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I sure did! He looked fantastic for 60. I can't wait to see the film.
I think so. It will be nice to see the 5 Bond movie he never got. ;)
Dragonnpol recommended Griswold's book to me after posting on the Fleming discontinuity thread and whilst I think Griswold did a decent job, his problem is that he's trying to make sense out of a series of books written by a man who didn't care about consistency (also, I find a few of his interpretations a little odd.) The 1921 birthdate is a necessary compromise when trying to reconcile the various pieces of contradictory information given across the stories.
It's difficult to use Griswold's chronology as the final word as it goes against the clear intention of the stories so often. e.g. If Bond was born in 1921 then he would have been 12 years old when he bought his Bentley (in 1933); and whilst I understand why Griswold tried to fit it so MR happened 2 years after CR, it directly contradicts Fleming's text (CR takes place in late summer, LALD takes place the following February and MR takes place three months later in May.)
All of which is a rambling way of saying that I think Fleming's intention was to have Bond be 36/37 in CR. That said, I agree with you that it works to have Bond slightly younger in that story.
A younger Bond to follow Craig could work but I have to say that Cavil would have been way too young in CR.
The age of the actor assuming the role really depends on who it is. Connery was 32 in Dr No but looks much older. In fact, he looks older at the age of 40 in DAF than Moore did age 50 in TSWLM. Craig was looking much older in SF but that seemed to be accentuated by makeup, hair and costume in order to reflect Bond's role in the story. Will be interesting to see if they continue down that route in Bond 24?
I think Griswold does a good job. I would have to re-read his reasoning for the chronology. It seemed to make sense considering what he was left to work with.
Anyway I do think Fleming intends that Bond was mid-thirties as ideal age. I would think though that a man of Bond's talents would be able to achieve 00 status by mid-twenties and be a seasoned agent by 30, so I do like the 1921 birth-year.
It sets up the canon nicely, other than buying the Bentley at 12 ;)
And no Broz wasn't all that bad. His finest moment IMO was the make-out scene with Frost. He tells her icey self, to put her back into it, and then doesn't let on when the thugs leave, even telling her (to her consternation) that he knew they were gone. Well done!
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i agree
Brosnan in the Thomas Crown Affair appeared to be suave in that because I believe he felt less intimidated in that role than he was when in the role of Bond and the impression I get is, he was able to really inhabit and become these other characters but for Bond, it always looked like he was acting instead of being. On that note, it is hard to deny that the man was often cool and slick as Bond.
On that note what about Dan's slightly camp Terminator/tough-guy walk (don't pretend you haven't noticed)? Broz had his faults but he never had that :p
:)) Ho man, I didn't see that coming! LOL!
I always thought that was "acting" a little but there we go (and I like Dan).
We can pick
I do think that in parts of GE Broz does come off as a little "lite" but I think he's more assertive and more "suave" in the others.
Me too, but now that you mention it, his gait was entirely different in Cowboys & Aliens...
There is something a bit T-1000ish about Craig. I've often felt that. My mum has even made fun of Craig's run in the past
Haha, he's a rather notorious overactor. Like Brosnan can be.
I don't think Brosnan was a weak walker as Bond, but gosh was he a poor runner! I always thought he was totally unconvincing as a runner, always looking uncomfortable.
As for the camp Terminator, I would say this is Brosnan too, who used a lot of machine gun in his Bond movies, more than any other Bond.
In terms of the camp Terminator I meant in terms of Craig's walk rather than what he did (or didn't do) with machine guns. His posture does sometimes seem a bit...robotic. Maybe that was intentional though.
I'd say in terms of Bros running he was more convincing than Moore but maybe not as convincing as most of the others. That said according to him he did used to play Rugby which involves a bit of very short distance running.
Indeed. Definitely the worst aspect of Dan's Bond. Like a short-man swagger. I think it's the pout that makes it camper.
I always loved the way Brosnan moved. He knows how to carry himself. No one beats the panther Connery on that front, but Brosnan was a slick mover.
I never had a problem myself with Brosnan's running. The reedy Irish-American accent for an English spy, a lack of physical presence that rarely radiated how dangerous the character is supposed to be, the smarm, the lack of focus in developing his version of Bond after 1997 and box ticking through the rest of his tenure while blaming scripts, producers, and fellow actors for his misfortunes are what makes the Brozzer at best a partial success to his detractors. Many wouldn't even be that kind. Just my two cents. I appreciate many other things about his tenure and I am not trying to do a hatchet job on the guy especially given what he's going through at the moment (though I'm sure he probably could care less what people here are saying), but perfect he surely is not compared to what came before and after him, which in the cases of the master Connery, Dalton, and Craig are much better representations of the character that Fleming created.