I've never noticed that before...

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Here's a thing I've only just noticed: Bond's hotel in 'Venice' in Casino Royale is recognisably the same location as the embassy where the reception is taking place in Prague at the beginning of the first Mission: Impossible movie. Remember the place with all the staircases where Ethan and Kristin Scott Thomas go to catch the baddie stealing the disc? Daniel Craig's Bond walks down those as he's talking to the banker on the phone.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    I knew TSWLM was basically a remake of YOLT, and MR a remake of them both, but I didn't realize until a recent viewing just how closely MR tracks YOLT in parts:

    Hijacking of spacecraft = hijacking of shuttle
    Devious woman in hotel = devious woman in plane
    Little Nellie = boat chase
    Piranha = python (both with a metal bridge)
    etc.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    The narrative of MR is strong but the silliness overwhelms it one time too many.

    The soundtrack of FYEO has aged very poorly and almost sinks the film in parts, as opposed to that of TSWLM which is kitschy and fun.

    What kind of father nicknames his daughter "Octopussy"?
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Not sure but also not sure how you shoe horn in the title without it. :)
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    'October Debussy' was to be her actual name. There's even a concept sketch of a train carriage that says 'Debussy's Circus' on the side.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    I don't know any October jokes.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    I don't know any October jokes.
    Might've worked if she'd been red.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    Until recently, I didn't know Billy Strange had recorded an instrumental version of the You Only Live Twice arrangement he made for the vinyl single.



    I like it better than the version that came in the single (I don't care for the double tracking and I prefer the more intimate singing of the film version).
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    When Pierce walks down the steps to enter the abandoned station for abandoned agents, you hear a man say, "You said you were hungry," and a woman replies, "I know!"
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    I love those little conversations. My favourite is the one in TB when the man is explaining the loan to the couple.

    "We will pay back everything!"
    "There will be no need. We've secured certain third parties..."

    Guess SPECTRE wanted the tax deduction from their balance sheet. LOL!
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    I don't recall that conversation in DAD. I'll pay attention to it next time.

    The TB dialogue adds some color to the scene and makes the whole philanthropic stuff even more ironic considering SPECTRE HQ is inside the building.

    The other bit of dialogue that comes to mind immediately is "great sport, this punting!"
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
    edited July 2020 Posts: 5,420
    Yes another classic. They really don't have those moments in the later films. A shame really as it's a small way to bring in some colour. While Bond is scoping out Goldfinger in Miami there are some female voices having some gossip. Have never really been fully able to hear what was said but you get the feeling it's some upper class ladies digging dirt. LOL
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    echo wrote: »
    I knew TSWLM was basically a remake of YOLT, and MR a remake of them both, but I didn't realize until a recent viewing just how closely MR tracks YOLT in parts:

    Hijacking of spacecraft = hijacking of shuttle
    Devious woman in hotel = devious woman in plane
    Little Nellie = boat chase
    Piranha = python (both with a metal bridge)
    etc.

    Tomorrow Never Dies is also basically a TSWLM remake
    thedove wrote: »
    I love those little conversations. My favourite is the one in TB when the man is explaining the loan to the couple.

    "We will pay back everything!"
    "There will be no need. We've secured certain third parties..."

    Guess SPECTRE wanted the tax deduction from their balance sheet. LOL!

    I like it in TND when Gupta is saying to Carver's security guards 'I hate travelling I never know what to pack'.
  • edited July 2020 Posts: 17,753
    Only partly Bond film related, but earlier tonight I found several The Saint episodes available on Youtube, and I'm currently watching the season one episode The Careful Terrorist (1962). In Simon Templar's NY apartment, there are several framed ships prints I found very familiar…
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  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    ...the Glen bird cameo in AVTAK.
  • edited July 2020 Posts: 2,917
    earlier tonight I found several The Saint episodes available on Youtube, and I'm currently watching the season one episode The Careful Terrorist (1962). In Simon Templar's NY apartment, there are several framed ships prints I found very familiar…

    Your eye for detail never ceases to impress! So was this episode filmed at Pinewood?

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    Revelator wrote: »
    earlier tonight I found several The Saint episodes available on Youtube, and I'm currently watching the season one episode The Careful Terrorist (1962). In Simon Templar's NY apartment, there are several framed ships prints I found very familiar…

    Your eye for detail never ceases to impress! So was this episode filmed at Pinewood?

    Thanks! I had been looking so much for (and at) these prints when watching the films, that they immediately stood out when seeing them in The Saint. The only issue now is that I will be looking for more Bond related items whenever I get the chance to watch a Saint episode!

    I tried to Google and see if I could find some information about this particular episode, and if it had been filmed at Pinewood, but no luck there. From what I can see on Wikipedia, the whole series was shot at Associated British Elstree Studios (with very few location shots). Maybe Pinewood and Elstree Studios had the same sources for getting props/interior items?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    echo wrote: »
    What kind of father nicknames his daughter "Octopussy"?

    Haha! True, there's certainly a story to be told there (or maybe hushed up!) :D
    QBranch wrote: »
    'October Debussy' was to be her actual name. There's even a concept sketch of a train carriage that says 'Debussy's Circus' on the side.

    Is that true? I didn't know that.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    echo wrote: »
    I knew TSWLM was basically a remake of YOLT, and MR a remake of them both, but I didn't realize until a recent viewing just how closely MR tracks YOLT in parts:

    Hijacking of spacecraft = hijacking of shuttle
    Devious woman in hotel = devious woman in plane
    Little Nellie = boat chase
    Piranha = python (both with a metal bridge)
    etc.

    Tomorrow Never Dies is also basically a TSWLM remake

    Really they're all riffs on Thunderball, especially TSWLM: the natural sort of extrapolation of stealing some nuclear weapons is to steal the ships they're kept on. Stromberg even keeps them on his boat, just like Largo- except his boat is much bigger!
    To be honest I kind of think Kevin McClory had a point when he sued EON over TSWLM!
    Only partly Bond film related, but earlier tonight I found several The Saint episodes available on Youtube, and I'm currently watching the season one episode The Careful Terrorist (1962). In Simon Templar's NY apartment, there are several framed ships prints I found very familiar…
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    That's wonderful!
  • Posts: 17,753
    mtm wrote: »
    Only partly Bond film related, but earlier tonight I found several The Saint episodes available on Youtube, and I'm currently watching the season one episode The Careful Terrorist (1962). In Simon Templar's NY apartment, there are several framed ships prints I found very familiar…
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    That's wonderful!

    It will be funny if there are more of these!
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    Only partly Bond film related, but earlier tonight I found several The Saint episodes available on Youtube, and I'm currently watching the season one episode The Careful Terrorist (1962). In Simon Templar's NY apartment, there are several framed ships prints I found very familiar…
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    LNQjupc.png
    O586MJW.png
    aYlhSoc.png
    I56M9ZV.png

    Now I know these are on YouTube I think my 17th week (or whatever it is) on furlough is now sorted!
  • Posts: 17,753
    Only partly Bond film related, but earlier tonight I found several The Saint episodes available on Youtube, and I'm currently watching the season one episode The Careful Terrorist (1962). In Simon Templar's NY apartment, there are several framed ships prints I found very familiar…
    pr3vjTo.png
    LNQjupc.png
    O586MJW.png
    aYlhSoc.png
    I56M9ZV.png

    Now I know these are on YouTube I think my 17th week (or whatever it is) on furlough is now sorted!

    17 weeks? That's a long time. Hope everything sorts itself out, @BonSimonLeBon_1!

    Haven't checked if every single episode is available, but I intend to watch what I can before it is taken down again.
  • Posts: 2,436
    Only partly Bond film related, but earlier tonight I found several The Saint episodes available on Youtube, and I'm currently watching the season one episode The Careful Terrorist (1962). In Simon Templar's NY apartment, there are several framed ships prints I found very familiar…
    pr3vjTo.png
    LNQjupc.png
    O586MJW.png
    aYlhSoc.png
    I56M9ZV.png

    Now I know these are on YouTube I think my 17th week (or whatever it is) on furlough is now sorted!

    17 weeks? That's a long time. Hope everything sorts itself out, @BonSimonLeBon_1!

    Haven't checked if every single episode is available, but I intend to watch what I can before it is taken down again.

    Just counted it up -it's 18 weeks! It's looking like I'm going back in September.
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia
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    Two pieces from LTK
    Bond has his lighter from Felix and Della on the blackjack table. A little risky to put his close connection to Felix out of there given how fragile his cover is to begin with!

    Gogol and Fredrick Gray are both introduced in TSWLM and appear in every film through TLD; however, they don't complete the Dalton era with LTK. BUT... Geoffrey Keen did star in an imitation Bond film called Licensed to Love and Kill.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Pushkin in TLD was supposed to be Gogol.

    Ivanova in AVTAK was supposed to be Triple X.

    Paris in TND was supposed to be Natalya.

    There are others...interesting that we are finally getting a returning Bond girl in B25.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited August 2020 Posts: 16,369
    Gogol and Fredrick Gray are both introduced in TSWLM and appear in every film through TLD; however, they don't complete the Dalton era with LTK. BUT... Geoffrey Keen did star in an imitation Bond film called Licensed to Love and Kill.

    Which is always kind of crazy since he's the Minister of Defence, and yet Britain changed government in 1979 so he should have been out of the job then! You could say Bond lives in some alternate world, if it wasn't for the fact we actually saw Margaret Thatcher in FYEO! :D
    echo wrote: »
    Pushkin in TLD was supposed to be Gogol.

    Ivanova in AVTAK was supposed to be Triple X.

    Paris in TND was supposed to be Natalya.

    There are others...interesting that we are finally getting a returning Bond girl in B25.

    Yes indeed: Wai Lin was supposed to be in DAD, for example. If you pause the 'making of' on the disc in the right place you can even read some of the script pages which feature her.

    I didn't know about Natalya as Paris though. I'm not sure how I feel about that as that would have been an unhappy ending for her, which would have spoiled GoldenEye a bit retroactively I think.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    mtm wrote: »
    Gogol and Fredrick Gray are both introduced in TSWLM and appear in every film through TLD; however, they don't complete the Dalton era with LTK. BUT... Geoffrey Keen did star in an imitation Bond film called Licensed to Love and Kill.

    Which is always kind of crazy since he's the Minister of Defence, and yet Britain changed government in 1979 so he should have been out of the job then! You could say Bond lives in some alternate world, if it wasn't for the fact we actually saw Margaret Thatcher in FYEO! :D
    echo wrote: »
    Pushkin in TLD was supposed to be Gogol.

    Ivanova in AVTAK was supposed to be Triple X.

    Paris in TND was supposed to be Natalya.

    There are others...interesting that we are finally getting a returning Bond girl in B25.

    Yes indeed: Wai Lin was supposed to be in DAD, for example. If you pause the 'making of' on the disc in the right place you can even read some of the script pages which feature her.

    I didn't know about Natalya as Paris though. I'm not sure how I feel about that as that would have been an unhappy ending for her, which would have spoiled GoldenEye a bit retroactively I think.

    Yes, the Gogol and XXX cameos would have been better, in terms of giving them a more upbeat story.
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    I was having a look at this still from CR earlier. Where have I seen that painting on the wall, and that frame before?

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    Of course, in Tracy's hotel room in OHMSS!

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  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia
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    Wow, tremendous spot @Torgeirtrap !
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    Nice find, especially considering the amount of years between the films.
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