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  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    Posts: 9,020
    The car chase in QOS is one of the greatest of the franchise??

    I have to re-watch that.
    I just can remember epilepsy-inducing fast flashes of images that slightly resemble silver cars and blurry faces in them :))
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,585
    Birdleson wrote: »
    The fight with Slade is one of the best in the franchise. I'd say both the Tosca and interrogation of Mr. White scenes are, if not quite iconic, memorable and well-regarded on here.

    Agreed.
  • sirdavidsirdavid Rugby, Warwickshire
    Posts: 9
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @sirdavid, I feel bad for you, as I've never felt physically pained by any film I've watched, ever. Must be an odd feeling.
    I've felt shivers from films, but that's not pain... where exactly is movie-induced pain located in a body?

    :-??

    Thanks Creasey. It is an odd feeling. It leaves me with a headache. Thankfully it's the only film I've come across that has that affect on me.
  • sirdavidsirdavid Rugby, Warwickshire
    edited October 2015 Posts: 9
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @sirdavid, I feel bad for you, as I've never felt physically pained by any film I've watched, ever. Must be an odd feeling.
    I've felt shivers from films, but that's not pain... where exactly is movie-induced pain located in a body?

    :-??

    Thanks Creasey. It is an odd feeling. It leaves me with a headache. Thankfully it's the only film I've come across that has that affect on me.

  • sirdavidsirdavid Rugby, Warwickshire
    Posts: 9
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    I think everyone, myself included, had major issues with the editing! But for me, the more times you watch QoS the less bothersome the cutting is!

    I think you're right.

    It's difficult for an editor to step back when they're editing a complex scene, and see it with the eyes of someone seeing the film for the first time. But I think great editors can do that.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    The car chase in QOS is one of the greatest of the franchise??

    I have to re-watch that.
    I just can remember epilepsy-inducing fast flashes of images that slightly resemble silver cars and blurry faces in them :))

    You've clearly never been in a car chase or car crash. I've been in both and I can tell you, there's a lot of flashing and blurring.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    edited October 2015 Posts: 9,020
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I actually see my relationship with @BondJasonBond006 , to be akin to the way I started off with you two.

    I don't know anything about those relationships, but I can tell you @Birdleson that you were one of the very first that caught my attention in a positive way here, I have a lot of respect for you.
  • Posts: 11,425
    The car chase in QOS is one of the greatest of the franchise??

    I have to re-watch that.
    I just can remember epilepsy-inducing fast flashes of images that slightly resemble silver cars and blurry faces in them :))

    Are you a geriatric? You sound like someone who hasn't watched a fast paced action sequence before!

    Some of the criticism of QOS is justified but a lot of it sounds like silly whinging.

    Let me guess - you didn't like Bourne either?
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    Posts: 9,020
    Getafix wrote: »
    The car chase in QOS is one of the greatest of the franchise??

    I have to re-watch that.
    I just can remember epilepsy-inducing fast flashes of images that slightly resemble silver cars and blurry faces in them :))

    Are you a geriatric? You sound like someone who hasn't watched a fast paced action sequence before!

    Some of the criticism of QOS is justified but a lot of it sounds like silly whinging.

    Let me guess - you didn't like Bourne either?

    I was a bit sarcastic. Of course I can clearly see that Bond is driving a fine silver Mercedes :))

    Nope, I don't like Bourne, the first one was kind of original, but seeing how they pretended to be in Zurich when they were in Eastern Europe was quite frankly an insult.
    The second and third ones were just milking a concept that worked once.
    The editing style in Bourne looked already dated by the second movie. And thank God that "style" has long died off in Hollywood movies since.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited October 2015 Posts: 40,978
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    I think everyone, myself included, had major issues with the editing! But for me, the more times you watch QoS the less bothersome the cutting is! And the car chase is certainly one ,if not THE, best car chases they've ever staged. its inventive and thrilling. A lot of people were annoyed that Dan Bradley was hired for the second unit, because of his assosciation with the Bourne movies, but I think he is a very creative action director, and I certainly rank him above the over- rated Vic Armstrong!

    "Speak for yourself."
  • Posts: 498
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    I think everyone, myself included, had major issues with the editing! But for me, the more times you watch QoS the less bothersome the cutting is! And the car chase is certainly one ,if not THE, best car chases they've ever staged. its inventive and thrilling. A lot of people were annoyed that Dan Bradley was hired for the second unit, because of his assosciation with the Bourne movies, but I think he is a very creative action director, and I certainly rank him above the over- rated Vic Armstrong!

    "Speak for yourself."

    This^,
    I actually liked the editing(yes , I said it)
    , no i'm not senile I could easily keep up with the action , and it invoked a sense of urgency and threat which made the action scenes satisfying , you actually feel the adrenaline rush because of the sheer intensity
  • Posts: 498
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I keep saying, but some people don't listen...regardless of what is thought elsewhere, it is not wise to assume that there is a negative impression of QUANTUM OF SOLACE on these boards.
    isn't it cool to hate on Quantum Of Solace ?

  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,804
    QOS is totally under-rated IMO. But then, I love it. Go figure.
  • Posts: 486
    Quantum Of Solace is probably still my favourite of the Craig films. If we leave the editing of the action sequences aside I like the crisp cinematography of the film as well as the tone of the whole thing. The desert sequences reflect the barren nature of Bond and Camille who remain downbeat and dejected even after winning the battle at the Perla De Las Dunas Hotel.

    I went into the cinema to see QOS conscious of the bad reviews and came out of it thinking "really...?" having rather enjoyed it. By contrast I came away from SF finding that it had been a little overrated. I enjoy the latter film until Silva makes an entrance. I don't share the opinion that Javier Bardem was a great Bond villian. I think the last of the greats is still Sanchez.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,804
    Cowley wrote: »
    I think the last of the greats is still Sanchez.
    Noted. But I still love Trevelyan & Carver.
  • Posts: 486
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Cowley wrote: »
    I think the last of the greats is still Sanchez.
    Noted. But I still love Trevelyan & Carver.

    I should like Trevelyan - ex 00 agent and Bond's equal and all that - but Sean Bean putting on his 'Tally ho chaps' accent whilst waffling on about "For England James" irked me from the pre-titles onwards. There's also that ridiculous line about Natalya tasting like strawberries!
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,804
    Cowley wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Cowley wrote: »
    I think the last of the greats is still Sanchez.
    Noted. But I still love Trevelyan & Carver.

    I should like Trevelyan - ex 00 agent and Bond's equal and all that - but Sean Bean putting on his 'Tally ho chaps' accent whilst waffling on about "For England James" irked me from the pre-titles onwards. There's also that ridiculous line about Natalya tasting like strawberries!
    I see we will never be mates here...
    :))
  • Posts: 486
    Ha ha. Sorry I just can't take to him...but then again as a die hard Dalton fan I've probably never given Goldeneye a chance!
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,804
    Cowley wrote: »
    as a die hard Dalton fan
    I take that back, mate!

    =D>
  • Posts: 486
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Cowley wrote: »
    as a die hard Dalton fan
    I take that back, mate!

    =D>

    Ha ha! Well yes so as you can imagine I sat sulking through Goldeneye at the cinema!

    A friend who came with me was a huge Sharpe fan and I remember her saying she felt conflicted about who she wanted to win out of Trevelyan and Bond!
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    Posts: 9,020
    Cowley wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Cowley wrote: »
    as a die hard Dalton fan
    I take that back, mate!

    =D>

    Ha ha! Well yes so as you can imagine I sat sulking through Goldeneye at the cinema!

    A friend who came with me was a huge Sharpe fan and I remember her saying she felt conflicted about who she wanted to win out of Trevelyan and Bond!

    I'm a die-hard Dalton fan as well, but I enjoyed Brosnans movies as well, especially Goldeneye.
    But then I was 21 when GE hit the theaters so that might be the reason. I did wonder back then ca 1993 where the next Bond is and when Brosnan got announced just accepted it without thinking too much about it.
  • Posts: 7,438
    Agree totally about Sean Beans accent. Knowing he is from up north and doesn't talk at all like that, it was really annoying listening to the plummy voice he puts on. And he did have some awful dialogue. And Jonathan Pryce? His panto villain performance was embarrassing to watch, the part where he imitates Wai Lins karate moves was cringe-inducing to watch.
    Yes, I'm another die-hard Dalton fan.
  • edited October 2015 Posts: 11,425
    Cowley wrote: »
    Quantum Of Solace is probably still my favourite of the Craig films. If we leave the editing of the action sequences aside I like the crisp cinematography of the film as well as the tone of the whole thing. The desert sequences reflect the barren nature of Bond and Camille who remain downbeat and dejected even after winning the battle at the Perla De Las Dunas Hotel.

    I went into the cinema to see QOS conscious of the bad reviews and came out of it thinking "really...?" having rather enjoyed it. By contrast I came away from SF finding that it had been a little overrated. I enjoy the latter film until Silva makes an entrance. I don't share the opinion that Javier Bardem was a great Bond villian. I think the last of the greats is still Sanchez.

    I had 100% the same experience. Came out of Qos pleasantly surprised and walked out of SF feeling the same way I used to after seeing a Brosnan era movie. It works reasonably well until they leave Silva's Island IMO.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    Posts: 1,756
    100% agreed with your post. I love both movies but there's something about Quantum that makes me want to watch it again and again.
  • 1. CR
    2. SF
    3. SP / QOS

    As of now. looking forward to revisiitng Quantum
  • Posts: 4,325
    Skyfall, no question.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    edited February 2016 Posts: 3,157
    1. Casino Royale
    2. Quantum of Solace
    3. Skyfall

    [huge gap]

    4. SPECTRE
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    1. CR (wins because of Craig and Green- otherwise SF could take top spot)
    2. SF (excellent work)
    3. QoS (let down by editing and characterizations as well as pacing - too fast)

    (huge gap also)

    4. SP (just dull really but very nice to look at if not for the colours)
  • I'm well known as one of the "QoS haters" on here, but I haven't seen the film in well over a year. Looking forward to revisiting it. I hope it grows on me a bit. Maybe it won't. I say "haters" in quotes because I don't hate the movie at all, just in relation to the rest of the series.

    Also, everyone says SP will "appeal to the die hard fans" just because it has the classic tropes and is more formulaic but I think this thread (particularly the last 5 posts or so) is disproving that broad claim pretty firmly. @Birdleson @Walecs and @bondjames (as well as myself) would all consider ourselves pretty hardcore fans, and we rate SP as perhaps the worst of Craig's tenure.

    It's funny, I know Birdleson and myself wanted a Bond somewhat similar to what we got. People say, "be careful what you wish for," or "you just can't please those sorts of people" but I disagree. We didn't get what we wanted. We wanted an old school Bond film, a classic Bond film with classic Bond elements, but executed with inspiration, vibrancy, and energy.

    Some of the most "formulaic" (which everyone cites as a criticism, which I disagree with) Bond films in the entire series I'd rank as some of the most inspired (GF, TB, TSWLM, MR, GE, etc).

    I wanted a classic Bond with Craig in the leading role. I wanted a commando battle at the end. etc etc etc. I didn't want it to be personal (didn't quite get that, now did we) etc. We got some of the elements, but they seemed thrown in haphazardly and lazily and without the energy or reverence that, say, SF had.

    Bummer that Craig seems to be hanging up the Tux now too, but I wouldn't expect B25, given Craig's disinterest in the series, to feel any more inspired or fresher than SP.
    Ugh, I need to stop talking about this movie. I still am itching to rewatch it, because it's Bond, but I dunno why I won't shut up.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    @ThighsOfXenia I used to be a QoS hater too, actually. QOS was very low in my ranking, until I watched it again while waiting for SPECTRE, and for some reason I loved it so much it now sits at number #3.
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