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Sure we can survive don’t get me wrong. I’m just saying that’s not even Bond related. It’s a pic of a Rian Johnson film. Chatting about Corona here is OT obviously but at least Corona has something to do with the fate of this film. XD
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Personally I think it'll be a welcome break, we've seen quite a lot of the city in the last two films
You make a brilliant point.
I think though they perhaps wouldn't be moaning as much if it were delivered by Green today because there's an obvious difference between her and Lynch.
I notice that the people who do describe her as that are mostly only familiar with her from her performance as a robot in Solo. And they seem to think that she wrote it 8-|
Totally agree with your point, just as a side issue I think when you watch her scenes Seydoux is doing absolutely everything she can to make Madeline's softening towards Bond over the course of her scenes work: she's throwing in little looks and body language wherever she can, it's just that the script doesn't give her much to work with.
Chalk that up to many fingers in the pie having four different writers and a director who really didn't want to make the film and exhausted his vision completely with Skyfall.
That's not really the point with Nomi, is it? Yes, she's a female character but I never got the impression that she was supposed to be a Bond girl, she's another 00 agent who happens to be female. Is she as "traditionally" attractive as Lea and Ana? Perhaps not. Does she look the part of a young, combat trained, up and coming 00 operative? Definitely.
Nomi's character as a whole challenges the idea that every female character in a Bond movie exists to serve as eye candy, and I for one am here for it.
She gives such a compelling performance in the film, very glad she's back. The women in Fukunaga's major works always have such a moral weight and emphasis in the journey. I think a lot about "Maniac" and how it may relate to how he portrays their [Bond and Swann] relationship in NTTD — this idea of acceptance.
Why thank you, I’m well aware of that , but the world of Bond is not about reality. I go to a Bond film for a lot of things, one of them is attractive women. How myopic to think that a beautiful woman isn’t capable of roles that are more substantial than “eye candy.”.
Nobody is saying that a beautiful woman isn't capable of a more substantial role, it's that not every woman in a Bond film needs to be a "beautiful woman." Sure, Bond isn't about reality, but it is a refreshing change to not have every supporting female character look like a supermodel, especially when the role doesn't necessitate it.
Traditional beauty (which is largely subjective) has become a prerequisite for being a Bond girl and we've got two Bond girls in Madeleine and Paloma that fit the bill. I think it's wise to cast the actress who best embodies the role of a new 00 regardless of how beautiful she is.
There’s already Lea Seydoux and Ana de Armas. Hell, even Naomie Harris. Plenty of attractive women in this flick, why should one actress who’s not meant to be eye candy be problematic? Was this also an issue with Judi Dench?
That’s all I have to say on this.
Nobody is telling you to find her attractive. What are you going on about?
Although she wasn't exactly horrible-looking in her day! :)
Look at the original 1960s Star Trek, EVERY female officer on Kirk's ship can qualify for modeling. Skip right to the 80s with The Next Generation which featured middle aged women as officers. That would have NEVER happened in the 60s. This is why when women reached a certain age that they were relegated to playing motherly roles.
To be fair I just took it as an observation, I don't think she's especially attractive either. And I will evaluate those things since she's shown dressed up at the club in Jamaica and other venues.
She's also not presented in the trailers as very likable. That could help the story, or the film could make her outright loveable.
Same here. I actually forget that Zimmer is scoring the film from time to time and the reminders get me super excited when they hit me.
Am getting sick to death of all the juvenile "anti-woke" WHINING that seems to permeate everything these days.
I guess it might be for the official Bond podcast which he presents. Even if not we probably won’t hear this interview until the film starts getting publicised I would guess.
It's indeed for the podcast, and I guess we'll see the marketing machine kicking back into full gear in a few weeks or so.
Well, Nomi isn't UN-attractive. That said, not all female characters have to be attractive:
I think that's an attitude that still needs to change because it's never a conversation that comes up with villains or allies. No one complains when Felix or M aren't attractive, but for some reason (probably because of how Bond girls are viewed and the more heterosexual view of the franchise), the female characters "have to be".
I think when growth in terms of female characters is mentioned by these actresses, this is what they're talking about. The character should be important, not whether you would or not.
Also, as a bisexual man myself, I've never been attracted to a James Bond actor. Does that mean it affects my opinion of them as the character? No.
And if beauty is subjective (which it is), then it's impossible to find every single Bond girl attractive anyway. So what's the problem in this case tbh?
Like Halle Berry I wish she had her hair longer. It's all about the character but I see no wrong in appreciating beauty ...
Yup, totally agree. If you look at our MI6 crew we've got Whishaw playing Q, and I know he's not exactly break-the-mirror ugly or anything but he has fairly quirky looks; and then we've got Naomie Harris who is stunningly gorgeous. Rory Kinnear hasn't been doing many fashion shoots in glossy magazines that I've seen either. Men are allowed to be interesting-looking but women have to be perfect and beautiful: there's no reason why they can't be both.