Where does Bond go after Craig?

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  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    SIS_HQ wrote: »

    Nice nod to Fleming in TLD, Saunders referring to Bond as old man and Bond taking a dislike to him. Similar to Fleming's 6th rule.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    SIS_HQ wrote: »

    Nice nod to Fleming in TLD, Saunders referring to Bond as old man and Bond taking a dislike to him. Similar to Fleming's 6th rule.

    'Live Until You're Dead' would almost make a good Bond title, if it didn't sound slightly obvious and trite.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    @mtm it does doesn't it, I could see that being a Pierce Bond film.
    It would make a great tag line for a Bond film
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited April 2023 Posts: 16,383
    Yeah that's true, it would. I'm almost surprised IFP haven't used it for a novel or something.
  • edited April 2023 Posts: 1,986
    Everyone lives until they are dead. Not seeing this as unique.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    "in Ian Fleming's YOU ONLY LIVE UNTIL YOU'RE DEAD"
    "in Ian Fleming's DEATH IS THE END OF LIFE"
    "in Ian Fleming's FIRST YOU LIVE, THEN YOU DIE"
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited April 2023 Posts: 3,789
    "In Ian Fleming's DIE AND LIVE!"
    "In Ian Fleming's LIVING AND THE DEAD"
    "In Ian Fleming's DEAD OF THE LIVING"
    "In Ian Fleming's DEAD AND THE LIVING "
    "In Ian Fleming's THE LIVING DEAD" :))
    "In Ian Fleming's LIFE AND DEATH"
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    "In Ian Fleming's LIVING TO DIE"
    "In Ian Fleming's DYING TO LIVE"
    "In Ian Fleming's LIVING NOW, DEAD LATER"
    "In Ian Fleming's NO TIME TO DIE BECAUSE I'M LIVING"
    "In Ian Fleming's LIVE LIKE THERE'S NO TOMORROW BECAUSE YOU'LL BE DEAD ANYWAY"
    "In John Gardner's DEADLIFE"
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited April 2023 Posts: 16,383
    CrabKey wrote: »
    Everyone lives until they are dead. Not seeing this as unique.

    It’s him just rephrasing the ‘I shall use my time’ saying he liked basically, although it is a bit trite and open to misinterpretation, yes. He didn’t actually intend it as a title so I wouldn’t worry too much about it.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Just as an update:

    I said the WGA vote would be 98%…

    None of this is good, but some media companies wouldn’t mind a strike, as the article states, so it can kill deals and save $$$. So you have some bad agents involved and it’s clear nothing will be resolved.


    I’m praying for a Hail Mary.

    The project I’m on (I’ve adapted the novel The Therapist by BA Paris (fun psychological drama-thriller)), is in danger of starting later than anticipated— and that’s the best case at the moment…

    https://deadline.com/2023/04/potential-strike-impact-on-business-in-hollywood-1235329823/

  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    peter wrote: »
    Just as an update:

    I said the WGA vote would be 98%…

    None of this is good, but some media companies wouldn’t mind a strike, as the article states, so it can kill deals and save $$$. So you have some bad agents involved and it’s clear nothing will be resolved.


    I’m praying for a Hail Mary.

    The project I’m on (I’ve adapted the novel The Therapist by BA Paris (fun psychological drama-thriller)), is in danger of starting later than anticipated— and that’s the best case at the moment…

    https://deadline.com/2023/04/potential-strike-impact-on-business-in-hollywood-1235329823/

    Is your.. how you say... funding secured for all eventualities? Or do you get screwed.
  • Posts: 1,986
    mtm wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    Everyone lives until they are dead. Not seeing this as unique.

    It’s him just rephrasing the ‘I shall use my time’ saying he liked basically, although it is a bit trite and open to misinterpretation, yes. He didn’t actually intend it as a title so I wouldn’t worry too much about it.

    It's a comment. Not a worry.

  • peterpeter Toronto
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Just as an update:

    I said the WGA vote would be 98%…

    None of this is good, but some media companies wouldn’t mind a strike, as the article states, so it can kill deals and save $$$. So you have some bad agents involved and it’s clear nothing will be resolved.


    I’m praying for a Hail Mary.

    The project I’m on (I’ve adapted the novel The Therapist by BA Paris (fun psychological drama-thriller)), is in danger of starting later than anticipated— and that’s the best case at the moment…

    https://deadline.com/2023/04/potential-strike-impact-on-business-in-hollywood-1235329823/

    Is your.. how you say... funding secured for all eventualities? Or do you get screwed.

    @LucknFate … thanks for asking… The producer is a warrior and she’s working round the clock because her goal is to get in front of cameras in late summer/early Fall… This now may be a tough ask as everything is grinding to a halt.

    If we are delayed, the can gets kicked down the road and once the dust settles on a strike, every project like ours will be fighting for not just the talent in front of the camera, but ALL the talent behind it (think lighting, make up, wardrobe, DPs…), the locations and studios spaces to be rented… it’s a mess that will be felt for a while, as I told our dear Red Snow…

    Would the delay affect our financing? That is a very real possibility on all projects that don’t include those big, huge IPs (and even then, some of them may get lost in all of this). It’s not a happy time and truth be told every morning I wake up with a groan…

  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited April 2023 Posts: 1,646
    @peter Well I hope for the best and it sounds like you have a dedicated team. Had you been planning on beginning to explore or pivot to a new project or had anything else in the works that may get messed up? Or does this sort of project tie you up
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited April 2023 Posts: 4,629
    peter wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Just as an update:

    I said the WGA vote would be 98%…

    None of this is good, but some media companies wouldn’t mind a strike, as the article states, so it can kill deals and save $$$. So you have some bad agents involved and it’s clear nothing will be resolved.


    I’m praying for a Hail Mary.

    The project I’m on (I’ve adapted the novel The Therapist by BA Paris (fun psychological drama-thriller)), is in danger of starting later than anticipated— and that’s the best case at the moment…

    https://deadline.com/2023/04/potential-strike-impact-on-business-in-hollywood-1235329823/

    Is your.. how you say... funding secured for all eventualities? Or do you get screwed.

    @LucknFate … thanks for asking… The producer is a warrior and she’s working round the clock because her goal is to get in front of cameras in late summer/early Fall… This now may be a tough ask as everything is grinding to a halt.

    If we are delayed, the can gets kicked down the road and once the dust settles on a strike, every project like ours will be fighting for not just the talent in front of the camera, but ALL the talent behind it (think lighting, make up, wardrobe, DPs…), the locations and studios spaces to be rented… it’s a mess that will be felt for a while, as I told our dear Red Snow…

    Would the delay affect our financing? That is a very real possibility on all projects that don’t include those big, huge IPs (and even then, some of them may get lost in all of this). It’s not a happy time and truth be told every morning I wake up with a groan…

    Best of luck @peter my friend. I know personally that media business can tough to work in but it’s almost always worth it in the end. There’s always lessons to be learned. Good luck, we’re all proud of you.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited April 2023 Posts: 9,509
    Thanks @LucknFate … my fingers are crossed that if and when the strike hits, the producer has enough elements in place to go and film (she is interviewing four directors at the moment, and if she hires one shortly, I could theoretically get a polish draft into them before May 2 (the script really is very tight), and give notes to the director incase s/he need to do any rewrites on set (I won’t be allowed to visit the filming)).

    I have a couple of projects in early stages— chatting with a producer and a director about doing them, and I’m always writing some kind of spec. But since last November, The Therapist has been my primary focus and is the furthest along.

    @MaxCasino — thank you!! You’re very nice and I appreciate the kind words!!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Good luck with everything Peter. Like you say, the delay meaning a bottleneck when it's lifted for all facilities and staff is something one doesn't think of but must be a real concern. I believe it was like that post-Covid as well, wasn't it?
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    mtm wrote: »
    Good luck with everything Peter. Like you say, the delay meaning a bottleneck when it's lifted for all facilities and staff is something one doesn't think of but must be a real concern. I believe it was like that post-Covid as well, wasn't it?

    Thanks @mtm!! And you're correct, coming out of covid, there were many delays and bottlenecks... and this is why this feels like a real kicker: just as the industry is climbing out of post-covid, it gets hit with this potential strike.

  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    You know, being a member of the MI6 Community isn't all fun and elimination games. When I'm not bickering bitterly about the things I hate about my favorite film series, or choosing my most and least favorite animals to ever appear in these movies, I sometimes find it difficult to articulate my detailed thoughts and feelings on such character, such plot point or such Bond death scene. That's why I now use ChatGPT to do the work for me. It's fast, it's easy, and it allows me to fulfill my obligations as a forum member faster than you can say "James Bond will return, but it won't be Daniel Craig's Bond, because these films are set in a floating timeline with loose continuity, so we might just as well call them sci-fi movies".

    The proof is in the pudding. Let ChatGPT speak for me.

    Where does Bond go after Craig?

    After Daniel Craig's tenure as James Bond, the future of the Bond franchise is uncertain. The production company, EON Productions, has not yet announced who will be the next actor to play the iconic spy.

    There has been much speculation and discussion about who might take over the role, with actors such as Tom Hardy, Idris Elba, and Richard Madden among the rumored contenders. However, nothing has been confirmed at this time.

    It's also unclear what direction the Bond franchise will take after Craig. The most recent films have been more character-driven and grounded in reality than some of the earlier entries in the series. It's possible that the next Bond films will continue down this path, or they could return to the more over-the-top action and gadgets that characterized earlier entries in the series.

    Regardless of what direction the franchise takes, it's likely that the Bond films will continue to be a popular and enduring part of the cultural landscape for many years to come.

    Thanks, ChatGPT, you've done it again!
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    @mattjoes. I love this Everything that's already been said by humans on the various threads on this site. I am certifying myself (a human) as the generator of this content.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    I wonder if Richard Madden really wants the role and Citadel is his Layer Cake to an extent. Not in terms of comparing the show/film, but the one that makes the producers really consider him.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    @mattjoes. I love this Everything that's already been said by humans on the various threads on this site. I am certifying myself (a human) as the generator of this content.

    I wish we could copyright our posts and then make money off them when things like ChatGPT use them.
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    "Be patient with yourself, stay committed to the character, and keep practicing until you feel confident in your portrayal."
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    I wonder if Richard Madden really wants the role and Citadel is his Layer Cake to an extent. Not in terms of comparing the show/film, but the one that makes the producers really consider him.

    I think it looks too lightweight for that, though obviously I don’t know. Bodyguard I personally thought was stupid, but it was successful enough critically and commercially to get people talking about Madden being Bond, so I’m sure he’s already on Eon’s radar.

    Moving away from talking about Madden, I think the Ezra Miller and Jonathan Majors scandals will mean Eon will put greater scrutiny into their candidates’ private behaviour, and that may mean that their choice will be shaped by things we’re unaware of and that don’t have to do with the qualities the performer has on-screen.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    I wonder if Richard Madden really wants the role and Citadel is his Layer Cake to an extent. Not in terms of comparing the show/film, but the one that makes the producers really consider him.

    I think it looks too lightweight for that, though obviously I don’t know. Bodyguard I personally thought was stupid, but was successful enough critically and commercially to get people talking about him being Bond, I’m sure he’s already on Eon’s radar.

    I think the Ezra Miller and Jonathan Majors scandals will mean Eon will put greater scrutiny into their candidates’ private behaviour, and that may mean that their choice will be shaped by things we’re unaware of and that don’t have to do with the qualities the performer has on-screen.

    Same with DC’s wrist cutting comments. I hope even Barbara told him that was wrong.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    I read the wrist-slashing comment as a good-humoured joke about how tired he was from the work, but yes, he should have been aware with print journalism comments can be taken in ways you don’t intend and chosen his words more carefully.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I don't think it's anything like the Miller situation, but was certainly a mistake as so many people don't understand a joke.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited April 2023 Posts: 3,152
    Thing is, most reports edited out Dan's first words, which were 'What, now?' It was a blatant joke (and a good one), but the press fitted him up by editing it to change the whole meaning from not making another film immediately to not doing another one, ever.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited April 2023 Posts: 16,383
    The weird thing is that people still hold a grudge against him for saying it, even though it's been pointed out that it was a joke and what the context was. It shows the bizarre power of the printed word: it's a bit like baby chicks in cartoons having their mother being imprinted as the first cartoon cat they see- they read something in print and they adopt that as the truth no matter what.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Especially when they already have a bias against the actor; they relish taking an opportunity like this to say this is The Gospel… The wrist-slashing quote has been brought up on this site to prove what a dink Craig is, how he only does things for the cash, how he hates the character of Bond…
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