Definitive best 5 bond films and worst5 in no particular order

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  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    JediDunch wrote: »
    TWINE isn t exactly the same standard as GF.
    No they're the same

    Woah. Slow down. GF is in the running for the definitive classic spy film.
    TWINE is a mediocre Bond film with some interesting bits here and there.

    I'd have to give the honor to FRWL (or even DN as a close second). It feels like a spy film, whereas GF was the point where Bond became its own genre.

    Agreed...it has all the ingredients of a fantastic spy film,and keeps the viewer on edge,you just know that sooner or later Bond is going to face Grant,and it builds the tension up all the way through...an absolute top top top noth spy/Bond film.

    The script for FRWL is the best in the series, I think, from a structure standpoint. Like everything in Young's movies, no moment is wasted and everything is important and necessary that we see.

    The best thing about the film is how the story builds up to that moment between Bond and Grant every step of the way, resulting in the best section of any Bond film for me on the Orient Express. In my FRWL review I say this of Grant:

    As "From Russia with Love" begins and we spot Grant seeking out a faux-Bond to strangle, the screenplay is already crafting a Chekhov’s gun for audiences that is more like a bazooka.

    It's part of why Maibaum is king.
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    I love its seedy, musty atmosphere. You can smell the streets of Istanbul as well as the damp air of the mosque.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    BAIN123 wrote: »
    I love its seedy, musty atmosphere. You can smell the streets of Istanbul as well as the damp air of the mosque.
    This is something they'd better get right in the next film. One of my favourite scenes is Tatiana's intro, as she's first seen on the street & then walks through corridors & tunnel'esque streets to meet Klebb, with Barry's sinister score playing the background. Superb stuff.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    It's the most Spy bond film
  • GBFGBF
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    It's the most Spy bond film

    Yes and I wish that we get more of that in the future...
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    Top 5

    OHMSS
    TLD
    CR
    LTK
    FRWL

    Bottom 5 (too obvious for me!)

    DAD
    TND
    GE
    TWINE
    DAF (Though it has its moments, and I would prob watch it and enjoy it more than the above 4!!)
  • NSGWNSGW London
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    Mathis1 wrote: »
    Top 5

    OHMSS
    TLD
    CR
    LTK
    FRWL

    Bottom 5 (too obvious for me!)

    DAD
    TND
    GE
    TWINE
    DAF (Though it has its moments, and I would prob watch it and enjoy it more than the above 4!!)

    I like that top five a lot.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    NSGW wrote: »
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    Top 5

    OHMSS
    TLD
    CR
    LTK
    FRWL

    Bottom 5 (too obvious for me!)

    DAD
    TND
    GE
    TWINE
    DAF (Though it has its moments, and I would prob watch it and enjoy it more than the above 4!!)

    I like that top five a lot.

    Agreed for the top
  • edited March 2017 Posts: 11,189
    I can't put TLD above FRWL, although TLD is a solid film in its own right.

    Incidentally, FRWL is Dalton's favourite.

    Also on a sidenote FRWL features the best Moneypenny scene, while TLD features the worst (and yes I'm including the DAD VR scene in that),
  • JediDunch wrote: »
    TWINE isn t exactly the same standard as GF.
    No they're the same

    Woah. Slow down. GF is in the running for the definitive classic spy film.
    TWINE is a mediocre Bond film with some interesting bits here and there.

    I'd have to give the honor to FRWL (or even DN as a close second). It feels like a spy film, whereas GF was the point where Bond became its own genre.

    I rank FRWL in my top five, and GF just outside of it, but because GF kinda forged the Bond name, then to me it's in the discussion for the most influential spy film ever made. But on a film-to-film comparison, prefer the more grounded, grittier, tougher FRWL.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    BAIN123 wrote: »
    I can't put TLD above FRWL, although TLD is a solid film in its own right.

    Incidentally, FRWL is Dalton's favourite.

    It's Sean's (I think) and Dan's favorite too. Pierce's is probably Goldfinger, as that film shaped his life afterward.
    BAIN123 wrote: »
    Also on a sidenote FRWL features the best Moneypenny scene, while TLD features the worst (and yes I'm including the DAD VR scene in that),

    "Let me tell you the secrets of the world..."
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    Well I'm a Dalton fan, so TLD has to come ahead of FRWL. Though I have to concur that Caroline Bliss was very poor as Moneypenny, even more so in LTK! (Though her appearance, thankfully was more brief!)
    Samantha Bond I thought was ok, but she quickly became more annoying, so I was glad she wasn't held over for the Craig era!
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I really enjoyed Bliss in TLD, I wish that they gad done more with her in LTK and retained her for the Brosnan Era.

    I don't like the soppy school girl with a crush style of her character and she flirted with Bond in an obvious and unconvincing way. She also does the same over-the-top sigh at the end of her scene that Smallbone did in OP.
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    We disagree then. The one that I can't stomach is Samantha Bond.

    I'm the opposite, I like her. Far better actress, though I agree that her last line in DAD is dire.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I think the only positive that came from Dalton's era ending so soon is that we never had to endure Bliss in the role again. Part of that's on her weak and wooden performance, but it's also in the writing. Maibaum gets everything else right, but snoozes on writing a great Moneypenny character that he helped birth. Moneypenny goes from Maxwell's feisty and witty woman to Bliss's meek and dorky girl with a crush. Maxwell's Moneypenny played with Bond, Bliss's fawned over him desperately. How'd that happen, exactly? And Barry Manilow? Christ girl, you've lost the plot. She should've offered Bond an angle food cake...

    Some seem not to like her, but Naomie Harris' Moneypenny is the only take on the character I even think about after Lois. She's able to act feisty and fun and match Craig's Bond wit for wit, as any Moneypenny should be able to do. She was amazing in the Macau section of SF, and I liked her use in SP as well. Elegant, sassy, sarcastic and playful. A nice package.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I really enjoyed Bliss in TLD, I wish that they gad done more with her in LTK and retained her for the Brosnan Era.
    Birdleson wrote: »
    We disagree then. The one that I can't stomach is Samantha Bond.

    Agreed on both counts. Bliss didn't get to do a whole lot as Moneypenny, but what little she did do, I thought that she was just fine. Samantha Bond on the other hand, oh god, her Moneypenny was so heavy handed... it's like probing my inner ear canal with a chainsaw.
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    MAXWELL
    HARRIS
    BOND
    BLISS.....in that order.
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    MAXWELL
    HARRIS
    BOND
    BLISS.....in that order.

    Saving bliss until last eh?
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    MAXWELL
    HARRIS
    BOND
    BLISS.....in that order.

    Absolutely.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    If anyone cares
    Maxwell
    Bliss
    Bond
    Harris- like her but hasn't had enough time to prove herself
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Maxwell

    (largest gap ever)

    Bond (even though she acts like a bit of a feminazi, I prefer her to Harris)
    Harris (too much of an action girl. Doesn't suit the behind the desk type. Miscast)
    Bliss (useless but cute)
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Casino Royale
    Quantum of Solace
    Skyfall
    From Russia with Love

    Diamonds are forever
    You Only Live Twice
    Live and let die
    A view to a kill
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Massive respect to you for having QoS at #3, @Walecs.
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    Oi ,i have it at #4 Brady !!
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    Massive respect to you for having QoS at #3, @Walecs.

    Thank you ;)
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    Oi ,i have it at #4 Brady !!
    Yes, @barryt007, but it's not at number 3 now, is it? ;)
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    hahaha you cheeky bugger....bravo !
  • GBFGBF
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    My ranking would be:

    Maxwell (of the Connery and Lazenby years)
    Bliss (I don't mind her)
    Harris (she is nice)
    Bond (depends on my mood if I like her or not)
    Maxwell (the old Granny from the Moore era)
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    Oi ,i have it at #4 Brady !!
    Yes, @barryt007, but it's not at number 3 now, is it? ;)

    I have it at 5, now I don't suppose that gets me any closer to 3 right?
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    Oi ,i have it at #4 Brady !!
    Yes, @barryt007, but it's not at number 3 now, is it? ;)

    I have it at 5, now I don't suppose that gets me any closer to 3 right?

    It wouldn't impress me, no. This coming from someone who has QoS above #5 (I love Connery's early films too much), so aren't I a hypocrite?
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