The Award Winning : 'Bond...comments while you watch...'

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  • edited August 2017 Posts: 1,009
    Watching the pre-credits scene of TB before going to sleep...
    - A strong willing suspension of disbelief is needed to make sense about that hot chick turning into the not very handsome and quite hairy Bob Simmons. What a crazy scene!
    - I wonder what part of London was used to represent the outskirts of Paris.
    - Ahhhhh, the end of the credits sequence: BARÇA! BARÇA! BAAAAAAARÇA!
    - Finally, I find kinda weird an unit had to fly to Paris just to film several seconds of Adolfo Celli entering SPECTRE's HQ. Could it be the shortest foreign location shooting in a Bond movie?

    Well, good night everybody, everywhere.
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    TB really gone up in my estimation after latest viewing.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    The_Donald wrote: »
    TB really gone up in my estimation after latest viewing.

    Great film looks stunning in HD always been in my top three Bond films with FRWL and OHMSS
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    The_Donald wrote: »
    TB really gone up in my estimation after latest viewing.

    Great film looks stunning in HD always been in my top three Bond films with FRWL and OHMSS

    I would have TLD ahead of TB but I could see TB being 4th.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    The_Donald wrote: »
    The_Donald wrote: »
    TB really gone up in my estimation after latest viewing.

    Great film looks stunning in HD always been in my top three Bond films with FRWL and OHMSS

    I would have TLD ahead of TB but I could see TB being 4th.

    The Dalton films are good I go back and forth as to which I prefer, I guess it depends on my mood. TLD has some fantastic Bond moments from Dalton especially Saunders death scene.
  • Agent_99Agent_99 enjoys a spirited ride as much as the next girl
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    Watching TLD right now on ITV. Currently at the pipeline scene, which is wholly glorious.
  • Agent_99Agent_99 enjoys a spirited ride as much as the next girl
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    Bond puts Moneypenny's glasses back on all skew-wiff. Can't stand it when people do that (though would grin and bear it in these circumstances).
  • Agent_99Agent_99 enjoys a spirited ride as much as the next girl
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    It's nearly time for me to shout I COULD FLY A HERC A DAMN SIGHT BETTER THAN THAT.

    I stand by this statement even though for some reason nobody has ever let me try.
  • Agent_99Agent_99 enjoys a spirited ride as much as the next girl
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    ...I was all ready for the ITV announcer to tell us it'll be LTK next week, but apparently we're skipping to TND. All righty then!
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    A very poor substitute!
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    Agent_99 wrote: »
    ...I was all ready for the ITV announcer to tell us it'll be LTK next week, but apparently we're skipping to TND. All righty then!

    Hmm maybe don't want to show LTK censored? But it doesn't normally worry them
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    The sequence of Bond first being at Osato Chemicals is very good, and one of the best parts of YOLT. Simple but totally classic Bond stuff.
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    Finished the watch of YOLT. I've said many times it's my least favorite golden age Bond film - and while that's still true, it's still a good Bond film! Connery's performance is decent (I always crack up when he tells Brandt "I'd rather not"), Blofeld was handled fairly well, and the Bond girls were decent. The film's biggest strengths are the locations and epic climax IMO. The PTS isn't one of my favorites, but overall, the first 30ish minutes and last 30ish minutes of the film are the best parts. The Little Nellie sequence is fun too. Overall YOLT is definitely a good Bond adventure still - and the fact it is the weakest link of the golden age films is a great testament to how awesome that era was for Bond.

  • edited August 2017 Posts: 1,009
    More TB hodgepodge:
    - Pat must be the most patient Bond Girl ever! Bond touches her inappropiatedly several times during work hours, forces her to a kiss and blackmails her taking advantadge of a commentary that wasn't even directed to her. Poor girl: I've always felt the rack thing wasn't only Count Lippe's idea: It was karma, too.
    - Bond doesn't smoke in all the film. Was Connery trying to kick the habit? Or just Bond believing in Shrubland's methods, like in the novel?
    - Bond says goodbye to Pat after technically raping making out with her:
    English: "See you later, alligator"
    Spanish: "Hasta luego, que habrá fuego" (See you later, there'll be fire)
    Italian: "Ciao, tesoro, sogni d'oro" (Bye, darling, sweet dreams)
    - Lippe must be the clumsiest and most coward SPECTRE operative ever: I never noticed he was on the scene where Bond find Derval's corpse. He could have killed Bond easily then, but he doesn't shoot! Was he afraid his silencer won't work and hesitated?

    *Edit: For heck's sake, I always find out about grammar and orthography mistakes on my posts several hours or even days after I post them. Cambridge Proficiency my ass!
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    SKYFALL

    Tanner and Bond are walking around. 007 in and Indiana Jones-esque jacket and stubble.
    Bond working out. I think he should have worn Moore's tracksuit from AVTAK.
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    M and Mallory watching Bond's evaluation. Tanner in the background doing nothing.
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    Bond meets Mallory So after suiting up, are we to believe there wasn't some shaving cream and razor in MI6's new digs? Is Bond purposely trying a new look or just lazy? No wonder Malory immediately gives Bond s**t.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    M and Mallory watching Bond's evaluation. Tanner in the background doing nothing.

    What else is new?
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    M and Mallory watching Bond's evaluation. Tanner in the background doing nothing.

    What else is new?

    Cheque is in the post.
  • edited August 2017 Posts: 1,009
    Question about TB, for air enthusiasts: is the 1965 Vulcan much different to current war aircraft? When I see the movie, I'm amazed of how modern it looks after 52 years!

    More things while I watch:
    - During the 00 meeting... I'm sure that actor with the goatee next to Sean... From the very first time I saw TB as an adult, I swear I've seen him in some other movie...
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    It's actually very hard to look natural while doing nothing on screen. So an excellent
    Piece of acting there ;-)
  • Agent_99Agent_99 enjoys a spirited ride as much as the next girl
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    Question about TB, for air enthusiasts: is the 1965 Vulcan much different to current war aircraft? When I see the movie, I'm amazed of how modern it looks after 52 years!

    Well, I'm very much an enthusiast, not an expert, but have some of my humble opinion:

    It's a fantastic aircraft, with that distinctive shape, and a very novel, bold and advanced design for its time. As well as its impressive range, speed and carrying capacity, it's highly manoeuvrable, not to mention barrel rollable.

    It remained in service until the '80s; it was supposed to retire in 1982, but a few examples were converted to tankers and stayed on for another couple of years. In a different political and economical climate, they might have hung around longer.

    How would it hold up today? Well, the modern RAF simply doesn't have anything like it, using multirole aircraft (Typhoon and Tornado) for bombing.

    The USAF still operates the even more venerable B-52 Stratofortress, which can carry a bigger payload further but is slower.

    The B-1 Lancer and B-2 Spirit stealth bomber, both 30 years newer, have the edge on speed, range and payload (the B-2 is comparably awesome to look at, too). But the Vulcan is no slouch. Compare them all on Wikipedia:

    Vulcan specs
    B-52 specs
    B-1 specs
    B-2 specs

    Notes:

    - In Fleming's novel, the nuclear bomber is the fictional 'Vindicator'. Using the Vulcan in the film was a super-cool call.

    - The Vulcan was part of a fleet of three 'V-bombers'. The other two were the Vickers Valiant and the Handley Page Victor. The Vulcan has stuck in the popular imagination because it's the only one that looks like a giant alien moth.

    - If a V-bomber force had ever taken off for the USSR in retaliation following a Russian nuclear strike, the planes wouldn't have come back. Nothing to come back to.

    - Pilots were issued with an eyepatch so they could still fly if they were blinded in one eye by a nuclear flash.

    - Please google what does b-52 buff stand for.
  • edited August 2017 Posts: 1,009
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    Agent_99 wrote: »
    Question about TB, for air enthusiasts: is the 1965 Vulcan much different to current war aircraft? When I see the movie, I'm amazed of how modern it looks after 52 years!

    Well, I'm very much an enthusiast, not an expert, but have some of my humble opinion:

    It's a fantastic aircraft, with that distinctive shape, and a very novel, bold and advanced design for its time. As well as its impressive range, speed and carrying capacity, it's highly manoeuvrable, not to mention barrel rollable.

    It remained in service until the '80s; it was supposed to retire in 1982, but a few examples were converted to tankers and stayed on for another couple of years. In a different political and economical climate, they might have hung around longer.

    How would it hold up today? Well, the modern RAF simply doesn't have anything like it, using multirole aircraft (Typhoon and Tornado) for bombing.

    The USAF still operates the even more venerable B-52 Stratofortress, which can carry a bigger payload further but is slower.

    The B-1 Lancer and B-2 Spirit stealth bomber, both 30 years newer, have the edge on speed, range and payload (the B-2 is comparably awesome to look at, too). But the Vulcan is no slouch. Compare them all on Wikipedia:

    Vulcan specs
    B-52 specs
    B-1 specs
    B-2 specs

    Notes:

    - In Fleming's novel, the nuclear bomber is the fictional 'Vindicator'. Using the Vulcan in the film was a super-cool call.

    - The Vulcan was part of a fleet of three 'V-bombers'. The other two were the Vickers Valiant and the Handley Page Victor. The Vulcan has stuck in the popular imagination because it's the only one that looks like a giant alien moth.

    - If a V-bomber force had ever taken off for the USSR in retaliation following a Russian nuclear strike, the planes wouldn't have come back. Nothing to come back to.

    - Pilots were issued with an eyepatch so they could still fly if they were blinded in one eye by a nuclear flash.

    - Please google what does b-52 buff stand for.

    Fantastic insight on the machine, 99! Thanks.

    Of all those models, only the B-2 looks cooler and more, well "futuristic" than the Vulcan.
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    I have a thread on here somewhere about the Vulcan....I cant remember whats in it,if anyone wants to locate it.
  • Agent_99Agent_99 enjoys a spirited ride as much as the next girl
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    Fantastic insight on the machine, 99! Thanks.

    Of all those models, only the B-2 looks cooler and more, well "futuristic" than the Vulcan.

    You're very welcome! Thank you for giving me the opportunity :)

    Agreed on the B-2. You can see why conspiracy theorists think it uses alien technology.
  • edited August 2017 Posts: 463
    I didn't know where else this post should go - I'm currently watching The Rock and there's so many subtle nods to Connery's run as Bond, including his character being a former British agent. I think his performance in The Rock harkens back to some of his earlier Bond work, which got me thinking:

    They should've written Bond the same way in NSNA - an older, more world weary and cynical performance would have been absolutely incredible. I think it's odd that they went for a more DAF/Moore take on the character instead. Considering they were already hinting towards Bond's retirement in the film, it would have definitely added more weight to the story.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T.
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    My interest in watching The World Is Not Enough somehow transformed into an interest in Die Another Day. I think it had to do with that beautiful special edition DVD slipcase. So I watched it. It's good! Here are my thoughts. It's a sort of Bond comments while you watch, only I'm not watching it right now. Because I already did.

    - Great pre-title sequence, fun all around. Fine piece of music by David Arnold when we see the surfers. Brosnan is cool and confident as Bond; by now he has mastered this role. I like his little reaction when he opens the suitcase and sees the diamonds.

    - I appreciate how the plot deals with a real political conflict, without the film actually being political. It reminds me of Octopussy. This time, it made the film more interesting for me, with the issue of North Korea being so topical these days.

    - I really like the title song. I don't care for some of the lyrics (Sigmund Freud?), but I do like how they hint at Bond going into a lockdown mode of sorts. Also, the dramatic strings add a lot to it.

    - Bond on the brink of death by firing squad (or so he thinks). A special moment, to say the least. Kenneth Tsang gives the scene a bit more dramatic weight.

    - Bond and M talking in the ship... the subject? Trust. It's the Craig era before the Craig era! But the scene is fine, and doesn't overstay its welcome. A couple of minutes later, Bond is back in action.

    - Bond meditating? I suppose it's okay, and I appreciate the implication he would meditate while in captivity, just to try to survive. But speaking as a layman, his waking up so suddenly and efficiently is a bit much to swallow.

    - The Hong Kong hotel scenes are probably the best in the movie. Bond walks into the hotel looking like a bum, gets a suite, tailored clothes, a haircut and a shave, then seduces the girl, ridicules the Chinese agents (including the hotel manager), negotiates a smart deal for the information he needs, and then leaves with a ticket to Cuba. Terrific stuff. Also, great music in the hotel room.

    - Cuba (well, Cádiz)... a fun, sunny location, and we actually get to see Bond walking the streets. It comes across as a real place! I was left wanting for more, but at least we see something.

    - Raoul. A brief role but a likable character. "¡Oye pero relájate hombre!"

    - I like this little exchange: "They are particularly hazardous for one`s health, Mr..." "Bond." No "Bond, James Bond" stuff, as if 007 just wants to find Zao and the traitor as quickly as possible. He wants what he wants right now, not later.

    - Some of Halle Berry's line deliveries are a bit off, but she's clearly having fun in the movie. It's infectious! Also, she has great chemistry with Brosnan. In their first scene, I also get that sense of Bond being impatient and extra confident. There's that sense of Bond being pleasure-deprived. It's interesting. And the next morning, Jinx wakes up before he does.

    - "Buenos días." "Hola." A silly gag, but it works. Twice.

    - Why does Zao carry those diamonds in a necklace, anyway?

    - I like how Bond is left a bit dumbfounded by Jinx. I don't remember where I read this, but it's accurate: it's as if Jinx is in her own movie, which intersects with Bond's at times.

    - Note to self: I must try to find a high resolution still of the magazine article on Graves. Also, London Calling!

    - This, for me, is a bigger issue than the invisible car or the wave... Graves becomes a respected member of British society in just a few months, and gets a knightood? Maybe it would've been more plausible (relatively speaking) if the gene therapy was intended to transform Moon into an actual British industrialist, who would then be supplanted by Moon.

    - I love how quickly tensions escalate in the fencing scene. "Of course I want to bloody continue!" The sound of those thick clashing swords at the end, the music that grows in tempo... good scene.

    - John Cleese actually makes for a fine Q, now that they've done away with his clumsiness. He still has to tolerate Bond's abuse, but he knows his stuff. I wish he had been allowed to continue in the role.

    - Admittedly, once the film reaches Iceland, almost all its best moments are behind it. But it's still okay. I enjoy the contrast between sunny Cuba and cold Iceland. Hot and cold; it's a motif of the film.

    - Mr. Kil. I know it's ridiculous, but at least they know it.

    - I like this image very much: korrekt.com/cases/2006/02.11.06_vice_president_dick_cheney_accidentally_shot_harry_whittington/die_another_day_cheney_edit_ABC_02.11.06_0004.jpg

    - The invisible car? It's inspired by real technology. It's fine.

    - Bond surfing the wave... What's the problem with that? Bond shows his resourcefulness in using parts of the vehicle to make his escape. That's pretty cool. The CGI Bond looks fake, but the ice and water look good. It's fine.

    - The car chase... like all car chases in Bond, I've always liked it, but this time I enjoyed it more than before. Zao has his own car full of gadgets? Great! Seeing those cars sliding through the pristine ice... exquisite. Those shotguns, missiles, machineguns and the sounds they make... then, the cars moving through the palace with water all over the place. Aesthetically pleasing. The subtle, self-satisfied smile in Bond's face after he flips the car or tricks Zao into falling into the water... amusing.

    - Bond may have plenty of gadgets to help him in this film, but you have to admit he uses them in clever ways not intended by design... the ejector seat to flip the car, the high-frequency ring to get Jinx into the car.

    - The last part of the film, when we return to Korea, is comparatively uninteresting to all that's come before. But Michael Madsen enlivens it with his jaded demeanor and throaty voice.

    - In the Antonov, Kenneth Tsang once again lends gravitas to the film and the scenes with his son.

    - Graves is off the deep end! Still, he doesn't come off as too threatening. Instead, he seems a bit of a spoiled brat (which he is, when you think about it). At any rate, you do want to see Bond beat this guy.

    - "Looks like your friends have BAILED!" One grows to appreciate these little Brosnan-isms.

    - Amusing touch that of the farmer and the water buffalo looking at the chopper and the sports cars.

    - Great music in the Moneypenny and "leave it in" scenes.

    That's it. This is a good film. If you read this, hopefully it wasn't tedious and/or a waste of your time.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I love his monologue, a great moment there. It's even better with it being a single take and Silva reaches the end of his speech as soon as he's right in front of Bond. Excellently done. I do appreciate the entire rat motif throughout, such as Tanner's comment about the rats running throughout the tunnels of the new HQ, hinting at Bond and Silva's chase later on.
  • edited August 2017 Posts: 1,009
    About Thunderball:
    - Search "King Errisson" (not Erison) on Youtube. It's the bongo player on the Kiss Kiss Club. In the late 70s he did some neat disco grooves. Here's the one I liked the most as a sample.



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    I love QOS ,its my #4 film ,but I still don't know why during that bloody parachute jump,they didn't open it at the start of the sinkhole ..its an annoying blemish.
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