as well. Every film has a recurring cast member.
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Scaramanga1974 wrote: »
    Daniel Day Lewis is one of the rare actors who would have made either a brilliant Bond, M or villain.

    I think a younger Ralph Fiennes qualified as well.

    I remember reading in the back page of a TV magazine around 2001 that Ralph Fiennes wanted to play James Bond after harbouring an obsession with the character since childhood. I think he'd have made a great Bond and I was overjoyed when he got the role of M instead. I personally hope he gets to stay on in the role.

    Me too. If Judi Dench got to come back in a reboot, Ralph Fiennes should be allowed to come back as well. Every film has a recurring cast member.

    Seconded. I'd love to see Fiennes back as M. (Same for Harris and Wishaw.)
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T.
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Scaramanga1974 wrote: »
    Daniel Day Lewis is one of the rare actors who would have made either a brilliant Bond, M or villain.

    I think a younger Ralph Fiennes qualified as well.

    I remember reading in the back page of a TV magazine around 2001 that Ralph Fiennes wanted to play James Bond after harbouring an obsession with the character since childhood. I think he'd have made a great Bond and I was overjoyed when he got the role of M instead. I personally hope he gets to stay on in the role.

    Me too. If Judi Dench got to come back in a reboot, Ralph Fiennes should be allowed to come back as well. Every film has a recurring cast member.
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Scaramanga1974 wrote: »
    Daniel Day Lewis is one of the rare actors who would have made either a brilliant Bond, M or villain.

    I think a younger Ralph Fiennes qualified as well.

    I remember reading in the back page of a TV magazine around 2001 that Ralph Fiennes wanted to play James Bond after harbouring an obsession with the character since childhood. I think he'd have made a great Bond and I was overjoyed when he got the role of M instead. I personally hope he gets to stay on in the role.

    Me too. If Judi Dench got to come back in a reboot, Ralph Fiennes should be allowed to come back as well. Every film has a recurring cast member.

    Seconded. I'd love to see Fiennes back as M. (Same for Harris and Wishaw.)

    Yeah, you can quote that again.
  • CrabKeyCrabKey
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    Craig's supporting cast was great, but to recast any of them in the next film undercuts the idea of Bond's death makes a clean break with the past. Talk about a confusing timeline.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    Craig's supporting cast was great, but to recast any of them in the next film undercuts the idea of Bond's death makes a clean break with the past. Talk about a confusing timeline.

    True, but tradition does tend to happen with cinematic Bond.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Clean slate…
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Clean slate…

    Much Agreed!
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