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You're not alone. I'm a big fan of the MCU and found this entry not only busy but contrived, with way too little characterization for key Avengers (especially Cap, Black Widow and the Vision/Wanda romance) and far too much of the Guardians. Plus ...
The latter two Captain America films remain the high water mark of the MCU.
At least IW has given me one good (indirect) laugh.
Speaking of spoilers, I’ve avoided most social media over the past week and stayed out of this thread for the past month or so. Let’s hope I can make it a few more hours without having something ruined for me.
And for fans. Fans get these movies made from a profitable film studio while dinosaur studios, who are run by out of touch producers are losing money and struggle to get a distributor for a long running and what's supposed to be a "beloved" film series where each subsequent entry as of late not only gets worse but is now barely being made.
@Escalus5, I fully agree. In some respects it seemed like a series of scenes without enough holding it together, despite the magnificent visuals. I agree on
The film hardly leaves comedy mode, while simultaneously Thanos is literally on a killing spree. That and the ending kind of irons out any kind of tension or feeling of stakes.
Yes, I didn't think you meant this, which was why I pointed it out. Your reply in *spoilers* answers this doubt satisfactorily now. Even at 2 hr and 36 mins the movie needed to be even longer to fit in the entire cast. Personally, I think 3 hrs would have helped give certain characters some much-needed additional screen time. However, as this movie is very much a "to be continued" instalment I'll forgive it that.
For me, it's sort of like the OHMSS ending all over again. Maybe the detractors will get their DAF type sequel to be at one with the universe? For once, I feel Marvel have put together a movie that I want to see time and time again. Of course, this could all be undone with its follow up (or Part 2). I'm hoping that the Russo's come up with an ingenious deus ex machina that is worthy of this movie. Personally, I have faith in the Russo Brothers, just like I have faith in James Gunn to deliver the goods.
I see where you're coming from. The first Avengers film did take a while to get going, true. However, I do like that slow 'buildup' to the Hulk's bust out aboard the Helicarrier and the Shield agents give the whole thing a bit of a grounded Bondian spy flavour which I also appreciate.
I'm not sure if this makes any sense, but to an extent there was a bit of 'QoS' to IW for me. I somehow got the same feeling I had upon first viewing of that Bond entry, in the sense that the film just barreled forward from the beginning at a relentless pace and seemed a bit 'bare' in terms of character insights. To an extent, it also reminded me of Batman v. Superman too. That was another film which was really stuffed with a lot of characters. I concede that IW is much better paced.
I'm anxious to make another theatre visit to view it again soon and like you am curious to see what Avengers 4 brings us next year to satisfactorily conclude this story.
PS. I should clarify that Part 2 of IW will define what I truly think of this instalment overall. And I must also point out that I wasn't having a dig at you @bondjames, I was simply saying the overall picture to this movie isn't complete yet and shouldn't be judged as a complete story. The downer ending is justified for its "to be continued" narration.
OHMSS earned its downbeat ending because the story was carefully constructed and the characters given time to breathe.
Most of INFINITY WAR consists of characters being dropped into a scene to announce "We need to go here and do this because reasons," like talking action figures. The exception being Thanos and Gamora, but their conflict belongs in a GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY sequel. (Since I paid $13 to see an Avengers movie, I would have liked to have seen an Avengers movie).
I think my interest in comic book/graphic novel adapted movies has wained, there are too many of them and mediocre for the most part. Though I hear Josh Brolin is brilliant as Thanos so that's the main reason I'll watch Infinity War.
Is that a lot for a superhero film?
The trailer for that did look fun.
It will most certainly be the 2nd biggest domestic opening of all time.
Uh, that's HUGE for ANY film in general. It took SP about 6 months just to hit $200 million. IW made more than half of SP's domestic run in 1 day!
Anyway, my ranking of all 19 films of the MCU...
1 - Infinity War
2 - Black Panther
3 - Winter Soldier
4 - Avengers
5 - Civil War
6 - Iron Man
7 - First Avenger
8 - Spider-man Homecoming
9 - Doctor Strange
10 - Thor Ragnarok
11 - Age of Ultron
12 - Guardians of the Galaxy
13 - Iron Man 3
14 - Guardians of the Galaxy 2
15 - Ant-Man
16 - Thor
17 - Iron Man 2
18 - Thor Dark World
19 - Incredible Hulk
1. Winter Soldier
2. Civil War
3. Avengers
4. First Avenger
5. Iron Man
Not seen BP or IW
Nice to see first Avenger in your top 5. It's a criminally underrated film.
-Winter Soldier
-Iron Man
-Avengers
-Thor Ragnarok
-Civil War
-Iron Man 3
-Infinity War
-Age of Ultron
-Spider Man Homecoming
-Iron Man 2
-Black Panther
-Thor
-Ant Man
-Doctor Strange
-First Avenger
-Thor Dark World
-Incredible Hulk
I haven't seen the Guardians films.
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@bondsum, just to clarify, I was referring to QoS in my post above and not OHMSS. I saw similarities between Craig's second entry and IW in terms of the very action driven narrative without a lot of clarifying background for those who haven't followed the entire universe (similar to how QoS could seem a tad disjointed unless viewed as a CR sequel). Oh, and I quite agree with you that IW can only be properly judged once its sequel is out next year to complete the story.
The Captain America films make a great trilogy
They certainly do. It's my favourite comic book trilogy and to think, when they announced they were making the first film I was certain it would flop. So happy things turned out differently.
I suspect my rankings may change somewhat by the time spider-man homecoming 2 comes out next year but I'm just glad these films in general are good. It's a great time for fans.
In terms of consistent quality the Cap films certainly give The Dark Knight Trilogy a run for its money, I am a big fan of WW1 and WW2 era movies I was quietly confident with the First Avenger and the film was certainly in Joe Johnston's wheelhouse having made films like The Rocketeer.