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I take you'll continue to call Bond 26 Bond 26 forever?
You’re right @talos7 . I’m a broken record here; I keep saying the same things, but some people want to live in some kind of perpetual anger with Barbara Broccoli.
I said this just last week: If they made an announcement every time there was movement on a project, it’d be like forcing us to watch paint dry for the next three years.
Yes, there was more chatter before the strikes, and less now. Personally, I believe that that’s because during the half a year of strikes, I think they’re taking a new tact, and therefore circled back to the first few steps of development.
To think that nothing’s going on is just silly. And I can assure you as well (and actually I think you may’ve seen the text I received), they have been hands-on with the series and the video game (this did surprise me, since I thought they were basically licensing out the Bond brand based off the films and just let those creatives take it from there; I was wrong, and it shows how invested they are in NOT just handing over EoN’s Bond to ANYONE. It’s their property and they will see it done properly).
MI flopped. I'm sure that was a red flag for them.
What are you calling it?
I wish I had the interview/post, so feel free to disregard this, but I remember years ago reading a thing (I think by one of the Activision people?) that mentioned EON felt the games were getting too violent and diluting the quality. It doesn't surprise me to hear how hands-on they've been with the game.
Bond 26, of course. Since it follows Bond 25, a Film Which Has No Other Title Whatsoever.
I think a lot of people online these days actually enjoy being upset about something and social media has exploited that. To feel indignant makes one feel righteous in their anger towards Eon, LucasFilm, Marvel, whatever else you wanna bring up. Opinions are no longer just opinions but now weaponized to whine all over the internet about how things are worse than ever. It’s a social media of hyperbole, and even MI6-HQ has been guilty of that putting out articles of how upsetting it is that Eon is not churning out films as if it’s still the sausage factory of the John Glen era.
No, just directed at fandom.
That's very interesting; I can see why they may have had that concern. The Bond of video games does tend to murder a lot more people than the film version! :)
That’s more an example where they rushed things arguably.
Was Brofeld a rush job? Or a bad idea that should never have been allowed.
This isn't taking their time. Working on something for a long time is quite different from "several years later we haven't even started thinking about it."
No getting around the fact that Brofeld was one of the worst ideas of the entire series. How did Eon ever allow this to go forward? No matter who's idea it was.
I think that was a cry for retirement.
Well, sorry for the late reply.
Well, it's that she's conceived as Bond's equal, a tough one? Well, I expect her to be like that, heck, you even have Wai Lin doing physical fights.
I don't see any qualities that makes her that so called "one of the best agents Russia could offer", let alone "Bond's Russian Equivalent", just like Christmas Jones, not believable.
It's not a Marvel Thing, you're sent to a mission, one may expect you to do your job well done, not to be incompetent and just be a passive version of Mary Goodnight, or just Solitaire turned into an agent kind of thing.
Holly Goodhead for me did it better with all of her skills shown, making Wai Lin her successor.
I'm wondering why they've supported that idea, no?
They could've rejected it, heck, they've denied an idea from Danny Boyle which was far more interesting than the one MGW got (that Brofeld).
Just because out of their respect for MGW because he's a Co-Producer?
Sure, he proposed that idea, but they had the choice not to include it in the final script and reject it.
But why they've still included it in the script?
And I hope they'll continue not being concerned over "fans". I don't like the foster brother plot either, but I still want every next film to try something new, something we haven't seen before. And in the past fifteen or so years, it's become obvious to me that many - not all! - fans simply want stuff they've already seen and are comfortable with...
... only to bash a film when it actually does the same things again. ;))
We're a difficult lot. ;-)
I want to see some different and unique stuffs too, as long as it's not:
* Top far from the Bond standards (the Brofeld idea went too far from it)
* Executed well (Bond having a kid and dying in NTTD are both different ideas that I have no problem about, it's just that, they're not executed well, or at least how the script handled those ideas).
I liked both OHMSS and LTK, and it's showed the different side of Bond without veering too far away and executing it well, even TWINE's idea of making Elektra a main villain, even Skyfall of killing M, and it's the only film that handled that trope of "a villain coming back from the past to haunt a character" type of thing, successfully, the next two are very much a repeated steps and failed.
I liked them trying something new, as long as they would pass the criteria above.
It was like Sherlock Holmes pastiche. Moriarty is Holmes father or something like that.
It kind of is though: it’s just an extension of the Fleming plot of Octopussy: Bond goes after the murderer of his childhood mentor. Once that is in place then making the killer the mentor’s son isn’t really changing much about the Fleming story. And once you’ve done that, then giving him a familiar name isn’t much of a leap either. I can see how it seemed like a reasonable idea.
They’re not real women though; they’re not actually making their own decisions.
At the time of their releases, OHMSS and LTK were thought by some to be veering too far off from where Bond had gone before.
I remember hearing of a time when OHMSS was considered the black sheep of the franchise. Not just because of being a Lazenby one off, but there were audiences that thought the idea of Bond getting married was ridiculous for the series. Sure, it’s directly from Fleming, but most audiences that watch Bond never picked up a book. Only a few of us Bond nerds have, And for many years OHMSS had a terrible reputation that didn’t start to turn around until DVD.
Exactly. And the first time the film was shown on ABC in 1976, it was completely butchered just to fit their available time slots. The chronology of events was screwed up and a voice-over narration was added. This film was not at all treated with the same respect it enjoys today.
NSNA has terrible reputation and it has more Fleming than all Brosnan movies put together.
Even if that were true, the movie Bond is not necessarily the Fleming Bond. Books are books; films are films. The sum total of all the things that GE, for example, does right as a Bond movie, makes NSNA pale in comparison.