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  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
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    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Superintendent wrote: »
    Since many of us agree Michael Fassbender is/was perfect for the role, I'm wondering why wasn't he considered in 2005. Or was he? At the age of 29, he was perfect for a rookie 00 agent.

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    Makes you wonder how many films he could have done - and yet to possibly star in, had he been cast.

    He could still be playing Bond now, and probably for the next five years.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    Superintendent wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Superintendent wrote: »
    Since many of us agree Michael Fassbender is/was perfect for the role, I'm wondering why wasn't he considered in 2005. Or was he? At the age of 29, he was perfect for a rookie 00 agent.

    d0ae219c9ccd6fece396e66df086c19b.jpg
    Makes you wonder how many films he could have done - and yet to possibly star in, had he been cast.

    He could still be playing Bond now, and probably for the next five years.
    Agreed. He's certainly not too old yet, and I feel should have ideally taken over after SF.

    Every time I see that guy in a film (including a crap one) I think Bond. If the shoe fits....
  • GetafixGetafix
    edited August 2018 Posts: 11,425
    bondjames wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Yes Connery was a natural.

    he's terrible in Marnie though.
    Why do you say that? I thought he was perfectly fine, although he was a bit of an a'h#le. If you've not seen Woman of Straw, I highly recommend it. Best Connery non-Bond performance imho (also directed by Basil Dearden, who got the best out of Moore for The Man Who Haunted Himself).

    Sean seems incredibly uncomfortable and out of his depth in Marnie. it's one of Hitchcocks worst films though anyway so Sean can't take all the blame .

    haven't seen woman of straw. watched The Hill years ago which is good.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Roadphill wrote: »
    If I had to choose one from that list for now it would still be Cavill. I just think a decent script and director would be able to coach some swagger into him.

    Not that I am comparing him with Connery, but let's not forget, Terence Young basically moulded Connery into Bond material.
    It's a good point. A director with vision can certainly bring something heretofore missing out of an actor. I wouldn't dismiss Cavill at this point, although he's probably just a tad too well known.

    True, for me, his stock has recently dropped , I wasn’t impressed with what he did in MI:F, I wouldn’t completely dismiss him.
    Rigorous screentest are required for anyone who is seen as a serious contender.
    Agreed, and I hope they do that for the next guy. The James Brolin screentest always cracks me up. Bloody awful and I can't believe he was ever under consideration.

    I came across this interesting article which makes a case for a one shot film with Elba.

    https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2456002/the-case-for-an-idris-elba-james-bond-movie

    That would throw the series into even more confusion than it is now !!
    True. A fanciful idea, but passionately argued at least.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Looking at all the comments at the bottom of the article,it seems Stevens,Cavill and Elba are the most popular ones there.

    Colour and age aside (and the latter is now a huge argument against him), I don't understand Idris Elba's appeal: his last two movies were duds. At best. Maybe that's why he keeps on teasing his fanbase: if it wasn't for that rumor he'd be considered box office poison at this point.

    I agree...at least with Stevens and Cavill you can see the appeal they may have .

    I'm no fan of either but yes. Elba hasn't really been a great success on the big screen so far.
    In fairness, neither has Craig outside of Bond, despite having the fame associated with playing the most known spy of all for over a decade.

    But did Craig had movies that bombed like Elba’s before he was cast as Bond?
    I'm not sure. He has had what are seen as industry failures since being cast as Bond though, which is perhaps more disappointing. Bond confers a lot of visibility to an actor.

    I haven't seen that Dark Tower film, but I don't think we can lay the blame for its failure on Elba. That film looked like a POS from the trailers. Even McConaughey couldn't save it.

    It is a POS. As an avid fan of the books, they took all Stephen King's rich mythology and complex storytelling and threw it all away for generic action. The main character, Roland, whom Elba portrayed is one of the most interesting I have ever read. Again all this is lost on screen. To be honest the casting of Elba should have set alarm bells ringing. The character in the novel is white. One of the main side character's is a black woman from the 60's deep south(there is time travel involved, in a way) The racial tension between the two is one of the main character beats. That was a clearly a big plot point that was going to be jettisoned.

    Anyway enough of The Dark Tower. Back to Bond!
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited August 2018 Posts: 12,480
    I really don't want Fassbender. I don't have any ideas who is really a good possibility, but I don't want him as Bond. Just doesn't appeal to me at all.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited August 2018 Posts: 23,883
    Getafix wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Yes Connery was a natural.

    he's terrible in Marnie though.
    Why do you say that? I thought he was perfectly fine, although he was a bit of an a'h#le. If you've not seen Woman of Straw, I highly recommend it. Best Connery non-Bond performance imho (also directed by Basil Dearden, who got the best out of Moore for The Man Who Haunted Himself).

    Sean seems incredibly uncomfortable and out of his depth in Marnie. it's one of Hitchcocks worst films though anyway so Sean can't take all the blame .

    haven't seen woman of straw. watched The Hill years ago which is good.
    I must check out The Hill then.

    Please do see Woman of Straw when you can. Connery is brilliant in it.
    Roadphill wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Roadphill wrote: »
    If I had to choose one from that list for now it would still be Cavill. I just think a decent script and director would be able to coach some swagger into him.

    Not that I am comparing him with Connery, but let's not forget, Terence Young basically moulded Connery into Bond material.
    It's a good point. A director with vision can certainly bring something heretofore missing out of an actor. I wouldn't dismiss Cavill at this point, although he's probably just a tad too well known.

    True, for me, his stock has recently dropped , I wasn’t impressed with what he did in MI:F, I wouldn’t completely dismiss him.
    Rigorous screentest are required for anyone who is seen as a serious contender.
    Agreed, and I hope they do that for the next guy. The James Brolin screentest always cracks me up. Bloody awful and I can't believe he was ever under consideration.

    I came across this interesting article which makes a case for a one shot film with Elba.

    https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2456002/the-case-for-an-idris-elba-james-bond-movie

    That would throw the series into even more confusion than it is now !!
    True. A fanciful idea, but passionately argued at least.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Looking at all the comments at the bottom of the article,it seems Stevens,Cavill and Elba are the most popular ones there.

    Colour and age aside (and the latter is now a huge argument against him), I don't understand Idris Elba's appeal: his last two movies were duds. At best. Maybe that's why he keeps on teasing his fanbase: if it wasn't for that rumor he'd be considered box office poison at this point.

    I agree...at least with Stevens and Cavill you can see the appeal they may have .

    I'm no fan of either but yes. Elba hasn't really been a great success on the big screen so far.
    In fairness, neither has Craig outside of Bond, despite having the fame associated with playing the most known spy of all for over a decade.

    But did Craig had movies that bombed like Elba’s before he was cast as Bond?
    I'm not sure. He has had what are seen as industry failures since being cast as Bond though, which is perhaps more disappointing. Bond confers a lot of visibility to an actor.

    I haven't seen that Dark Tower film, but I don't think we can lay the blame for its failure on Elba. That film looked like a POS from the trailers. Even McConaughey couldn't save it.

    It is a POS. As an avid fan of the books, they took all Stephen King's rich mythology and complex storytelling and threw it all away for generic action. The main character, Roland, whom Elba portrayed is one of the most interesting I have ever read. Again all this is lost on screen. To be honest the casting of Elba should have set alarm bells ringing. The character in the novel is white. One of the main side character's is a black woman from the 60's deep south(there is time travel involved, in a way) The racial tension between the two is one of the main character beats. That was a clearly a big plot point that was going to be jettisoned.

    Anyway enough of The Dark Tower. Back to Bond!
    That is really disappointing to read. It's a shame they cast him then.
  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    Definitely watch The Hill. Just purchased it. Great film and Connery is excellent among a fine cast and well directed by Sidney Lumet!
  • barryt007barryt007
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    He is even toupee-less in The Hill .
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Will do chaps. Thanks for the recommendation.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    Good. The Hill is totally worth it.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
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    The Hill is excellent, and Sean is superb throughout. Marnie, isn't exactly the definitive Hitchcock film or the best Connery film. I do think Sean is good in it, though.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Woman of straw is Connery in full bastard mode. He's excellent, especially during his and Maria's verbal exchange in her room where he convinces her to stay. Masterclass of cool.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Woman of straw is Connery in full bastard mode. He's excellent, especially during his and Maria's verbal exchange in her room where he convinces her to stay. Masterclass of cool.
    +1. Hear hear!

    It’s my favourite Connery film of all time.
  • fanbond123fanbond123
    edited August 2018 Posts: 1,661
    Sam Heughan could be a strong contender for Bond 26. Reasons why...

    1) Has a decent face for the part. Good looking, square jaw kinda chap. He doesn't look like Craig so his casting would feel a bit fresh, I suppose.

    2) Starring in a popular tv show, Outlander.

    3) Show expected to end before Bond 26 begins filming. He'll be in his 40s when Bond 26 goes into production.

    4) Wants the part!

    5) Isn't Idris Elba. :P

    https://www.radiotimes.com/news/film/2018-07-31/sam-heughan-says-he-has-always-wanted-to-play-james-bond/

    Seeing the Sean Connery comments above - it's fair to say this guy isn't the next Sean Connery. I think we have to accept a Connery type guy coming along is very unlikely. Like almost zero chance.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Sam Heughan could be a strong contender for Bond 26. Reasons why...

    1) Has a decent face for the part. Good looking, square jaw kinda chap. He doesn't look like Craig so his casting would feel a bit fresh, I suppose.

    2) Starring in a popular tv show, Outlander.

    3) Show expected to end before Bond 26 begins filming

    4) Wants the part!

    5) Isn't Idris Elba. :P

    https://www.radiotimes.com/news/film/2018-07-31/sam-heughan-says-he-has-always-wanted-to-play-james-bond/
    You forgot to mention that he just humiliated himself by appearing in The Spy Who Dumped Me (I wonder if he got dumped or did the dumping?).

    The rumours didn't get traction. Elba did. So I can't see it frankly.
  • fanbond123fanbond123
    Posts: 1,661
    But that film might convince Eon he is the one!!!!! Babs loves her Bond spoofs!

    Bond HQ:

    Babs and MG are discussing Sam Heughan. MG notices Barbara is getting a bit hot and excited by the prospect of Sam taking over.

    "Oh, I like him! Yummy."

    "I thought you loved Daniel? Weren't you going to convince him to do a sixth film?"

    "Daniel? He's too old now. I'm bored of him. No, give me some younger man like Sam. He's the guy for Bond. Sam Heugan, Hungan, Heuigan, whatever his surname is. He's the guy. He's hot and women will like him. Trust me, MG, I've never let you down so shut up and let me do the casting."

    "Whatever you want, dear. Idris will be upset, though."




  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited August 2018 Posts: 23,883
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    But that film might convince Eon he is the one!!!!! Babs loves her Bond spoofs!
    In such case Mike Myers is free. ;)
  • LudovicoLudovico
    edited August 2018 Posts: 15,115
    I can't see him as Bond myself. Looks too much like a metrosexual model.

    If only Richard Madden could look manly clean shaved...
  • fanbond123fanbond123
    Posts: 1,661
    Richard Madden is short-ish!

    5ft 9 ¼

    He looked quite short in Bastille Day.

    (Aren't we terribly judgemental! - Being a Bond fan is not good for one's tolerance levels)

    If Richard reads this, I'm sure you look perfect so don't buy those high heel shoes. And good luck with the audition!

  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Sam Heughan could be a strong contender for Bond 26. Reasons why...

    1) Has a decent face for the part. Good looking, square jaw kinda chap. He doesn't look like Craig so his casting would feel a bit fresh, I suppose.

    2) Starring in a popular tv show, Outlander.

    3) Show expected to end before Bond 26 begins filming. He'll be in his 40s when Bond 26 goes into production.

    4) Wants the part!

    5) Isn't Idris Elba. :P

    https://www.radiotimes.com/news/film/2018-07-31/sam-heughan-says-he-has-always-wanted-to-play-james-bond/

    Seeing the Sean Connery comments above - it's fair to say this guy isn't the next Sean Connery. I think we have to accept a Connery type guy coming along is very unlikely. Like almost zero chance.

    No way....not for me at all.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,968
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Richard Madden is short-ish!

    5ft 9 ¼

    He looked quite short in Bastille Day.

    (Aren't we terribly judgemental! - Being a Bond fan is not good for one's tolerance levels)

    If Richard reads this, I'm sure you look perfect so don't buy those high heel shoes. And good luck with the audition!

    Craig is only 5'10", not much of a difference.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,115
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Richard Madden is short-ish!

    5ft 9 ¼

    He looked quite short in Bastille Day.

    (Aren't we terribly judgemental! - Being a Bond fan is not good for one's tolerance levels)

    If Richard reads this, I'm sure you look perfect so don't buy those high heel shoes. And good luck with the audition!

    That's my other issue as well.
  • bondsumbondsum
    edited August 2018 Posts: 3,333
    In all seriousness, the next Bond actor is still probably only aged 25 to 28 and is under the radar to most people, making appearances in Holly City, Casualty and various other TV dramas.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,753
    bondsum wrote: »
    In all seriousness, the next Bond actor is still probably only aged 25 to 28 and is under the radar to most people, making appearances in Holly City, Casualty and various other TV dramas.

    What about Danny Dyer? :))
    dannydyer.jpg
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    In all seriousness, the next Bond actor is still probably only aged 25 to 28 and is under the radar to most people, making appearances in Holly City, Casualty and various other TV dramas.

    What about Danny Dyer? :))
    dannydyer.jpg

    Yeah !!

    Eez ah diamond geezer,nah wot ah mean ? but I fink he wood be 'Pony' as Bond,me olde china,Torg,pal.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,968
    This is gold:

    https://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/scarlett-johansson-cast-as-first-black-james-bond/
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,115
    bondsum wrote: »
    In all seriousness, the next Bond actor is still probably only aged 25 to 28 and is under the radar to most people, making appearances in Holly City, Casualty and various other TV dramas.

    Luke Thompson from In the Club? Maybe? Rubbish melodramedy but he held his own in it.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    edited August 2018 Posts: 17,753
    barryt007 wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    In all seriousness, the next Bond actor is still probably only aged 25 to 28 and is under the radar to most people, making appearances in Holly City, Casualty and various other TV dramas.

    What about Danny Dyer? :))
    dannydyer.jpg

    Yeah !!

    Eez ah diamond geezer,nah wot ah mean ? but I fink he wood be 'Pony' as Bond,me olde china,Torg,pal.

    Hahaha, just like Fleming himself would write accents, @barryt007!
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    Posts: 13,978
    1130587_danny_dyer_6_9a7531320d1b7b03d67fdc9e49b53289.jpg
    "Oi, muppet, shake it don't stir it, or i'll put sumfin' right across your canistah."
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    edited August 2018 Posts: 17,753
    MajorDSmythe wrote: »
    1130587_danny_dyer_6_9a7531320d1b7b03d67fdc9e49b53289.jpg
    "Oi, muppet, shake it don't stir it, or i'll put sumfin' right across your canistah."

    Hahaha! Imagine bar scenes with Dyer Bond, and every bartender that gets the martini wrong :))
    DyerNorton.gif

    And then there's the seduction scenes…
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