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  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    I was always under the impression that Wedding Crashers was the first film to feature a former Bond villain (Walken) and former Bond girl (Seymour). Not true...

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  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    Posts: 7,021
    mattjoes wrote: »
    While posing as a car rental employee, Quentin got a little carried away with the ruthlessness required for the job.

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    "You call yourself an AVIS employee, you son of a bitch?"

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    Well done :))
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    Posts: 7,021
    mattjoes wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    While posing as a car rental employee, Quentin got a little carried away with the ruthlessness required for the job.

    URRNty2.png


    "You call yourself an AVIS employee, you son of a bitch?"

    zgA9YMI.png

    Well done :))

    How pathetic do you have to be to give praise to your own post...
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    Posts: 7,021
    mattjoes wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    While posing as a car rental employee, Quentin got a little carried away with the ruthlessness required for the job.

    URRNty2.png


    "You call yourself an AVIS employee, you son of a bitch?"

    zgA9YMI.png

    Well done :))

    How pathetic do you have to be to give praise to your own post...

    I agree. Kick him out!
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited December 2022 Posts: 14,568
    mattjoes wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    While posing as a car rental employee, Quentin got a little carried away with the ruthlessness required for the job.

    URRNty2.png


    "You call yourself an AVIS employee, you son of a bitch?"

    zgA9YMI.png

    Well done :))

    How pathetic do you have to be to give praise to your own post...

    I agree. Kick him out!
    *Q laughter*
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,133
    Quit the spamming thanks @mattjoes
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    During my annual Christmas watch of OHMSS, I realized that the sound was better on this particular TV.

    I didn't realize there were gongs during the Bond safebreaking/Campbell sequence, and also there were thwangy/rope noises just after the birds harass Campbell.

    Poor Campbell.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited January 2023 Posts: 3,787
    I never noticed that in all of the Bonds, it's Roger Moore who's the same age as Lois Maxwell, both of them are both born in the year of 1927.

    But, it's Lois Maxwell who looked older than Roger Moore, Moore looked younger than Lois Maxwell, even the voice, she sounded a lot more older than Moore.

    I watched Moonraker and she looked Moore's older sister.
  • GetCarterGetCarter
    edited January 2023 Posts: 386
    I am no doubt very late to the party on this, but it is with much bemusement that I watch YOLT these days.

    Connery’s performance … it really is something. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a major movie star phone in to such a degree.

    I retrospectively feel bad for all the support players who enthusiastically dive into what is probably the dumbest Bond narrative, only to be stone-walled by Connery’s blank expression. Must’ve been a dispiriting shoot.

    I don’t know what happened between TB and YOLT - was this when Sean started falling out with Cubby?

    Even more amazing than Sean’s utterly comatose performance is the fact they asked him back for DAF (where he was thankfully more than a walking corpse).

    Box office always wins I suppose.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,367
    He is disengaged and yet… he’s still pretty good, and has a bit of a twinkle here and there. He’s that good that even a disinterested performance is better than Lazenby’s best stab at it.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    mtm wrote: »
    He is disengaged and yet… he’s still pretty good, and has a bit of a twinkle here and there. He’s that good that even a disinterested performance is better than Lazenby’s best stab at it.

    Although I disagree, a disinterested performance is still the worst that an actor could give, any actor.
    If an actor was engaged in an performance then that's the best.

    So, no, Lazenby's engaged in the role, Connery still gave his mediocre performance in it, even Moore in AVTAK was still better than Connery in YOLT.
  • BT3366BT3366
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    Is it really Connery's effort or is it Roald Dahl's YOLT script that led to his less-than-compelling performance? You can tell the film suffers from not having Richard Maibaum involved for the first time in the series to this point and Dahl having a crash course in the series to get him familiar with it.

    The emphasis is on the gadgets, action and sets, with fewer interesting performers to play off of. The volcano base should get its own co-star credit. So there's just not that much for Connery's Bond to do except to move from action scene to action scene, vehicle to vehicle. There are some good moments such as the Henderson interaction, the scene in Osato's office and the charming of Ms. Brandt in her cabin that evoke the classic Connery Bond. It also didn't help transforming him into a Japanese fisherman for part of the film.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    edited January 2023 Posts: 13,779
    With those and more I take it as the unfortunate lineup of events.

    The pursuit to film OHMSS obstructed by weather and other conflicts. And the zenith of Bond mania had TB driving the next Bond movie content over how to best film an available Fleming novel. That must have been disappointing.

    And with Connery's performance, his dissatisfaction for not being a true partner in it all or even properly compensated. Then the Japan experience with their brash and at times insulting media attention during filming. Maybe even culture shock for a Scot suddenly injected into Japan.

    To be fair to Roald Dahl, by that point the boardroom style of script development seems to be in full force. He absorbed a lot of content with items from the novel alongside Little Nellie, Q showing up on site, more. That goes back to the producers I'm thinking. And overall unfortunately absent the necessary OHMSS backstory.

    Quite a confluence. Over the years I've taken the point as awesome as it was the DB5 ejector seat triggered what came with TB and after for good and bad. There's truth in that. The films at times become an assembly of interesting parts, seeking approval.

    I actually don't have a problem with Connery's performance, at the same time there's a noticeable change of course going on.

  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    I have changed my opinion on YOLT and Connery's performance. I agree with some who say it's more the script that anything that Connery does or doesn't do in this film. Dahl was instructed what to put in the film. Bond must sleep with X amount of girls, he must do this, etc. After hyping TB as the BIGGEST Bond of all the producers had no where to go but bigger. Scaling back to a more character driven film would not have been well received. Also for the first time EON had competition with CR 67 and while that wasn't a serious threat, there was still a chance the public might get confused as to which bond was official.

    The advertising of the film emphasized Connery going so far to declare Sean Connery IS James Bond. I think Connery is the least of the issues with this film. The wardrobe is a bit suspect for Bond. Connery looks less than stellar and the suits don't look as clean or as proper as previous films. The turning Japanese section of the film hasn't aged well and is really needed. Lots of time spent on a fake wedding. I would have rather that go towards some character development or some more scenes between Blofeld and Bond in the volcano.
  • GetCarterGetCarter
    edited January 2023 Posts: 386
    thedove wrote: »
    I have changed my opinion on YOLT and Connery's performance. I agree with some who say it's more the script that anything that Connery does or doesn't do in this film. Dahl was instructed what to put in the film. Bond must sleep with X amount of girls, he must do this, etc. After hyping TB as the BIGGEST Bond of all the producers had no where to go but bigger. Scaling back to a more character driven film would not have been well received. Also for the first time EON had competition with CR 67 and while that wasn't a serious threat, there was still a chance the public might get confused as to which bond was official.

    The advertising of the film emphasized Connery going so far to declare Sean Connery IS James Bond. I think Connery is the least of the issues with this film. The wardrobe is a bit suspect for Bond. Connery looks less than stellar and the suits don't look as clean or as proper as previous films. The turning Japanese section of the film hasn't aged well and is really needed. Lots of time spent on a fake wedding. I would have rather that go towards some character development or some more scenes between Blofeld and Bond in the volcano.

    Re: Connery and his YOLT wardrobe, he ate well 1964-67 and a certain flabbiness is apparent. All the bedroom / bathing scenes are strictly chest-up.

    By DAF it’s all over, red rover. Unlike today’s elfin, waifish men, Connery looked 40 when he was 30 (and still handsome).

  • GetCarterGetCarter
    edited January 2023 Posts: 386
    BT3366 wrote: »
    Is it really Connery's effort or is it Roald Dahl's YOLT script that led to his less-than-compelling performance? You can tell the film suffers from not having Richard Maibaum involved for the first time in the series to this point and Dahl having a crash course in the series to get him familiar with it.

    The emphasis is on the gadgets, action and sets, with fewer interesting performers to play off of. The volcano base should get its own co-star credit. So there's just not that much for Connery's Bond to do except to move from action scene to action scene, vehicle to vehicle. There are some good moments such as the Henderson interaction, the scene in Osato's office and the charming of Ms. Brandt in her cabin that evoke the classic Connery Bond. It also didn't help transforming him into a Japanese fisherman for part of the film.

    At one point Bond scoffs “ninjas?” to Tanaka. I don’t think he was acting, ha ha.

    I don’t think he cared for the script at all, but if various accounts of Connery the person are true, then his perception of injustice regarding his compensation would’ve absolutely ate at him from within and killed his enthusiasm for Bond outright.

    At least until he was made a godfather offer for DAF.

  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited January 2023 Posts: 3,787
    Just a question, in the unmade third Dalton Film draft (the second one), the villain was meant to be a veteran/former 00 agent who went rogue and probably Bond's mentor.

    This was played out in Goldeneye, but instead it's just a fellow 00 agent who's the same age as Bond himself and a friend.

    I think they've used some of that draft in Skyfall with Silva, a former 00 agent, veteran, older than Bond who went rogue (the only thing that's missing was him being Bond's mentor).

    What do you think about this?
    I've just noticed it.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    @MI6HQ this thread is more about observations about the films that were made. Either Easter Eggs, or things that caught your eye that you hadn't seen before. I believe there is a thread dedicated to Bond 17 somewhere. :)

  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    Posts: 9,026
    Takeaway from my recent search for a Geoguesser location: The guy, apparently named Hugo Bower (which is all that IMDb knows about him) who plays the driver in Octopussy who takes M and Bond to Checkpoint Charlie, is a candidate for the hammiest performance of just two words ever when he turns around in the driver seat and says "No problem!" (1:22:03 into the movie).
  • CharmianBondCharmianBond Pett Bottom, Kent
    Posts: 557
    Something I noticed on first reading Casino Royale and then Double or Nothing, in the latter the list of the dead Double O agents: Donovan, Ventnor, Mace, Savarin and Elizabeth Dumont are taken from the 'Dossier for M' chapter in Casino where they were double agents who fell victim to SMERSH. As is Harthrop-Vane, except he's very much still alive although I did get the sense there was something off about him so I wonder whether that's a little clue to where the series is heading.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited February 2023 Posts: 3,787
    Never thought of this before About Maurice Binder, the models in the Title Sequences.


    Looking into the Thunderballs site looking for Behind the scenes photos of each Bond film, just noticed that they're (Maurice Binder) using real nude women for Title Sequences!

    Edit: for NSFW, I didn't showed it as an image or picture in this forum, you can just open those links if you want 😊 Thank you! These pictures were including sensitive contents!

    The Man With The Golden Gun (1974)

    1. https://static.wixstatic.com/media/31b808_a0d1851c2cf44167b30ebc2ee2162a37~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_640,h_896,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01,enc_auto/31b808_a0d1851c2cf44167b30ebc2ee2162a37~mv2.jpg

    2. https://static.wixstatic.com/media/31b808_cd4edccfdec84136afa89d33cbb59ff3~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_640,h_896,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01,enc_auto/31b808_cd4edccfdec84136afa89d33cbb59ff3~mv2.jpg
    3.
    https://static.wixstatic.com/media/31b808_b4799b8723a5400caa1eacd210ff0ace~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_640,h_896,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01,enc_auto/31b808_b4799b8723a5400caa1eacd210ff0ace~mv2.jpg

    4. https://static.wixstatic.com/media/31b808_cc23d01346b740529be713866ee60730~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_640,h_896,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01,enc_auto/31b808_cc23d01346b740529be713866ee60730~mv2.jpg

    5. https://static.wixstatic.com/media/31b808_e2474e5a56634df283e6f34dc2de4bbd~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_640,h_896,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01,enc_auto/31b808_e2474e5a56634df283e6f34dc2de4bbd~mv2.jpg

    The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)

    1. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52678229152_ce46a7ac6b_b.jpg

    2. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52678741731_1247bb0cc9_b.jpg


    A View To A Kill (1985)

    1. https://static.wixstatic.com/media/31b808_9ca7d77746b3467b8a51a3e721762c90~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_640,h_438,al_c,q_80,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01,enc_auto/31b808_9ca7d77746b3467b8a51a3e721762c90~mv2.jpg



    Never thought of these before, they've really done it!

    Oh, Maurice Binder! 😆
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    ...what did you think they did instead?
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    I enjoyed the images you linked, @MI6HQ (yes, I did!), but I have always thought Binder must have used actually nude women for his credits sequences. Whom or what else? Which is also why it became a bit tiresome, and it was okay that the franchise moved away from those set-ups.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited February 2023 Posts: 3,787
    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    I enjoyed the images you linked, @MI6HQ (yes, I did!), but I have always thought Binder must have used actually nude women for his credits sequences. Whom or what else? Which is also why it became a bit tiresome, and it was okay that the franchise moved away from those set-ups.

    I liked that the franchise had already moved on from these kind of set ups, and I think that makes it for the better.

    These kind of set ups were for me, so much prone to sexual assaults 😅.

    To be honest, seeing these pictures leaves a bit of bad taste in my mouth really, like everytime I'm seeing those Binder sequences, I may be thinking of the process that he'd done.
    LucknFate wrote: »
    ...what did you think they did instead?

    Now that's something we have no knowledge yet. 😅

    But like what I've said in the former post, these set ups were probably more prone to sexual assaults, so possibly, when some of them didn't speak because of bribe or maybe the fear of speaking up, it's not impossible to happen, given what situation they're in.

    It may have turned good on screen, but the process of making it, let's say, didn't aged well.
  • RevelatorRevelator
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    From what I've heard Maurice Binder was a gentleman--if he'd gotten up to anything wrong we'd probably have heard about it by now (as in the case of Terence Young). The use of nudes in the Bond titles was as professional and tasteful as the use of nudes in a life drawing class. I never found them tiresome--like the gunbarrel they were a tradition, and I'd rather see them than more CGI fantasyscapes.
  • RevelatorRevelator
    edited February 2023 Posts: 2,917
    I'm also surprised that folks didn't know the models were nude--I assumed everyone had heard a version of this Binder anecdote:
    There was a dancer--Carolyn Cheshire...she was very good and all nude for Man With the Golden Gun. I used some rippling water, which covered her body, so we got away with that, but when she danced around sideways, some inappropriate hair stuck out. She wouldn't shave. I said, "Carolyn, we must do something." She said, "Brush it down! Use Vaseline! Do whatever you want to do, but I'm not shaving." So I said, "Give me that brush and let's try it." There I was, brushing away, when suddenly I felt something behind me. At that time, they were shooting the film itself on the next stage. Anyhow, I looked around, and there are Cubby Broccoli and Roger Moore. Cubby looked down on me, standing before Carolyn with my brush, and said, "Look, I'm the producer of this picture. Are you sure we're paying you for this?"
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited February 2023 Posts: 3,787
    Revelator wrote: »
    I'm also surprised that folks didn't know the models were nude--I assumed everyone had heard a version of this Binder anecdote:
    There was a dancer--Carolyn Cheshire...she was very good and all nude for Man With the Golden Gun. I used some rippling water, which covered her body, so we got away with that, but when she danced around sideways, some inappropriate hair stuck out. She wouldn't shave. I said, "Carolyn, we must do something." She said, "Brush it down! Use Vaseline! Do whatever you want to do, but I'm not shaving." So I said, "Give me that brush and let's try it." There I was, brushing away, when suddenly I felt something behind me. At that time, they were shooting the film itself on the next stage. Anyhow, I looked around, and there are Cubby Broccoli and Roger Moore. Cubby looked down on me, standing before Carolyn with my brush, and said, "Look, I'm the producer of this picture. Are you sure we're paying you for this?"

    That's quite a bit sensitive 😅 .....

    But they could wear something like tight skin colored bodysuit right?
    Or something like a morph suit.

    Look at this: https://google.com/search?q=tight+skin+colored+bodysuit&client=tablet-android-samsung&prmd=sivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiQ89Odr4r9AhXb3GEKHU8KBHMQ_AUoAnoECAIQAg&biw=600&bih=1024&dpr=1#imgrc=B6m-_c6eSt48FM


    Why bare nude?
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    Posts: 1,644
    Because it's art! Take an art class! haha
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    Posts: 3,787
    LucknFate wrote: »
    Because it's art! Take an art class! haha

    Yes, it needs to be an art to the point of putting a Vaseline on your ***** and brush it :)) :)) :))
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,133
    MI6HQ wrote: »
    Revelator wrote: »
    I'm also surprised that folks didn't know the models were nude--I assumed everyone had heard a version of this Binder anecdote:
    There was a dancer--Carolyn Cheshire...she was very good and all nude for Man With the Golden Gun. I used some rippling water, which covered her body, so we got away with that, but when she danced around sideways, some inappropriate hair stuck out. She wouldn't shave. I said, "Carolyn, we must do something." She said, "Brush it down! Use Vaseline! Do whatever you want to do, but I'm not shaving." So I said, "Give me that brush and let's try it." There I was, brushing away, when suddenly I felt something behind me. At that time, they were shooting the film itself on the next stage. Anyhow, I looked around, and there are Cubby Broccoli and Roger Moore. Cubby looked down on me, standing before Carolyn with my brush, and said, "Look, I'm the producer of this picture. Are you sure we're paying you for this?"

    That's quite a bit sensitive 😅 .....

    But they could wear something like tight skin colored bodysuit right?
    Or something like a morph suit.

    Look at this: https://google.com/search?q=tight+skin+colored+bodysuit&client=tablet-android-samsung&prmd=sivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiQ89Odr4r9AhXb3GEKHU8KBHMQ_AUoAnoECAIQAg&biw=600&bih=1024&dpr=1#imgrc=B6m-_c6eSt48FM


    Why bare nude?

    I don't think they had skin coloured body suits or morph suits back in the 70's or 80's.
    As for being sensitive, I don't think it can be, if you yourself post the link to the image,
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