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The problem with Renard is the writing. They gave him a great setup--a villain who can feel no pain and gets stronger until he dies--but it never paid off in the final fight with Bond, and it should have. (P&W did something similar with Stamper in the previous film--odd that they could never get that concept right.)
Also, Zukovsky was better as menacing in GE than goofy/comic relief in TWINE. One gets the sense that his death scene could have been so much more fraught if we actually believed for a second that he might shoot Bond.
The film loses its momentum when Marceau departs, and the climax with Renard and Jones is poor. (Renard needed to threaten *M*, a totally believable damsel-in-distress, not the city of Istanbul with some tacked-on submarine scene.) And of course, the less said about the final line, the better.
The story is one of the stronger recent Bond ones, but the script needed another rewrite.
But I still have it in my top half.
My first Bond film in cinemas, and the only Brosnan Bond i saw on the big screen.
Though i had been a massive Bond by that time already.
The ski scene was and the submarine scenes were the only scenes I didn't enjoy.
I think the ski scene should have been replaced with Bond eating at Elektra mansion and learning more about her family.
I think Skyfall did what TWINE failed to do.
You need the ski sequence - firstly, it's exhilarating and inventive. Secondly, it brings the characters closer together. It establishes Bond falling for Elektra and shows their vulnerability through a fairly traumatic and intense experience....it's a vital sequence in that respect. Also, it's cool and feels like OHMMS (In retrospect, we know that it's a ploy by Elektra to make her more credible and manipulate Bond further. She's wrapping him around her little finger)
Also, I do think that Christmas Jones and Denise Richards gets it in the neck a bit too much.....if it wasn't for 'Wild Things' having come out the year previously, people would have been softer on her. It isn't a bad performance.
In fact, it's pretty misogynistic to say that a beautiful woman can't be a scientist. It's akin to saying 'you're too pretty to be taken seriously.' Also, she wears a hazmat suit to work fr 8+ hours a day in the middle of the *freaking* dessert in Kazakhstan. I don't blame her for wearing that outfit under her suit, she must be sweltering.
But M is in the field this time, pluckily putting herself at risk; the pace is that of a high-velocity bullet; a buzz-saw hanging from a helicopter, designed to clear forests, carves up buildings and Bond's BMW as if slicing the Sunday joint. Christmas Jones, we learn, is so called in order that Bond, the double-entendre agent, can have the climactic pay-off line: 'I thought Christmas came only once a year.'
The single authentic bit of Ian Fleming is to be found in the movie's title. Though no one explains its provenance, it derives from the last book published in Fleming's lifetime, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, in which 007 visits the College of Arms to examine his family tree and is informed that the Bond family motto is 'The World Is Not Enough'.
But it really seems dated and out-of-step in the Craig era.
On the plus side you have Sophie Marceau and Robbie Coltrane, and Desmond Llewelyn’s final moments at Q (“never let them see you bleed”) never fails to leave a lump in my throat. As for Pierce, I think that its’ his most assured performance as Bond, and his wardrobe is definitely a step up from TND.
Still, TWINE will always be known – among general movie fans – for this:
That is glorious.
Of the later scenes i do like the Pipeline sequence and the torture scene. The climax is ok but the fight between Renard and Bond should have been fast and brutal. This guy is supposed to not feel pain and have super strength remember!
The PTS is really good and David Arnolds score just knocks it out of the park. A wonderful Bond score from a guy that knows Bond music.
I think Denise Richards is fine in the film in a really poorly written part.
I like Brosnan in this and he keeps up nicely with the excellent Sophie Marceau.
This regularly vies with TND for my favourite Brosnan film.
Any synopsis of this film should just open with that; Tells you everything you need.
I consider that an insult to both of those films.
That's true; TWINE shouldn't be mentioned alongside either of those films... because it's better than both of them.
From a script point of view TWINE makes a lot more sense than SF
Insider made another video on the realism in films this time with a former submarine commander briefly talking about The World Is Not Enough's final scene. Now of course these type of videos aren't meant to be taken that seriously, but I did find it interesting how he rated the realism a 6/10 considering he was much harsher with other films on the list and many people still complain about how ridiculous the whole sub finale is. Although there is a lot of valid criticism in the video too. Maybe it'll give us something new to think about on the next rewatch?
Here's the clip (TWINE starts at 2:26):
The other:
"You'd miss me."
Bang!
"I never miss."
😯
I love the pipeline control centre scene, there's a bit of urgency there.
Yeah, i like the pipeline scene. The switching between Bond in the pipe and the control room is well edited. I love Arnold's music in the sequence as well.
The action is mostly pretty flat in this, but the boat chase is excellent and the shootout in the bunker is quite good.
No, it reminds me of SF. Craig's portrayal of Bond in NTTD is miles from Brosnan's in TWINE and so is everything else in TWINE.
Can you give other examples of where you think these occur?
Love the boat chase.
Nope.Bond doesn’t retire.He actually sleeps with several women.The movie has a happy ending...
TWINE does remind me of SF though.
@BT3366 I’d have to rewatch it to be honest, it’s been a long time. I just think the entire feel of TWINE is similar to NTTD. Now the ending are very different, of course (to answer @astonlotus). Craig’s Bond’s attitude and style was similar to Brosnan’s imo. Using the machine gun and a high body count (common for Brosnan films). But, I guess that Craig just reminded me more of Brosnan’s Bond in this film. I will rewatch twine and give a better response soon.
I've tried to come around to the film as a whole, however, over time. And I can find things to appreciate. By and large, though, the action is not one of them.