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It's James Bond pre-PC era, what do you expect? Dr. No, Goldfinger, You Only Live Twice and OHMSS all have racist moments. You can put LALD in there, too.
Women? Is this not James Bond we are talking about? Just about every early film has a "sexist scene" in it- "Dink, say goodbye to Felix, man talk" and all the rest of the Connery era bum slapping, you have bimbo Tiffany and her struggling to control a machine gun etc etc etc
Midgets? Early Bond films do have a record of depicting people with disabilities in a questionable light- they all seem to be villains!
Don't even get me started on the novels (you've read them, I should hope?)!
TMWTGG is no different, and it does not detract from its charm. It's not my favourite Moore Bond, but I can still get a lot from it. It's good fun. So stop putting words in people's mouths with comments like this "no, we can't pretend it's really a good movie".
Combined with a overly bad tempered Bond and grumpy M and it all seems like an uneven shambles.
I admit I do find MR entertaining despite it's utter stupidity.
That combined with Barry's in your face score make it very entertaining for me.
I would chose Spy over it though as I think it feels more like a SPY adventure rather than simply attractive decoration (plus Moore is better in Spy).
Some of the attitudes were a product of Fleming's time, and they should stay that way. He said women should "stay with their pots and pans" rather than being out in the field. Now, I don't necessarily wish for a "Bond equal" in every film, but that sort of attitude CAN'T exist from the protagonist in today's world. It's outdated.
Fleming was very good at creating cliches in order to antagonize the images of the respective parties. I wouldn´t necessarily call that racist.
It was not Fleming who said that, but Bond. Having a protagonist think or say something is not the same as expressing one´s own attitude or opinion. Of course it CAN exist in today´s world. It would underline the fact that Bond is not a hero on every level. Studios won´t have it for that reason.
I'm in complete agreement.
The worst offences as far as I'm concerned occured during PB's neutered era (scoffing at smoking, having to explain his behaviour to women etc.) and it started right at the beginning of his era, with the talking to/telling off by M and then the put downs by Natalya ("boys with toys"...."that's why you're alone") not to mention Bond's own affirming "yes sir". Jeez!
I have noticed a return to form during Craig's run (particularly in the early Vesper exchanges in Montenegro in the hotel and also very subtly in the put down exchanges with MP in SF.......I found it quite daring actually given she is a black woman....there is a risk of offending some).
I hope for more of this (subtly though) in SP.
Besides Dalton first said that line when Pam told him to get in the tanker after LTK.
Particularly after the 2nd film, where he basically was drinking himself under the table waiting for Paris. I could never imagine Moore or Connery doing that (even though Paris was meant to mean something to him). To me this was a different Bond to the one I grew up with (and who convincingly slapped behinds and wrapped bikinis around necks when required).
Craig's condescending behaviour towards Vesper was a return to the Bond I grew up with, but somewhat toned down for the 00's. The balance was right here.
I think the interaction between him and Solange got the balance right between sexism and political correctness.
Green plays Vesper so well and so intelligent that it's hard for any condescending remarks to stick. She's got too much "fire right back" dialogue.
Come on, we're all aware that the literary Bond was largely an avatar for Fleming to project his own views.
Look, the cinema has NEVER given us the true Fleming Bond. DN, FRWL, and Dalton's come closest IMHO, but let's understand that Bond, in movie form, is fluid, and subject to extensive change. Better to express one's favourites than to slate one's dislikes as junk.
Jeeze, when Beiber becomes Bond and orders a veggie-vitamin shake (not stirred) you guys will have a heart attack! :))
I'm personally fed up with these girly men. They are "playboys and tennis pros" to me. Bond is a real man, as Linda said in TLD.