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Hey look, another ghost near that alter!
Yes, I agree that it does look like your stereotypical ghost but some say it is a plague mask that the tall figure is wearing.
The positioning is different..so i dont think its the same,but i know nothing about photography..
Do you mean the plague mask or the figure itself?
Kind of convenient that the monk is hooded. How many priests do church service with their face covered anyway? Unless it's the ghost of a Muslim woman. Actually why do ghosts wear anything? It's not like the police can arrest them for indecency. Shouldn't they all be naked? Or since soul and body are different why are they so often anthropomorphic?
Also who are these experts who confirmed that this photo was not a fake? Can we recreate it? Actually @DarthDimi pretty much answered that last question.
You have to remember that the photo in question was taken back in 1963. There was no Photoshop back then and trickery was much harder to accomplish.
Not true I am afraid, I could have knocked that up in my converted loft when I used to mess about with B and W developing.
Yes, I'm sure it can be done but I'm sure that you know that experts can tell if a picture has been doctored or not and this one has not been. The explanation for what it depicts must therefore lie elsewhere.
I'm aware that they have but this photo has been proven not to have been doctored so the explanation must lie elsewhere, whatever that may be.
But has this picture been taken to real experts, I wonder. I'm not talking about amateur ghost hunters or photographers. I'm talking about experienced professionals from the academic world, who probably couldn't be bothered with this.
People who jump from "we don't understand this" to "so it must be a supernatural event" are the type of people Sherlock has this to say about:
Arthur Conan Doyle was quite taken by these sorts of images and treated me as gospel proof of his spiritualist leanings in his day, while colleagues like Houdini told Doyle not to pursue such fantastical notions. As we all know, the famed magician was first and foremost a man who knew how to dupe people and spent much of his time disproving the "tricks" of others he saw so clearly as fraudulence because he played the same game they did, only better.
Just a nice little tidbit there. ;)
This evidence would be thrown out of any legal court due to it's inherent weakness but us non beleivers are meant to accept it.
We all know that there is no better evidence so the same stuff is wheeled out time and time again. Funny how ghosts have stopped appearing since the invention of the smart phone.
It really is amazing .
Can you imagine if I found an equally blurred photo from 1963 of a flying pig with the claim that nobody had proved it had been tampered with. We all know the answer. But nobody cares about flying pigs, nobody wants it to be true and nobody has an emotional investment so common sense prevails.
I can't believe that in several posts in this thread, we, the so-called "sceptics", are stigmatised when we still resort to cold logic rather than to superstition and make-belief. I'm not a "sceptic", merely someone who left Santa in his childhood memories a long time ago.
Yes, they're called children.
Again: who were the experts? How did they come from this conclusion? Do we have any proof that it is genuine? And again: why the masked face?
It is irrelevant to Bond but then this is the 'General Discussion' section of the forum, so anything goes (within reason!) surely.
I do agree though that it will not serve to change anyone's position on the matter. Perhaps I should not have started it in the first place...
Its an argument nobody can win...believe me i know after 31 years ,since i was 15.
This thread has confirmed that. It's one person's take against another. I just find it a fascinating subject. I do hope the thread continues though as it has generated a lot of interest and debate. Ultimately, people will believe what they want to believe and that is only right and proper of course.
Fair enough ,but you are leaving yourself open to one hell of an onslaught...good luck .
OK, if the mods think it should now be closed I leave it up to them.
And they feel justified in their belief: they see the man flesh and blood and their parents say he's the real Santa.
I for one think this thread is vital and interesting, and I've tried my best to give my viewpoints without causing offense, or worst of all, making someone feel belittled. I'm just here to witness others' responses and thoughts on the nature of life, and for that I'm glad this thread exists, though we are all well fixed in our areas of belief or non-belief. As long as we keep things civil and understand each other, I see no need to axe it, however.
And I think we're all sensible and mature enough to meet that mark.