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I don't think people are trying to be funny though. It's just an apt and easy way to reference the new trope of Bond, M, Moneypenny, Q, and Tanner collectively in action in the field in Skyfall and especially in Spectre. And you only have to use three words and everyone knows instantly what you're talking about.
1. WALTZ
2. WALTZ
3. WALTZ
4. WALTZ
Actually I think I find that the most offensive of all SP's flaws brothergate included.
It's literally as if someone like Disney had taken control and just came up with stuff they thought was about right without the slightest knowledge of Fleming or the character and its history.
Might as well have said:
'The names James, James Bond'
'Certificated to kill'
'Agitated with your hand but not stirred'
It's like a cheap Chinese knock off - looks about right but your eye can imperceptibly detect something is a bit off.
It's the perfect term because it carries the requisite derision worthy of the bumbling clowns following Bond around in their Mystery Machine Range Rover.
You and others can deride it but I'm afraid it's here to stay. Letters of complaint should be adressed to:
Sam Mendes c/o
EON Productions
London
Bear in mind that if the Scooby Gang didn't exist in the film the term Scooby Gang would never have been coined.
No kidding.
The '00 section' is the program put into effect.
Having said that, I do share the concern, and hope they don't start calling the section that from now on - keep it as 00 'section', or even 'division' as seen on MI6/Q props from the Brosnan era.
I like both Waltz and Seydoux, I just despise the way they were wasted in the last film.
I put most of the blame on Mendes. We´ve had enough ridiculous scripts in the past that were made into much more entertaining films.
Which isn´t meant to say I wouldn´t welcome or long for a great script.
As an aside, it seems to me film writers are often criticized for ideas they didn't even come up with, and were forced to include in their scripts because other people told them to. A good writer is certainly more likely than a bad one to manage to accomodate the director's/ producer's wishes without sacrificing the quality of the script, but there is a limit to how much crap can be transformed into gold.
I see where you are coming from. Is it possible the writers came up with the line "scrap the 00 section forever" but felt it sounded strange, and wound up changing the word 'section' instead of the word 'scrap'? Does that make any sense?
At any rate, all they had to do was to have M say something like "close the 00 section forever" and they would've managed to stick to known Bond terminology.
Problem is he can't. Can't like in he is not able to. All he can is melodrama and I think it's fair to say just about everybody has enough of that.
Also the notion that every police man stands in awe, once he gets the term "00 program" thrown at him in itself it's ridiculous. Not that it matters with SP.
Nobody is laughing about it mate, I can assure you.
True.
Once the shark has already been jumped moaning that the Fonz doesn't quite nail the landing seems a little redundant.
The whole final act just needed someone on set with an airhorn that played this:
Then every time someone came up with a shit idea like brothergate or the 00 program you would go up and hit them in the face with 'STOP GETTING BOND WRONG!' at 200 decibels.
For my money(penny):
1. Newman
2. Mendes
3. Seydoux
4. The Spanish Inquisition
(Bet you didn't expect to see the Spanish Inquisition...)
Alan Partridge for Bond 25 director!
And when on set, he can call Craig like this:
The more we drive our disdain of the "Scooby Gang" home, the more chance it has of being being picked up by studio bosses and consigned to the dustbin. I'm all for keeping this one rolling.
What is EON’s level of awareness of fan sites and forums?
+1
What he needs to do is recapture his CR virility, which Mendes choked out of him over two films.
First by suddenly making him an old dog in SF.
The less said about Craig's inert performance in SP the better.
If you look at the four films in totality, you see a graduation from potent, romantic, brutal ass-kicker to placid ornament.
That's what Mendes has done with Bond - have him stand stock still while the cinematographer snaps off gorgeous shot after gorgeous shot.
Dunno about others, but for me the Bond that Craig started with, the one that kicked off favourable comparisons to Connery, has been destroyed by pretentious direction.
SF may have several excellent attributes but there is no doubt in my mind that the rot started then.
Bringing Mendes back would be a disaster.
1. Mendes
Responsible for much of the fanwankery and over-homaging, irresponsible spending, and (I’m sure, through his collaboration with Logan) absurd plot developments like retconning Skyfall and Brothergate. He needs to be banned from Bond forever.
2. Waltz
Couldn’t get along with Mendes, turned in a less than stellar performance by his own admission. I honestly don’t know what Waltz has done that nears a fraction of the greatness of Inglourious Basterds. I’m not sure he really does have anything to offer a future Bond film. Also, Waltz’s Blofeld and everything surrounding that character left such a sour taste I’d rather not see any more of him.
3. Newman
I really would rather he not return, but he probably wouldn’t be completely awful in the hands of a saner director. Newman has said that with Spectre he was instructed to repeat cues from Skyfall so a chunk of the blame for Spectre’s score can even be laid at Mendes’s door.
4. Seydoux
An actress with both great looks and great talent. A character with potential. She doesn’t need to return, but in the hands of a better director she would be the very least objectionable to me.
I credit Mendes and DC for making Bond human in SF. You say "old dog," I say relateable character. You say "placid ornament" I say there are three bad ass fight scenes in SF and a PTS in SP that suggests Bond is anything but an "ornament."
For all its flaws, Spectre is still a better film than Brosnan's four, Dalton's two, and RM's last four.
Can't disagree with much of that.
I think you're mistaking Mendes and DC for Campbell and DC. CR already gave us a human Bond and bad ass fight scenes in spades. Let's not pretend Mendes was some kind of revolutionary innovator. In fact give Glen Deakins and Hoyte and saddle Mendes with the TV movie cinematography of LTK and his output doesn't look half as impressive. Mutton dressed as lamb.
Ill grant you die anothee day, moonraker, and a view to a kill, marginally I would add, but thats it. Twine beats sp imo.
Agree. I also agree Mendes movies are better than a lot of the other films, but so what. He’s incapable of making a CR, so I don’t want him anywhere near the next movie.