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"Crab dance".
Hopefully you will all pick up this post. Please offer feedback, as the thread will remain open for a few days or until it descends into spam, whichever comes first ;)
Anyway, we have become increasingly aware that some of our forum rulings have not been accepted very well in some quarters. We have been accused of being draconian in our moderating duties, and even been told we are running the place like a police state. This is mainly by ex members, but I'm sure current ones hold certain views which may go against our normal rulings.
As usual the main bug bear is swearing. We have always tried to stamp it out, traditionally because our minimum membership age is 13. We always strived to make this as much a family friendly forum as possible.
We do however recognise that there is a difference between swearing in an aggressive and hostile manner, and someone offering a film quote with a particularly fruity adjective in it. Therefore we have tried to be reasonable when it comes to moderating the tone of said language.
The problem is, there are always grey areas, and if we warn someone for persistent swearing they could easily get upset due to how they perceive the tone or meaning of their bad language. This will of course lead to more fall out which we always try to avoid.
I don't want to waffle on about this, but its a debate we can have between ourselves, and hopefully compromise and move forward. The last thing we want is to see members disappear because they feel unfairly treated, when a message to a mod can resolve all kinds of differences.
As a result of this we will strive to be relax the way we view any bad language we see. But, if we do request someone to tone it down and they take particular offence please remember you can message one of the mods and we will always be approachable and accommodating.
It really isn't the end of the world, it's just a bunch of Bond fans having a chat.
Thanks for your time
We've reached out to admins with no reply yet.
Beyond swearing when responses get personally heated and/or severely off topic and a warning is given, I support deletion og following posts repeating or responding to the offense. Usually the proper thread is already suggested to get back on subject and continue conversation. As long as the provocative or off-topic posts exist they naturally draw more of the same.
I also recognize it can be hard to single out mischief-makers and pot stirrers. And singling them out is appreciated.
Times leading up to the film release on these type forums historically draw sensitive reactions, pushing back on perceived insults or unsupported claims. For anyone it's best to avoid making chronically negative comments on any subject, that goes for new posters alongside mods. Especially in the growing climate, introducing a steady negative drumbeat into discussions goes beyond free speech and quickly becomes boorish behavior.
I've just sent a reminder to the admin and asked for this to be done. It's one button the mods don't have unfortunately.
Which is unfortunate considering we have buttons for pretty much everything else:
But where can we order this pizza? :-?
You can't, sadly. It's a mod's privilege. @NicNac always has a double pepperoni, @Creasy47 prefers anything with extra cheese, @Benny is the one who craves anchovies, @MajorDSmythe wants chips on top and I'll settle for nothing less than a pizza with bacon, garlic and gorgonzola. Now, don't get me started on @Samuel001, @DiscoVolante and @Birdleson... the pizza's they like are--look, let's just say it was a traumatic experience for the lot of us seeing them devour that filth. (I'm still in therapy because of it.)
Looks delicious to me.
Good! You know what the doctor said, @Creasy47. "No more greasy for big boy Creasy."
We have people everywhere...
@Fire_and_Ice_Returns
I do so too. I believe we're all clever enough to find the means to express ourselves in a colourful way without using some of the more explicit swear words. There's some fun in that. At the same time, I'm glad you agree that we need a few basic rules to keep the forum safe from turmoil.
We haven't put an auto-censor bot on this, though. We're still people who can assess the general context and tone of a profanity-rich sentence. But even if we concede that no-one was meant any harm, we may still feel that a polite request to tone things down is needed, before things get out of hand.
As mods, we rarely reprimand or warn or ban; our first intention is always to approach a member with reasonable and friendly requests, not with demands, reproaches or even soft admonishments. What happens next, however, is critical. Sometimes, a member feels backstabbed by us just for being asked to please consider the rules. Sometimes, good-willed advice is misread as us scolding a member for something. Sometimes, digital doors are slammed shut, the mods are called fascists and stuff gets blown out of proportion.
But let us not forget that we're all guests here. It's only polite that we live by the rules of our hosts. Our job, first and foremost, is reminding people of those rules every once in a while. ;-)
It's now been changed.
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Sorry. Just wanted to get that in before the inevitable close.
Just when I thought this thread was about moderation...
It has been just over 2 weeks since I read somewhere that the Community was suffering a 'mass exodus'. And since that time we have seen interaction in over 150 different threads, including 36 new pages to the NTTD production thread (despite having nothing new to report).
It's great to see the place so well supported by true Bond fans. Long may it continue.
Anyway, everyone to the bar, drinks are on @Benny .
Perhaps just one thread would do it ?
If you've already got threads in addition to the Harry Palmer one, I apologize for missing it and ask that you please kindly direct me.
Boysie was indeed a nickname. His real name was Brian Ian Oakes. Of course Boysie Oakes was created by John Gardner who later went on to pen fourteen original Bond continuation novels and two Bond film novelisations. Gardner explained how he came up with the name of his hero in an introduction to the novels reissued in paperback in the 1980s. He told of how he was on the top of a double decker bus and an older lady was telling off her grandson or whatever the relationship was by saying, "Be a good little boysie." At the same time the bus was going through a clump of oak trees so the name Boysie Oakes suddenly came to him as the name of his lead character. I'm, relying on memory there as I've not read that introduction for a good while but that's the gist of it. I always found it an interesting explanation of where the unusual sounding name came from. It just goes to show how chance occurrences can spark creative ideas.
As to starting a new general thread covering there sadly rather forgotten characters I'd say go for it as I don't believe we have any threads on that specific subject matter. It would certainly be very interesting to discuss in-depth and I would certainly be an willing participant in that. A Google search using the "mi6 community" trick has confirmed that there is no existing thread on this subject matter. I think that should give you a green light to go ahead and start a new thread on this fascinating subject.
This thread is for mods to make announcements which may or may not be of interest to the masses. I will lock this for now.