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#08 choose between two options: CONNERY-DALTON-BROSNAN ...or... LAZENBY-MOORE-CRAIG
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CHOOSE one of two OPTIONS and explain your decision if you like.
This time: Choose between:
Option One:
Connery-Dalton-Brosnan (12 films)
Option Two:
Lazenby-Moore-Craig (12 films)
Imagine you could only watch one set of films and the other set never ever again.
Done so far:
#01 CR/SP...or...QOS/SF
#02 DN/GF/YOLT...or...FRWL/TB/DAF
#03 70s/80s/10s...or...60s/90s/00s
#04 GE/DAD...or...TND/TWINE
#05 TLD/LTK...or...OHMSS
#06 LALD/MR/FYEO/AVATK...or...TMWTGG/TSWLM/OP/AVTAK
#07
Option One: GF - DAF - TMWTGG - TLD - TWINE - SP ...or
Option Two: TB - TSWLM - AVTAK - LTK - DAD - SF ...or
Option Three: FRWL - OHMSS - LALD - FYEO - GE - QOS ...or
Option Four: DN - YOLT - MR - OP - TND - CR
This time: Choose between:
Option One:
Connery-Dalton-Brosnan (12 films)
Option Two:
Lazenby-Moore-Craig (12 films)
Imagine you could only watch one set of films and the other set never ever again.
Done so far:
#01 CR/SP...or...QOS/SF
#02 DN/GF/YOLT...or...FRWL/TB/DAF
#03 70s/80s/10s...or...60s/90s/00s
#04 GE/DAD...or...TND/TWINE
#05 TLD/LTK...or...OHMSS
#06 LALD/MR/FYEO/AVATK...or...TMWTGG/TSWLM/OP/AVTAK
#07
Option One: GF - DAF - TMWTGG - TLD - TWINE - SP ...or
Option Two: TB - TSWLM - AVTAK - LTK - DAD - SF ...or
Option Three: FRWL - OHMSS - LALD - FYEO - GE - QOS ...or
Option Four: DN - YOLT - MR - OP - TND - CR
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As Bond, but I'd have to give Connery the edge ..... Just. ;) as as far as
Bond actors go, I regard him as " The origin of the species " :D
I'm certain plenty will disagree. ;)
Sean Connery - by far.
No one combined the effortless humour/charm (although Moore matched him here I think) with the screen gravitas (again Moore matched him here), with indisputable credibility as an OHMSS agent (Craig/Dalton/Lazenby match him here) with good looks (arguably all the actors) and believable physical capabilities (Craig & Lazenby surpass him here, with Dalton probably on par) as Sean Connery.
Craig is an excellent James Bond. Very credible in the role (except, from my perspective, in the womanizing/charm areas where he doesn't appear so) and a superb actor.....he's proven that in 3 films.
However, there is only one king who sits on top of the heap, and that is Sir Sean. Irrefutably, imho. The original, and still the best. ^:)^
is it conceivable that the newly minted, rough edged Bond (Craig) eventually becomes the Bond played by Connery. Again, persona, since the actual physical features of both actors are quite different.
I like both actors. While their portrayals are different, they are both convincing.
The reality is Connery is well-suited to those early films, whereas Craig is well-suited for the current Bond direction. Could they have been interchangeable? It doesn't matter, because their films are forty years apart. It didn't happen, it couldn't happen.
The newer films are much better made. They don't have the gaffs and the sped up film
that plague the early Bond films. But I give the razor thin edge to Connery as my favorite Bond actor, even though Casino Royale has moved into first place among my favorite Bond films.
Having said that I prefer to watch Daniel Craig's films more often than not.
I prefer Connery's Bond, and Craig's Bond films, I suppose.
Indeed, and given how pointless they are, we are constantly hoping that we don't see more of them.
Plenty of threads where "your favourite Bond" can be discussed. Why single out this pair in a whole new thread?
You can make about 20 pairs with all 6 Bond actors. Must we have 20 threads just for that? When in so many other threads we have already discussed our favourite Bond about a 100 times?
Same as with the movie 1 vs movie 2 threads. I'm not even going to calculate how many pairs can be made out of 24 movies. We can litter the place with it. Again, so many existing threads, perfectly suited for the discussion. But because of all those spin-off threads which end up being the same thing over and over again, it becomes messy, no-one can find the right one because, well, there are too many, and so on.
Please folks, given how many years the forum's been around, understand that almost every conceivable Bond related topic has somehow been given its own thread somewhere already. And if you have something personal to write or to share, reserve one thread for that. One thread for your essays. One thread for the Bond questions. One thread for the versus games, one thread for your fan art. ... That way we avoid two things:
1) that threads have at most 10 posts in them before dying a slow death
2) that we have too many threads so it becomes impossible to find the right one for your discussion
Take the Bond vs Bond thing for example.
Week 1: Connery vs Lazenby
Week 2: Connery vs Moore
...
and after the final week, everyone can respond freely. You new on this forum? Want to discuss Lazenby versus Dalton? Fine. Add a post and talk all you want. Just don't start a new thread for it.
How about the "not so loved Bonds"? How many of these "Which is worse: DAD or QOS", "Why is QOS hated?", "Is DAD getting more praise now?", "TMWTGG, MR, AVTAK: which is Moore's worst Bond?" ... threads have we seen already? Be creative please. Instead, prepare one thread: "the lesser loved Bonds" and keep it open for all relevant discussions. Play with it:
Week 1: name your bottom 5 Bonds
Week 2: DAF vs TMWTGG
Week 3: Has your opinion on DAD changed?
...
At least then we have a go-to thread. Now we have 50 go-to threads. So people can't decide any more. So they just make ANOTHER one! Can we please avoid that. Just edit the title and stay within the same thread. Help us to organise this forum. We appreciate your input. Our forum has the richest content of all the Bond forums around and all because of your wonderful contributions. All we ask though, is to please help us organise things and keep them organised.
Thank you.
Still love you. :D
So to discuss Craig vs Connery specifically is not possible unless one of the original poster of such thread edit their initial post.
He is the perfect Bond : cool,sexy, threatening, great sense of humor and very belivable as a ladies man.
He can be very fleming style but can also be the more cinematic Bond
That about sums it up perfectly.
This.
You never miss a trick, pal! :))
Seems pretty simple
Let me speak with some other mods to decide on whether or not we should do huge threads for these topics, or if we should just resort to the threads of old that have been created a few times over.
I like to contribute actively, I believe I have started some good threads.
But I can see now that it is unwanted or maybe I have to be on this site a certain amount of time to "earn" the right to make new threads.
I get the point that duplicate threads are an annoyance though.
I'll restrain myself of opening new threads. It is enough fun to read all the fabulous stuff on this site and comment on that.
This time: Choose between keeping CR and SP or QOS and SF
Sorry for the misunderstanding @BondJasonBond006 .
I'll go with QoS and SF in this instance, and it was a very difficult choice to make.
Although CR is a brilliant film, I'm not too keen on SP (to put it mildly). Moreover, I like both QoS and SF for different reasons. Both are absolutely stunning to look at (beautiful films). One is heavy on the action and a bit light on character development, and the other is completely the opposite, being very strong on character interaction. So they are a yin and yang as it were. Both films are incredibly well acted as well.
Most importantly, I like to watch both these films quite often. They are both a breeze to get through. I'm not one who finds SF melodramatic in the slightest. Bardem's camp sees to that.
So sadly, much as I love CR (and especially Mads, Eva, Caterina, Giancarlo and Jeffrey), I have to sacrifice it, because two is most definitely better than one, no matter how exceptional that 'one' is.
With deep regret. Over and out.
I altered the title and the post.
It was unclear, my mistake.
Maybe you will edit your post as well and choose anew :) Thank you.
CR is my second favourite bond film of all time. I think objectively one could put forward the case that it is the most complete bond film. It is a successful origin story and love story. It has a good twist, is based on a fleming novel and takes important key ingredients for its source novel. Action wise and suspense wise it is brilliant. Overall it is as close to perfect as Bond gets for me.
I'm not a SP hater - and while it is my least favourite of the Craig era - it wouldn't crack the bottom five of all Bond films for me.
QoS is middle range bond, SF is top ten, SP is lower middle range Bond. My order for Craig is CR, SF, QoS, SP - therefore I'll happily sit through Spectre, just pardon me if I glaze over a little in the third act.
But CR is so good, so vital to me - that you could pair it with Die Another Day and I'd still choose that duo - CR is that necessary for me.
I could do without all the unnecessary melodrama in Skyfall, especially, or the unimportant direct sequel continuation of the CR story in Quantum of Solace (despite my like for the film). Spectre could easily follow up on Royale's story and develop from there. At the end of the first, we were promised a fully formed Bond, only to get damaged character dilemmas for two entries (and years of existence enduring it) more and more.
So, here's my explanation. A James Bond adventure with less drama. The pack is CR and SP.
Plus, while both Quantum and Skyfall have a high rewatch value for me, I can't say the same about the other two. CR, as great as it is, is not one I find myself revisiting over and over again. And of course I still haven't seen SP since last November.
But this is really about how much more I enjoy QoS and SF. An easy call, despite feeling CR's absence.
Before Spectre came out, there was a busy QOS vs SF thread, and it seemed there was almost no one who liked both without some big qualification. One of the ironies of Spectre's release is that now there seem to be many fans of both as these films are no longer the divisive newbie that Spectre now is. Maybe it's always the case with new movies.
QOS + SF
CR + SP
Regarding SP, it has really been taken apart by posters here over the last few months, and it even has a thread unfairly comparing it to other Bond films, (and unsurprisingly its not doing too well). But its doing well in that other Film Poll, looks like its at least going to in the top 12!, so maybe it has more fans here than people are letting on!