Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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    jake24 wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    This guy has a decent look for the part?

    Christian Howard:

    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2038226/mediaviewer/rm2114524928

    Looks a bit Tom Cruise-ish in this photo:

    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2038226/mediaviewer/rm1879643904

    And this one:

    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2038226/mediaviewer/rm1661540096

    Age34, British. He's got a posh-ish voice. Not sure his acting is too good:






    He seems into martial arts films - Streetfighter type films - so I guess he's not the smooth, sophisticated type, more your bruiser type?

    If he can do more than just action, can act like cool British spy, could be worth a screentest.* My guess is Barbara Broccoli would be very reluctant to cast an unknown actor known for action roles. I think she wants an actor with a broader range, already respected in the industry? Craig won applause for his earlier work such as 'Our Friends in the North' so it's hard to imagine an unknown guy making low budget action films impressing Babs. But you never know who might impress her.

    *Maybe not!









    Craig didn't show up on Babs' radar until she saw him in Later Cake iirc.
    Funny enough, it was actually his role in Elizabeth years before that put him on her radar.

    That's strange. Elizabeth really was my favourite movie of the 90s, it made me discover Cate Blanchett and I absolutely loved everything about it... But I barely noticed Daniel Craig in it. I remembered the killing monk of course but I would have never thought Craig was Bond material.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    This guy has a decent look for the part?

    Christian Howard:

    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2038226/mediaviewer/rm2114524928

    Looks a bit Tom Cruise-ish in this photo:

    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2038226/mediaviewer/rm1879643904

    And this one:

    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2038226/mediaviewer/rm1661540096

    Age34, British. He's got a posh-ish voice. Not sure his acting is too good:






    He seems into martial arts films - Streetfighter type films - so I guess he's not the smooth, sophisticated type, more your bruiser type?

    If he can do more than just action, can act like cool British spy, could be worth a screentest.* My guess is Barbara Broccoli would be very reluctant to cast an unknown actor known for action roles. I think she wants an actor with a broader range, already respected in the industry? Craig won applause for his earlier work such as 'Our Friends in the North' so it's hard to imagine an unknown guy making low budget action films impressing Babs. But you never know who might impress her.

    *Maybe not!









    Craig didn't show up on Babs' radar until she saw him in Later Cake iirc.
    Funny enough, it was actually his role in Elizabeth years before that put him on her radar.

    That's strange. Elizabeth really was my favourite movie of the 90s, it made me discover Cate Blanchett and I absolutely loved everything about it... But I barely noticed Daniel Craig in it. I remembered the killing monk of course but I would have never thought Craig was Bond material.
    I'm pretty sure I once read her saying in an interview that she had her eye on him since his performance in Our Friends In The North.
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    He was good in Layer Cake. Prior to that he hadn’t really stood out for me.
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    An actor I recently stumbled upon that is Cosmo Jarvis. He was in the recent film Lady Macbeth which has launched Florence Pugh.

    If they were looking for a younger actor, this guy has something. He has a confident swagger and effortless cool about him. He's somewhat reminiscent of Tom Hardy and Daniel Craig. He has that bad boy vibe that girls like and guys want to emulate.

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    Getting more of a footballer vibe.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    He reminds me of a slightly beefier Stan Collymore in that bottom image.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Looks too much like a thuggish meat-head. Gives off more of a goon vibe.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure I once read her saying in an interview that she had her eye on him since his performance in Our Friends In The North.
    I believe she said so in that radio interview that was released around the beginning of this year.

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    An actor I recently stumbled upon that is Cosmo Jarvis. He was in the recent film Lady Macbeth which has launched Florence Pugh.

    If they were looking for a younger actor, this guy has something. He has a confident swagger and effortless cool about him. He's somewhat reminiscent of Tom Hardy and Daniel Craig. He has that bad boy vibe that girls like and guys want to emulate.

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    And people say Craig looks like a bouncer :-)).

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    He'd definitely make a good henchman.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    He looks like a cross between Tom Hardy and Ed Skrein. Both of them are already bad choices, let alone this one.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
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    He has the perfect look... for a villain/henchman that is.
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Looks too much like a thuggish meat-head. Gives off more of a goon vibe.

    Looks also too much like a Mediterranean. He'd be like a Greek or Corsican thug.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited August 2018 Posts: 23,883
    M_Blaise wrote: »
    Getting more of a footballer vibe.
    Agreed.
    boldfinger wrote: »
    An actor I recently stumbled upon that is Cosmo Jarvis. He was in the recent film Lady Macbeth which has launched Florence Pugh.

    If they were looking for a younger actor, this guy has something. He has a confident swagger and effortless cool about him. He's somewhat reminiscent of Tom Hardy and Daniel Craig. He has that bad boy vibe that girls like and guys want to emulate.

    8130830.jpeg
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    And people say Craig looks like a bouncer :-)).
    He does, imho, but he is also a decent enough actor that he can pull off the part, if the script is up to par. Having said that, I'm reminded of how much more he looks like Grant than Bond whenever I watch FRWL these days.

    I really hope we get back to suave and handsome next time out, rather than folks who like like they've received a thrashing from Mike Tyson at his peak.

    As I said on another thread, the floodgates look to have been opened with Craig's casting, and I'd rather they be shut once more. Permanently.
    Getafix wrote: »
    He'd definitely make a good henchman.
    00Agent wrote: »
    He has the perfect look... for a villain/henchman that is.
    Quite.
    He looks like a cross between Tom Hardy and Ed Skrein. Both of them are already bad choices, let alone this one.
    Very appropriate description, and I too am not a fan of either, despite Pierce and Denzel seeming to be in favour of Hardy.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Looks too much like a thuggish meat-head. Gives off more of a goon vibe.

    Looks also too much like a Mediterranean. He'd be like a Greek or Corsican thug.
    This is the role he should audition for (the goon that is). Not Bond.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    bondjames wrote: »
    M_Blaise wrote: »
    Getting more of a footballer vibe.
    Agreed.
    boldfinger wrote: »
    An actor I recently stumbled upon that is Cosmo Jarvis. He was in the recent film Lady Macbeth which has launched Florence Pugh.

    If they were looking for a younger actor, this guy has something. He has a confident swagger and effortless cool about him. He's somewhat reminiscent of Tom Hardy and Daniel Craig. He has that bad boy vibe that girls like and guys want to emulate.

    8130830.jpeg
    actor-cosmo-jarvis-is-photographed-for-self-assignment-on-september-picture-id609734914?s=612x612
    MV5BODU0MjdlODktZWExNy00YTUzLTllZDctYzJhNDhiZGJmM2IwXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyODY3NzAwNTU@._V1_SY1000_CR0,0,667,1000_AL_.jpg
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    And people say Craig looks like a bouncer :-)).
    He does, imho, but he is also a decent enough actor that he can pull off the part, if the script is up to par. Having said that, I'm reminded of how much more he looks like Grant than Bond whenever I watch FRWL these days.

    I really hope we get back to suave and handsome next time out, rather than folks who like like they've received a thrashing from Mike Tyson at his peak.

    As I said on another thread, the floodgates look to have been opened with Craig's casting, and I'd rather they be shut once more. Permanently.
    Getafix wrote: »
    He'd definitely make a good henchman.
    00Agent wrote: »
    He has the perfect look... for a villain/henchman that is.
    Quite.
    He looks like a cross between Tom Hardy and Ed Skrein. Both of them are already bad choices, let alone this one.
    Very appropriate description, and I too am not a fan of either, despite Pierce and Denzel seeming to be in favour of Hardy.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Looks too much like a thuggish meat-head. Gives off more of a goon vibe.

    Looks also too much like a Mediterranean. He'd be like a Greek or Corsican thug.
    This is the role he should audition for (the goon that is). Not Bond.

    @bondjames I frequently find myself agreeing with your posts. This one is no exception.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    I still think the obvious choice would be Henry Cavill if he could find a little inner-swagger.

    Michael Fassbender would be perfect, but age is not on his side.

    Hardy is far too 'street' and Hiddlestone is a little too fey for my tastes.

    It's a tough conundrum. In times gone by there always seemed to be at least two actors that would stand out from the pack. We cant say that now.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Thanks @Roadphill. I'm glad we see eye to eye on where things need to go next.

    I pretty much agree on your comments above as well. Someone in the Cavill or Fassbender mold would be perfect for #007.
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    That’s my own thinking on the entire matter as well @Roadphill.
  • edited August 2018 Posts: 11,425
    bondjames wrote: »
    Thanks @Roadphill. I'm glad we see eye to eye on where things need to go next.

    I pretty much agree on your comments above as well. Someone in the Cavill or Fassbender mold would be perfect for #007.

    I wouldn't mention those two in the same breath personally.

    Apart from looking the part, I don't think Cavill has really demonstrated his suitability at all. And sadly Fassbender is almost certainly going to be too old, otherwise I'd agree he would have been an obvious choice.

    Cavill is bound to be one of these whose names is knocked about. But can any one seriously see Babs casting someone like Cavill in the role? I've always been of the view that she was distinctly tepid about Brosnan as Bond and her casting Craig was a clear demonstration of her desire to have a more hefty actor in the lead role. Assuming she has some say in the decision of who replaces Craig (and I don't see any serious indication she's about to throw the towel in) I simply cannot see another good-looking lightweight getting to wear the tux. I just don't think she'd be interested in working with someone like Cavill, who let's face it, is only ever going to be tolerable at best.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Getafix wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Thanks @Roadphill. I'm glad we see eye to eye on where things need to go next.

    I pretty much agree on your comments above as well. Someone in the Cavill or Fassbender mold would be perfect for #007.

    I wouldn't mention those two in the same breath personally.

    Apart from looking the part, I don't think Cavill has really demonstrated his suitability at all. And sadly Fassbender is almost certainly going to be too old, otherwise I'd agree he would have been an obvious choice.

    Cavill is bound to be one of these whose names is knocked about. But can any one seriously see Babs casting someone like Cavill in the role? I've always been of the view that she was distinctly tepid about Brosnan as Bond and her casting Craig was a clear demonstration of her desire to have a more hefty actor in the lead role. Assuming she has some say in the decision of who replaces Craig (and I don't see any serious indication she's about to throw the towel in) I simply cannot see another good-looking lightweight getting to wear the tux.
    Oh I certainly agree. I was more commenting on their physical attributes, which is my primary criticism of this Jarvis fellow. They both at least look the part, in a traditional way.

    Cavill is a bit lightweight and Fassbender is too old. Hiddleston needs to toughen up and Hardy is too 'street'.
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    Yes Hardy is an odd one. I disagree that he's too street. He's grown on me a bit recently after watching Taboo and Dunkirk. Prior to that I literally hadn't been able to understand a word he said in any of his films - Batman, Mad Max, the Reverent etc. Watching him in Dunkirk and Taboo was a bit of a revelation as I saw he has charisma and as the WW2 pilot, a certain dignity and restrained old-fashioned gravitas as well. He probably still looks a bit too much of a meat head but you could say the same of Craig and we came to accept him.

    I suppose one of the big things against Hardy might be that he seems too samey after Craig.

    Hiddleston must still be under consideration but I suspect (I may be wrong) he lacks a certain X factor with the female viewers.

  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    I agree with the recent posts. Craig was a chance of pace in terms of Bond actors. Now we need another change, not more of the same.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Getafix wrote: »
    Hiddleston must still be under consideration but I suspect (I may be wrong) he lacks a certain X factor with the female viewers.
    This certainly isn't the case. He has a massive global following with the finer sex - so much so that he was one of the primary marketing tools used by Kevin Feige for Infinity War, even though he only had a few minutes in that film. I think it's more the male contingent that thinks he's a bit effete. He needs to toughen up - he comes across like too much of a posh public school boy, which he of course is (Eaton, Cambridge like Bond). Versatile actor though, and could certainly bring back that polish that has been missing.

    Re: Brosnan - I've had a re-evaluation of him over the years. I'm in the camp that now believes EON did him a disservice. They really disgraced themselves with some of the crap they gave him to work with, and he did the best he could with it.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    @bondjames Ditto on Broz. He was perfectly fine as Bond, it the diminishing returns on the quality of his films that hurt him.

    That's down to the producers, writers and directors, not him. If all four of his films where of a similar quality to Goldeneye, he would be far more respected in Bond fandom than he is now.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Of the Marvel prospects, Hemsworth has it all over Huddleston. He has has the Alpha-Male quality that seems missing in Huddleston and has matured as an actor who also has the charm for the role.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Of the Marvel prospects, Hemsworth has it all over Huddleston. He has has the Alpha-Male quality that seems missing in Huddleston and has matured as an actor who also has the charm for the role.

    Agreed. Hemsworth's trajectory is what Cavill should have also experienced. Had this been the case, chances are not only would Cavill be a STRONG contender for Bond #7 but EoN may have decided to not bother with Craig for Bond 25 and just recast instead of trying to coax him back.
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    Roadphill wrote: »
    @bondjames Ditto on Broz. He was perfectly fine as Bond, it the diminishing returns on the quality of his films that hurt him.

    That's down to the producers, writers and directors, not him. If all four of his films where of a similar quality to Goldeneye, he would be far more respected in Bond fandom than he is now.

    I don’t rate any of his Bond films. Couldn’t stand GE when I first saw it in 95 and from my perspective the next three films just confirmed my initial fears to a greater or lesser extent. TWINE is probably the nadir. DAD just seems the inevitable and appropriate conclusion to the Brosnan era.

    I do subscribe to the view that he could have been a lot better with decent scripts and direction.

    Having said that he can’t be entirely absolved from all responsibility. He was given opportunities to demonstrate his acting chops and almost invariably failed to rise to the challenge. Put it down to complacency on his part or poor direction.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    Getafix wrote: »
    Roadphill wrote: »
    @bondjames Ditto on Broz. He was perfectly fine as Bond, it the diminishing returns on the quality of his films that hurt him.

    That's down to the producers, writers and directors, not him. If all four of his films where of a similar quality to Goldeneye, he would be far more respected in Bond fandom than he is now.

    I don’t rate any of his Bond films. Couldn’t stand GE when I first saw it in 95 and from my perspective the next three films just confirmed my initial fears to a greater or lesser extent. TWINE is probably the nadir. DAD just seems the inevitable and appropriate conclusion to the Brosnan era.

    I do subscribe to the view that he could have been a lot better with decent scripts and direction.

    Having said that he can’t be entirely absolved from all responsibility. He was given opportunities to demonstrate his acting chops and almost invariably failed to rise to the challenge. Put it down to complacency on his part or poor direction.

    Have to disagree on this one. I think Brosnan did well in the rare meaty scenes he was given.

    Each to their own.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Every time Brosnan had a meaty scene, he'd take a bite out of it-- literally and figuratively.
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