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I just find it more exciting.
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I ranked this 24/25 simply because it's tracked from Casino Royale. I don't actually object to the 'bebop' section of the James Bond theme being used for the gun barrel sequence.
I initially thought Thomas Newman was quite lazy lifting David Arnold's arrangement until I saw the Sound Of 007 documentary where he admitted that he tried his own version, but couldn't best it.
As an aside, it's so nice to see so many people active in the music section of the forum. It's been really quiet here of late!
I watched the documentary sometime ago but had forgotten about that! Something like that also happened with the track titled Breadcrumbs. In the film, the opening brass chords recorded by Newman were replaced with the corresponding bit from The Name's Bond...James Bond, from Casino Royale, because the Arnold version clearly sounded better-- more full-bodied and powerful.
Agreed.
Haha! Good thinking, but no, I'm actually going to see how much time I leave between each ranking reveal. I think it depends on how much discussion takes place.
I think isn't it also that Newman didn't write that piece anyway? It's a big, fast-moving production so they have to get orchestrators to some cues for them, and stuff like that would be the first you'd give to someone else to do because the Bond theme is already written- they just have to make it fit. Like Newman didn't write the casino arrival cue because it's just Adele's tune.
CASINO ROYALE
The highest ranking it achieved was 1st place, and the lowest was 25th place. Apart from that 1st place, it received a 12th and a 15th place, with all other voters ranking it between the 21st and 25th places.
Casino Royale scored a total of 67 points.
I ranked it 24th. Once again, great music, but it just can't beat the excitement of the Bond theme!
What do you think?
Just the first notes of the title song. As gunbarrel music, difficult to put any higher.
NO TIME TO DIE
The highest ranking it achieved was 10th place, and the lowest was 22nd place. A couple of voters gave it 10th and 11th places, with the rest of voters ranking it quite closely, between 17th and 22nd place.
No Time to Die scored a total of 80 points.
I ranked it 21st. My low ranking is explained partly because I prefer my gunbarrels when they feature the riff of the Bond theme, which this one doesn't (having said that, for me, the NTTD gunbarrel still beats another gunbarrel that does feature the riff, but which I feel is a bit bland). I also ranked NTTD quite low because I feel it doesn't do something new with the Bond theme, except using the guitar, in its traditional Bondian sound, to play the chromatic vamp-- a good idea, for sure, but not that interesting.
The opening string chords reprised from Spectre are still pretty great, though.
What about you? Where does NTTD fit in the pantheon of gunbarrel music for you?
Funny really, I don't like it when they just repeat what came before, as with this one, but I like it when they repeat what came before, with the riff and all that! :D
Regretfully, for me, Zimmer does neither, plays it fairly safe and does a journeyman's job without much uniqueness to it.
This, exactly.
The riff part of the Bond theme is more dramatic and compelling, thus better suited for the gunbarrel. Sticking to that structure, while inherently repetitive in some ways (and not in others), is not only acceptable, but enjoyable.
Also, it kind of harks back to GoldenEye 64! I think it is pretty dramatic and compelling in itself; I think there's an argument that it's more dramatic than the riff, because it's a bigger statement and has more of a big, powerful full stop to it. I am with you in preferring the riff though!
I must admit I do like the creeping vamp under the logos though, and wouldn't mind it continuing. Maybe if they come up with a different way of doing it; and certainly none of that Universal logo messing with the graphics!
I so agree with you. There has been a slide in the recent films of the logo music "drafting off" the gunbarrel music mystique...like bottom-of-the-screen advertisements interrupting your favorite TV program.
The essence of the gunbarrel has been lost.
Give me silence and blackness leading into the gunbarrel music again. Please.
DIE ANOTHER DAY
and
QUANTUM OF SOLACE
The highest ranking achieved by DAD was 7th place, and the lowest was 24th place. There was 1 vote in the ones, 6 in the tens and 3 in the twenties.
The highest ranking achieved by QoS was 11th place, and the lowest was 25th place. There were 6 votes in the tens and 4 in the twenties.
Both films scored a total of 84 points.
I ranked DAD in the 14th place. Much like the film, this gunbarrel music is about excess (just listen to that drum loop and those heavy drumlike sounds), and, much like the film, this gunbarrel music is a lot of fun, in its ADHD kind of way. Distinctive, too. I especially like that Brosnan finally got to have his big, bold orchestral chords over the moving dots. I wouldn't rank this one higher because other gunbarrels are a bit more elegant in their arrangements, but it's a lot of fun nonetheless.
I ranked QoS in the 22nd place. Although I like that it features the riff (unlike the other Craig gunbarrels), and the arrangement is quite pleasing to the ear, it's still fairly generic. I actually ranked QoS below NTTD, which has no riff. This is an edge case for me, as I tend to prefer gunbarrels that feature the riff.
What do you think? You're welcome to compare and contrast these two gunbarrels.
I put QOS towards the bottom of my list, but again mainly because it was an unusual one. It marked the return of the triangle jangling as Bond walks along, just like a Roger gunbarrel, so for that reason alone it can never come last :)
As for DAD, I get that Arnold was trying to make each gunbarrel unique-sounding like Barry sometimes used to do (see also: TWINE)...I'm just not a fan of this particular arrangement. I think it's trying too hard.
DAD I actually really love, I placed it 7th. I like the early 2000 techno-vibes that it has and there’s a lot of energy to it as well.
Yeah, and the older I get, the more I like the "2000 techno-vibes."
Yet another bit of craziness in this gunbarrel music.