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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    I would agree with Arnold that his music isn't too much about homages and quotations of older scores. The "machine gun brass" in TND is pretty much the same as the beginning of the FRWL title music, but that's about the only really clear reference to an older score, as far as I can remember. He writes in the same idiom as John Barry, but he does his own thing.

    Well he quotes the sort of circulating strings tension bit from OHMSS in that same piece of music! :)
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    mtm wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    I would agree with Arnold that his music isn't too much about homages and quotations of older scores. The "machine gun brass" in TND is pretty much the same as the beginning of the FRWL title music, but that's about the only really clear reference to an older score, as far as I can remember. He writes in the same idiom as John Barry, but he does his own thing.

    Well he quotes the sort of circulating strings tension bit from OHMSS in that same piece of music! :)
    Could you be more specific? I have an idea, but I'm not really sure which bit you're referring to in either score.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited October 2020 Posts: 16,428
    This is quite nice, someone having a bash at what I Will Return may have sounded like (Mr Arnold even responds):


    mattjoes wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    I would agree with Arnold that his music isn't too much about homages and quotations of older scores. The "machine gun brass" in TND is pretty much the same as the beginning of the FRWL title music, but that's about the only really clear reference to an older score, as far as I can remember. He writes in the same idiom as John Barry, but he does his own thing.

    Well he quotes the sort of circulating strings tension bit from OHMSS in that same piece of music! :)
    Could you be more specific? I have an idea, but I'm not really sure which bit you're referring to in either score.

    Sorry, I only just saw this @mattjoes . I mean the strings which appear at 7.36 here:


    are a quote of the strings at 1.29 here:
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited October 2020 Posts: 16,428
    That's quite interesting to hear him say that re: I Will Return:

  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    Posts: 7,021
    mtm wrote: »
    This is quite nice, someone having a bash at what I Will Return may have sounded like (Mr Arnold even responds):


    mattjoes wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    I would agree with Arnold that his music isn't too much about homages and quotations of older scores. The "machine gun brass" in TND is pretty much the same as the beginning of the FRWL title music, but that's about the only really clear reference to an older score, as far as I can remember. He writes in the same idiom as John Barry, but he does his own thing.

    Well he quotes the sort of circulating strings tension bit from OHMSS in that same piece of music! :)
    Could you be more specific? I have an idea, but I'm not really sure which bit you're referring to in either score.

    Sorry, I only just saw this @mattjoes . I mean the strings which appear at 7.36 here:


    are a quote of the strings at 1.29 here:
    Ah, I see! Arnold could have certainly been referencing OHMSS there, but I'm not entirely sure, because I get the feeling those "circulating strings" aren't an uncommon device in film scores, though I can't think of a specific example to support my argument.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited October 2020 Posts: 16,428
    Nah, they're definitely an OHMSS quote- I remember thinking it the first time I heard it. he'd just used them in his cover version of OHMSS with the Propellerheads at the time.

    Incidentally, Arnold's Scala Radio show The Music of James Bond is getting a repeat run from this weekend (even though they still can't do the final episode about NTTD!).

    Also, Arnold is on Mark Kermode's latest podcast talking Bond:
    https://t.co/P05K3Ssw6x?amp=1
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    mtm wrote: »
    Nah, they're definitely an OHMSS quote- I remember thinking it the first time I heard it. he'd just used them in his cover version of OHMSS with the Propellerheads at the time.
    Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

    mtm wrote: »
    Also, Arnold is on Mark Kermode's latest podcast talking Bond:
    https://t.co/P05K3Ssw6x?amp=1
    Thank you, will listen!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,428
    I just had a listen to that podcast; it's very good and well worth a listen!

  • Risico007Risico007
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    i genuinely miss Arnold
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    i genuinely miss Arnold

    Me too...a lot!
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    i genuinely miss Arnold

    I do as well. I really enjoy his work for Bond and outside of Bond. I hope he makes a return to the franchise one day.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    The guy knew Bond, and his music demonstrated that.

    Would love to see him come back.
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    Did one of you listen to "Time to get out" while driving? This was carzy. I always looked back if a car was following me and thought somebody would try to shoot me...and I drove too fast. ;) What I want to say: Awesome track and I miss Arnold, too. But I'm absolutely looking forward to find out what Zimmer did for NTTD.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    goldenswissroyale wrote: »
    Did one of you listen to "Time to get out" while driving? This was carzy. I always looked back if a car was following me and thought somebody would try to shoot me...and I drove too fast. ;) What I want to say: Awesome track and I miss Arnold, too. But I'm absolutely looking forward to find out what Zimmer did for NTTD.

    'Time to get out' is definitely great driving music!

    In fact i listen to Arnold's Bond scores a lot whilst driving.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    That Kermode interview with David Arnold was a worthwhile listen. I enjoyed the stories about Arnold's exclusively-for-Bond guitar, his attempts at recreating the timbre of the guitar in the original Bond theme recording, and the recording sessions of Surrender and The Name's Bond...James Bond.
  • AstonLotusAstonLotus
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    goldenswissroyale wrote: »
    Did one of you listen to "Time to get out" while driving? This was carzy. I always looked back if a car was following me and thought somebody would try to shoot me...and I drove too fast. ;) What I want to say: Awesome track and I miss Arnold, too. But I'm absolutely looking forward to find out what Zimmer did for NTTD.

    Done that more than once and its actually kind of dangerous as it makes you want to drive faster!
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
    Posts: 4,483
    AstonLotus wrote: »
    goldenswissroyale wrote: »
    Did one of you listen to "Time to get out" while driving? This was carzy. I always looked back if a car was following me and thought somebody would try to shoot me...and I drove too fast. ;) What I want to say: Awesome track and I miss Arnold, too. But I'm absolutely looking forward to find out what Zimmer did for NTTD.

    Done that more than once and its actually kind of dangerous as it makes you want to drive faster!

    Yes, it's almost impossible to drive slowly to it!
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    Some nice praise for David Arnold in the Being James Bond doc from Barbara Broccoli, who remarks how beautiful his music is in the shower scene in CR.

    She's not wrong.
  • QQ7QQ7 Croatia
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    Warm recommendation:


    ...based on Arnold's soundtrack.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    David Arnold is doing the music for Confess, Fletch. I doubt it'll be in the electronic style of the previous scores, but I for one want to see what he'll come up with.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    This was a great way for my ears to spend half an hour.

  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    Last of the Dogmen...never seen the film, but what a score! Definitely Arnold at his most Barryesque. He really never would write another score like this one (that I'm aware of), but you can definitely hear similarities in the more romantic and emotional material in the likes of Stargate, Independence Day, and Godzilla. I wish we would get more scores for epic films from Arnold. I'm cautiously hopeful he'll be back for the debut of Bond #7.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    Some_Kind_Of_Hero wrote: »
    Last of the Dogmen...never seen the film, but what a score! Definitely Arnold at his most Barryesque. He really never would write another score like this one (that I'm aware of), but you can definitely hear similarities in the more romantic and emotional material in the likes of Stargate, Independence Day, and Godzilla. I wish we would get more scores for epic films from Arnold. I'm cautiously hopeful he'll be back for the debut of Bond #7.
    Yes, very Barryesque. I especially felt that in the first theme of that suite I posted.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    This was a great way for my ears to spend half an hour.


    What an incredible score. I had never heard of this film; it’s has an interesting premise and is held in high regard by many, so I just ordered it.
  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
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    Words of wisdom.

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,428
    mattjoes wrote: »
    David Arnold is doing the music for Confess, Fletch. I doubt it'll be in the electronic style of the previous scores, but I for one want to see what he'll come up with.

    Wow, he's got a job? How long's that been?
  • morcarvicmorcarvic france
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    with apologies to non brits here ,but did anyone catch david making an appearance as a team contestant on itv's the chase game show ,28 th of august 2022.the charity line-up also included tom daley,s diving partner and basil brush .
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I saw him on The Chase, indeed. Very entertaining.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    Worth crossposting here, I guess...

    La-La Land Records just announced they are releasing Tomorrow Never Dies.

    NOBODY DOES IT BETTER THAN LA-LA LAND RECORDS...

    RELEASE #2

    TOMORROW NEVER DIES: EXPANDED/REMASTERED 25TH ANNIVERSARY LIMITED EDITION
    LLLCD 1607
    Music by David Arnold
    Limited Edition of 5000 Units
    RETAIL PRICE: $29.98

    ORDERS BEGIN TUESDAY NOVEMBER 29, 2022 AT 12 PM PST

    La-La Land Records, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer and Geffen Records proudly present the remastered and expanded 2-CD re-issue of the original motion picture score to the 1997 feature film TOMORROW NEVER DIES, starring Pierce Brosnan as James Bond 007, Michelle Yeoh and Jonathan Pryce, and directed by Roger Spottiswoode. Renowned composer David Arnold (STARGATE, DIE ANOTHER DAY, THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH) unleashes a triumphant score -- his acclaimed debut in the James Bond canon. It’s a breathtaking and sophisticated epic work that propels Bond through an exciting globe-spanning adventure teaming with action, dramatic intrigue and romance. Arnold brings a contemporary edge to Bond, expertly melding orchestra with electronics in robust fashion, but he simultaneously preserves and honors the series’ classic musical legacy, often bringing it thrillingly front and center.

    Remastered and expanded with a treasure trove of previously unreleased music, this deluxe 2-CD set showcases Arnold’s legendary score as well as the movie’s opening and closing songs, “Tomorrow Never Dies” performed by Sheryl Crow and “Surrender” performed by k.d. lang, along with additional bonus music featuring alternate score cues and the previously unreleased source cues “It Had To Be You” performed by Simon Greenaway and “Adrift” and “Shaken But Not Stirred” performed by Simon Greenway and Sacha Collisson. Also here, a never-before-released alternate opening for “Surrender”! Produced by David Arnold and Neil S. Bulk, and mastered by Doug Schwartz, from original stereo digital tapes provided by MGM, this special release is limited to 5000 units and features exclusive, in-depth liner notes by writer Tim Greiving, which include new comments from the composer. The sharp art design is by Dan Goldwasser.

    TRACK LISTING:

    DISC 1
    SCORE PRESENTATION
    1. White Knight† 8:28
    2. Backseat Pilot*† 1:41
    3. Tomorrow Never Dies (Performed By Sheryl Crow) 4:50
    4. The Sinking Of The Devonshire (Extended Version)** 7:22
    5. MI6*† / Launch The Fleet*† 1:34
    6. Company Car (Extended Version)**† 3:35
    7. You Have A Phone Call, Mr. Bond* 1:02
    8. Station Break 3:29
    9. Carver And Paris* 1:06
    10. Paris And Bond (Film Version)** 1:56
    11. The Last Goodbye 1:34
    12. Hamburg Break In 2:52
    13. Hamburg Break Out 1:24
    14. Printing Press Fight* 1:22
    15. Escape To Hotel*† 2:28
    16. Doctor Kaufman 2:27
    17. *-3-Send 1:15
    18. Backseat Driver (Film Version)**† 4:35
    19. Okinawa* / HALO Jump* 2:25
    20. Underwater Discovery 3:37
    21. Vietnam 1:36 22. Banner Escape* 1:10
    23. Bike Chase† 6:43
    24. Bike Shop Fight (Film Version)** 2:32
    TOTAL DISC 1 TIME: 1:11:41

    DISC 2
    SCORE PRESENTATION CONTINUED
    1. Ha Long Bay 2:32
    2. Boarding The Stealth† 4:57
    3. Grenade* 1:39
    4. A Tricky Spot For 007** 3:49
    5. Stealth Shoot Out*† 3:33
    6. Carver Gets It*† 2:53
    7. All In A Day’s Work† 5:08
    8. Surrender (Performed By k.d. lang) 3:56
    TOTAL SCORE TIME: 1:40:20

    ADDITIONAL MUSIC
    9. White Knight (Original Version)**† 8:37
    10. Backseat Pilot (Original Version)*† 2:20
    11. The Sinking Of The Devonshire (Original Version)** 5:37
    12. Company Car† 3:06
    13. Shaken But Not Stirred (Simon Greenaway / Sacha Collisson)* 3:27
    14. It Had To Be You (Performed By Simon Greenaway)* 2:03
    15. Adrift (Simon Greenaway / Sacha Collisson)* 3:58
    16. Paris And Bond 1:56
    17. The Last Goodbye (Alternate Version)* 1:30
    18. Printing Press Fight (Film Opening)* 1:10
    19. Backseat Driver† 4:35
    20. Banner Escape (Film Mix)* 1:10
    21. Bike Shop Fight 2:42
    22. Surrender (Alternate Version) (Performed By k.d. lang)** 3:53
    TOTAL ADDITIONAL MUSIC TIME: 46:26
    TOTAL DISC 2 TIME: 1:15:12

    * Previously unreleased
    ** Contains previously unreleased material
    † Contains “James Bond Theme” written by Monty Norman

    TOTAL ALBUM TIME: 2:26:53

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    Source:
    https://www.facebook.com/lalalandrecords/posts/pfbid037YLgniHaqPgAqsQ2LZV8gjj8ouWA2joLgkUrrcyB5hdv2LumKMtNJxRu5dAJviXzl?__cft__[0]=AZXFrFUbvxojMO5RboXwsZ3U_h2g1mxwOIB2ws68Ka97UJx6IoX6BZqeLa925mfPgODGHTSJ7E4mNUBGflGUdDHZQ0iy3tZ1Q-YXOo_1SnOp9j4-BYlI09vh8bX8KpJ4ArKVq-FwvBIXK3JMEHLtBXwkwEAuKzZiGhegUzY15HgwiM5hKLeTKiKkfF8eOlVJL490WxckcUtHx2CUK79cWa-A&__tn__=,O,P-R
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,218
    Fantastic!
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