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Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • bondywondybondywondy Uk
    edited September 2022 Posts: 346
    It's worth reminding people that despite all the media attention Idris Elba has got about playing Bond - including his own self promotion! - he's not a profitable box office star. His last two films bombed at the box office.
    'Beast' has grossed $29 million domestically and $20 million overseas

    Three Thousand Years Of Longing may turn out to be the biggest flop of the year.
    Three Thousand Years of Longing arrived in the US over the weekend, but grossed just $2.88 million from 2,436 theaters, coming in at seventh place, as per Box Office Mojo.

    Three things to bear in mind: firstly, it’s Miller’s first film since Mad Max: Fury Road, which was a major critical and financial success; it’s led by Idris Elba and Tilda Swinton, two somewhat bankable stars; and most of all, Three Thousand Years of Longing has a budget of $60 million, so opening with less than $3 million in the US is a pretty harrowing forecast.

    Eon could hire Joe Shmoe with zero fame and he would have as much box office potential as Elba. Same is true for any other actor such as Cavill, Turner etc. Craig wasn't a box office name prior to Casino Royale. Amazon would probably never agree to it but you could hire a George Lazenby never acted before type and the general public wouldn't care. As soon the gun barrel opens and we see the actor firing the gun....he is James Bond. All prior acting history and box office stats are irrelevant. He'll stand or fall based on his performance.

  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I can appreciate the problem that some have with his accent(s) , but damn , Hemsworth does have a great voice; it’s such a welcome contrast to that of so many young actors today, who too often have high pitched, thin voices .
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @talos7 : too many grains and too little protein, 😂.

    On a separate note:

    https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/jon-hamm-in-the-running-for-james-bond.html
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    😂
  • 00Heaven00Heaven Home
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    peter wrote: »
    @talos7 : too many grains and too little protein, 😂.

    On a separate note:

    https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/jon-hamm-in-the-running-for-james-bond.html

    Jon Hamm has always looked the part for me and he can do a passable English accent. With a little work, probably even better. He's also a decent actor. He was excellent in Mad Men. However, at 51 he's simply too old now to be considered. Nice to hear that he is likely a fan.

    Of course, now it's also just an excuse for me to share with you some pictures of one of my favourite fancies :).

    3500.jpg?width=1200&height=900&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&s=71b2d19f3498e8d3396010080361a084

    JHamm_GQ_03Sep12_b.jpg
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @00Heaven , definitely a stud. But this Freakin Robot website is another example of cheap click-bait from their heading. Completely unrealistic (too old, too American, 😂).
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited September 2022 Posts: 8,205
    peter wrote: »
    @00Heaven , definitely a stud. But this Freakin Robot website is another example of cheap click-bait from their heading. Completely unrealistic (too old, too American, 😂).

    I agree 100%. Only recently have I watched “ Mad Men” and loved it. There was one episode where they leaned heavily into the Bond vibe and used Nancy Sinatra’s “ You only Live Twice. “

    He could have made a great Felix

  • 00Heaven00Heaven Home
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    peter wrote: »
    @00Heaven , definitely a stud. But this Freakin Robot website is another example of cheap click-bait from their heading. Completely unrealistic (too old, too American, 😂).

    It's the scourge of modern journalism!
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    peter wrote: »
    @00Heaven , definitely a stud. But this Freakin Robot website is another example of cheap click-bait from their heading. Completely unrealistic (too old, too American, 😂).
    I wasn't entirely sure before about how reliable that site is, because I only ran into news articles from it occasionally, but that article you posted, with its clickbaity headline, is definite proof that it cannot be trusted.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    talos7 wrote: »
    I can appreciate the problem that some have with his accent(s) , but damn , Hemsworth does have a great voice; it’s such a welcome contrast to that of so many young actors today, who too often have high pitched, thin voices .

    Turner also has a great deep/ commanding voice. A very important point actually.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    When I watched Casino at the cinema the other week, Craig's voice stood out to me. Bond should always have a deep commanding voice, it's hidden but integral part of the character
  • ByRoyalDecreeByRoyalDecree
    edited September 2022 Posts: 784
    talos7 wrote: »
    I can appreciate the problem that some have with his accent(s) , but damn , Hemsworth does have a great voice; it’s such a welcome contrast to that of so many young actors today, who too often have high pitched, thin voices .
    peter wrote: »
    @talos7 : too many grains and too little protein, 😂.

    I think it's excessive masturbation and tight neck muscles (bad posture). If I recall correctly Connery had to deepen his in the voice over.

    Any capable (voice) actor can lower their voice significantly.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    ByRoyalDecree wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    I can appreciate the problem that some have with his accent(s) , but damn , Hemsworth does have a great voice; it’s such a welcome contrast to that of so many young actors today, who too often have high pitched, thin voices .
    peter wrote: »
    @talos7 : too many grains and too little protein, 😂.

    I think its excessive masturbation and tight neck muscles (bad posture). If I recall correctly Connery had to deepen his in the voice over.

    Any capable (voice) actor can lower their voice significantly.

    Voice of experience?
  • ByRoyalDecreeByRoyalDecree
    edited September 2022 Posts: 784
    talos7 wrote: »
    ByRoyalDecree wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    I can appreciate the problem that some have with his accent(s) , but damn , Hemsworth does have a great voice; it’s such a welcome contrast to that of so many young actors today, who too often have high pitched, thin voices .
    peter wrote: »
    @talos7 : too many grains and too little protein, 😂.

    I think its excessive masturbation and tight neck muscles (bad posture). If I recall correctly Connery had to deepen his in the voice over.

    Any capable (voice) actor can lower their voice significantly.

    Voice of experience?

    I wouldn't know. I am only guessing of course 😁 ...on behalf of a friend

    https://youtube.com/shorts/AXGx9hmLhwA?feature=share
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    ByRoyalDecree wrote: »
    excessive masturbation

    I don't know what that word means. Excessive.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I’m looking forward to Fletch, hoping it’s good.
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    When I watched Casino at the cinema the other week, Craig's voice stood out to me. Bond should always have a deep commanding voice, it's hidden but integral part of the character

    Yes I think he’s got one of the best Bond voices.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    ByRoyalDecree wrote: »
    excessive masturbation

    I don't know what that word means. Excessive.

    :))

    News, we need news!
  • QsCatQsCat London
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    Jon Hamm would be a great Felix! I absolutely loved that scene at the time, the one with YOLT. In terms of his relationship with women during Mad Men, Draper is much like Bond.
    I remember a moment where he's with a woman who is wearing a cross around her neck. He asks if she prays for forgiveness. She replies "no, I pray for you".
    Much like the bit with the last scene with Camille in Quantum.
    Hamm would have been a great Bond too, but would we want an American as Bond? I think Craig fulfilled that Draper-esque potential with the role.. Somewhat ..


  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,205
    QsCat wrote: »
    Jon Hamm would be a great Felix! I absolutely loved that scene at the time, the one with YOLT. In terms of his relationship with women during Mad Men, Draper is much like Bond.
    I remember a moment where he's with a woman who is wearing a cross around her neck. He asks if she prays for forgiveness. She replies "no, I pray for you".
    Much like the bit with the last scene with Camille in Quantum.
    Hamm would have been a great Bond too, but would we want an American as Bond? I think Craig fulfilled that Draper-esque potential with the role.. Somewhat ..


    Pairing him with a younger Bond, as a quasi-mentor role could really work.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    talos7 wrote: »
    QsCat wrote: »
    Jon Hamm would be a great Felix! I absolutely loved that scene at the time, the one with YOLT. In terms of his relationship with women during Mad Men, Draper is much like Bond.
    I remember a moment where he's with a woman who is wearing a cross around her neck. He asks if she prays for forgiveness. She replies "no, I pray for you".
    Much like the bit with the last scene with Camille in Quantum.
    Hamm would have been a great Bond too, but would we want an American as Bond? I think Craig fulfilled that Draper-esque potential with the role.. Somewhat ..


    Pairing him with a younger Bond, as a quasi-mentor role could really work.

    That could be a really nice dynamic….
  • 00Heaven00Heaven Home
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    Was gonna say before and other's have touched on what I thought... Why restrict Felix to being just a young Felix? You could shake up that formula just a little bit.

    You're right that Hamm would be an excellent Felix too. I wouldn't mind seeing it much!
  • Agent_Zero_OneAgent_Zero_One Ireland
    Posts: 554
    mtm wrote: »
    This is the old article from 2005 on CBN, and they did seem to have some sort of source to the production into who was considered.

    https://commanderbond.net/2995/the-men-who-could-have-been-bond.html

    Gerard Butler
    Henry Cavill
    Rupert Friend
    Daniel Goddard
    Martin Henderson
    Julian McMahon
    David Morrissey
    Alex O’Lachlan
    Ingo Rademacher
    Dougray Scott
    Christian Solimeno
    Antony Starr
    Karl Urban
    Goran Visnjic
    Dominic West
    Sam Worthington

    They knew that Cavill, Craig and Worthington may have been in the final three, and that O’Lachlan says he tested in costume, so there may have been more.
    You may be surprised to hear I thought West was pretty good as a suave secret agent in Johnny English Reborn. I think he could've pulled Bond off.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited September 2022 Posts: 13,978
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    There is no salve for this thread quite like a photo of the man who should be Bond:
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    Yes! I know he might be the wrong side of 40, but still worth screen testing. I would put him as my 4th preferred choice, behind Cavill, Turner and Hoult.
  • QsCatQsCat London
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    Also, Hamm is similar to Craig in the way that they both seem to be both pursuing
    MajorDSmythe wrote: »
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    There is no salve for this thread quite like a photo of the man who should be Bond:
    e7f1830149d0bdbe6090885cb2051e51.jpg

    Yes! I know he might be the wrong side of 40, but still worth screen testing. I would put him as my 4th preferred choice, behind Cavill, Turner and Hoult.
    Hoping for none of 'em. A fresh new face ideally.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Dominic West's from Sheffield - that's a no-no for a start! ;)
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited September 2022 Posts: 3,787
    bondywondy wrote: »
    It's worth reminding people that despite all the media attention Idris Elba has got about playing Bond - including his own self promotion! - he's not a profitable box office star. His last two films bombed at the box office.
    'Beast' has grossed $29 million domestically and $20 million overseas

    Three Thousand Years Of Longing may turn out to be the biggest flop of the year.
    Three Thousand Years of Longing arrived in the US over the weekend, but grossed just $2.88 million from 2,436 theaters, coming in at seventh place, as per Box Office Mojo.

    Three things to bear in mind: firstly, it’s Miller’s first film since Mad Max: Fury Road, which was a major critical and financial success; it’s led by Idris Elba and Tilda Swinton, two somewhat bankable stars; and most of all, Three Thousand Years of Longing has a budget of $60 million, so opening with less than $3 million in the US is a pretty harrowing forecast.

    Eon could hire Joe Shmoe with zero fame and he would have as much box office potential as Elba. Same is true for any other actor such as Cavill, Turner etc. Craig wasn't a box office name prior to Casino Royale. Amazon would probably never agree to it but you could hire a George Lazenby never acted before type and the general public wouldn't care. As soon the gun barrel opens and we see the actor firing the gun....he is James Bond. All prior acting history and box office stats are irrelevant. He'll stand or fall based on his performance.

    Yes, and the character should be bigger than any actor.

    Like when I'm watching him, I'd liked to see the character himself not the actor.
    Separate, and different.

    That's the problem these days, when I'm watching movies, I'm keep seeing the actors, it's their name that keeps popping in my head, and not the character, their just acting it out without putting the essence of the character inside of them and let it show to us.

    The character should be at the front, while the actor should be at the back, let the character do the work.

    Now, it's different, actor at the front, character was just behind.

    I should see the character, not the actor.

    I don't care whoever plays the role, I don't even require them to have an Oscar-Esque acting, I just want them (don't take this literally), to become the vessel for the possession of the character.

    Don't show me themselves, show me the character.

    That's one of the reasons why Lazenby worked with me (though he's no means my favorite) but he put the character at the front, I see Bond, there aren't any moments where Lazenby's name pops in my head, I just keep seeing Bond the whole time, means the character was bigger than the man himself, the character overshadowed the actor.

    And the same goes for Dalton, he'd let the character overshadowed him, that's why I'm keep seeing Bond the whole time and not Dalton himself.

    Nowadays, it's rare, though you could see it in Timothee Chalamet as Paul Atreides in Dune and Elizabeth Olsen as Scarlet Witch, you'd never think of the actors/actresses themselves when playing the character, because you see the character on the screen.

    The character should overshadow the actor.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    The greatness and popularity of the character helps an actor settle into the role, I suppose. That's why I think there's no bad Bond actor, but just one better than the other.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    Just in:

    https://variety.com/2022/film/global/james-bond-007-barbara-broccoli-michael-g-wilson-1235378239
  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    Theres some news about a big announcement being made on October 5th?
    Anybody know anything about this?
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    Sounds like we can expect a monogamous or sexless Bond moving forward.
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