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  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited August 2021 Posts: 18,282
    Mods_R_thin_skinned wrote: »
    Some moderators (and I am presuming particularly @Benny ) have banned many long time members here over the years, such as @Gustav_Graves . When will the good moderators finally get rid of the insecure, power hungry ones?

    Btw, feel free to ban this account @Benny , I will be back with another one.

    @Gustav_Graves actually asked to have his account here banned back in November 2017 as he didn't want to keep coming back here as a member constantly. He wanted to concentrate on his Bond writings and not be distracted by posting here all the time. He left open the option of returning to the account at a later date so it wasn't your regular banning by any stretch of the imagination and therefore not a good example to illustrate your point with.
  • Mods_R_thin_skinnedMods_R_thin_skinned
    Posts: 4
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Mods_R_thin_skinned wrote: »
    Some moderators (and I am presuming particularly @Benny ) have banned many long time members here over the years, such as @Gustav_Graves . When will the good moderators finally get rid of the insecure, power hungry ones?

    Btw, feel free to ban this account @Benny , I will be back with another one.

    @Gustav_Graves actually asked to have his account here banned back in November 2017 as he didn't want to keep coming back here as a member constantly. He wanted to concentrate on his Bond writings and not be distracted by posting here all the time. He left open the option of returning to the account at a later date so it wasn't your regular banning by any stretch of the imagination and therefore not a good example to illustrate your point with.

    Gustav_Graves left this forum twice. Once because he wanted to leave and once because he got banned.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited August 2021 Posts: 18,282
    Mods_R_thin_skinned wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Mods_R_thin_skinned wrote: »
    Some moderators (and I am presuming particularly @Benny ) have banned many long time members here over the years, such as @Gustav_Graves . When will the good moderators finally get rid of the insecure, power hungry ones?

    Btw, feel free to ban this account @Benny , I will be back with another one.

    @Gustav_Graves actually asked to have his account here banned back in November 2017 as he didn't want to keep coming back here as a member constantly. He wanted to concentrate on his Bond writings and not be distracted by posting here all the time. He left open the option of returning to the account at a later date so it wasn't your regular banning by any stretch of the imagination and therefore not a good example to illustrate your point with.

    Gustav_Graves left this forum twice. Once because he wanted to leave and once because he got banned.

    Yes, the first time he left of his own accord and specifically asked to be banned to stop him coming back and being distracted by the Bond forums. In August 2019 he then returned under the new username @GertGettler without going through the agreed procedure of asking to return to his veteran @Gustav_Graves account. He posted here for two months before he was banned in October 2019.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,428
    ggl007 wrote: »

    Excellent news, thank you.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 7,582
    Mods_R_thin_skinned wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    James Page made a rare visit on these forums, just in time for your banning. I wouldn’t be surprised.

    @JamesPage is even worse than any mod. He once had a good relationship with EON, but that's the past and now he frequently posts BS articles on MI6-HQ painting EON in a negative light as revenge. So petty and childish. Remember that BS article they published just before the press conference back in the Spring of 2019?

    Seriously though, no fan forum treats its members with as much contempt as MI6community does. To be fair though, not every mod here is bad, @Samuel001 for example is a great guy and if every MI6 mod behaved like he does, this would be a much more pleasant place.

    For the record we have banned 3 people in the last 5 years. One of the reasons we ban people is for provocative behaviour designed to inflame unrest. Also, we ban people for opening multiple accounts which are clearly designed to take pot shots at the mods.....

    Oh, hello @Mods_R_thin_skinned , congratulations on ticking so many boxes.


  • antovolkantovolk
    Posts: 3,164
    matt_u wrote: »
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    ertert wrote: »
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    Mr_Beach wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/no-time-to-die-box-office-projection-for-october-2021

    “And this is where things get difficult for a film budgeted in a pre-pandemic world: 'No Time To Die' now needs to clear $928m at the box office to avoid losing money.”

    Complete BS, as usual. MI6-HQ used to be trustworthy, but that stopped being the case many many years ago. Now it's worse than your average rag.

    To be fair, it's not BS, but, even with the figures and calculations, I think it's still a bit simplistic. Eon/MGM/Universal will weight up, as best they can, the BO potential for Oct/Nov release during these extremely unpredictable times. Not an easy task, but they also have to balance this against how much more money they will continue to lose if they again postpone the release. Also, a good quarter - or even more - of a big film's profits come - only a few months later - from streaming, cable, TV pre-sales/sales, dvd/BluRay (which, to be fair, is lower these days, but still substantial for a big film) etc.. Bond, as a huge franchise, has another advantage, NTTD, like all Bonds, will have a very, very long shelf life. And if it's a classic 007 film, which it looks likely to be, then that will sustain its life, its income and future profits. I reckon they are being realistic and sober minded and forecasting a theatrical performance (US and international) around $700 - 800 million bucks, but hoping that good reviews and strong word of mouth drive the figure up higher than that. (F9 got pretty poor reviews - friends of mine thought it was rubbish - but it still got close to $700 million.) We will soon find out.

    Don't mean to put you on the spot, but how do you feel about the film sticking to its current date? You are a very respected member of this community and I'd love to hear what you think.

    Well, the UK is nearly through its third wave with some 80% of the population vaccinated. And the UK is a hot spot for big Bond audiences, so I think Eon etc. will not miss this opportunity. Europe is getting better as well, so by Oct there could be a sweet spot for the international release. The US is more difficult with so many still unvaccinated and many not wanting the vaccination at all (crazy!!!!), so NTTD might suffer a bit there, but Bond has always been bigger for the international markets - so, to answer your question, yes the release should go ahead as planned.

    It’s hard to predict what’s gonna happen within the next two months, but EU is not getting better. Let’s say everything is still under control but for Bond there are two big factor in play: the risk of new cases spiking after a summer of traveling and parties - just like what happened last year - and the fact that in most of the countries unvaccinated people won’t be able to enter a movie theater (recently in NY as well). We already saw what happened in France with theaters suffering a 70% drop after that new restriction. Plus, there is also a lot of conversation regarding a third dose of the vaccine in order to fight the Delta variant, fueling the fear that vaccines could be ineffective.

    Point is the general perception is that the pandemic isn’t going anywhere, it’s a super uncertain time because of that bloody variant. Back in June was different because before the Delta spread the future seemed brighter. Now people looks at September with anxiety, fearing more restrictions (that are already starting to taking place in some places, even China).

    I strongly believe that NTTD will come out in two months, but not because the overall situation got that better, only because they just cannot wait anymore and they made peace with the fact that this film is a lost cause.

    A big point to bear in mind is this fragmentation now - everyone is not only in a different pace with vaccinations as well as mandating other measures like the 'COVID passes' - but also just the outright outlook on Delta. Remember that all of our cases in the UK are Delta and as Colonel said, we are nearly through this wave despite all restrictions being lifted (and the vaccines are effective against Delta, as long as everyone gets both doses). The wildly more (but can't argue against the positives of that) panicked outlook of the US on the variant is interesting to watch.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,306
    The current hope is that the US follows the trajectory of the UK on Delta, so that the US cases peak in early September. So maybe an October release here could be possible...

    But half of my fellow citizens are still not vaccinated for various reasons (access, stupidity), so who knows?
  • 007007x007007x
    Posts: 55
    A soundtrack sample was posted on YouTube today. Not sure if it is fan-made, what do you guys think?

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,978
    That's about as fake as it gets - bizarre "download" link and the comments/like and dislike bar have been disabled.
  • 007007x007007x
    Posts: 55
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    That's about as fake as it gets - bizarre "download" link and the comments/like and dislike bar have been disabled.

    Yeah that’s what I thought too, but when I listened to it, it sounded pretty real.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    The track after the gunbarrel is fan made. I’ve listened to it many times. It’s a terrific job regardless.
  • antovolkantovolk
    edited August 2021 Posts: 3,164
    The way it interpolates the title song is very impressive!
    jake24 wrote: »
    The track after the gunbarrel is fan made. I’ve listened to it many times. It’s a terrific job regardless.

    ahhhh there we go! thank you. I had wondered...
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    antovolk wrote: »
    The way it interpolates the title song is very impressive!
    jake24 wrote: »
    The track after the gunbarrel is fan made. I’ve listened to it many times. It’s a terrific job regardless.

    ahhhh there we go! thank you. I had wondered...
    Yes, it’s fantastic and very John Barry/David Arnold sounding. Here’s the original video:

  • BMB007BMB007
    Posts: 564
    echo wrote: »
    The current hope is that the US follows the trajectory of the UK on Delta, so that the US cases peak in early September. So maybe an October release here could be possible...

    But half of my fellow citizens are still not vaccinated for various reasons (access, stupidity), so who knows?

    US release isn't in question at all as there is no political will to shut anything down. The people who are unvaccinated would have no fear about movie theaters.

    If it releases in Europe on time, it'll definitely release here.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,306
    BMB007 wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    The current hope is that the US follows the trajectory of the UK on Delta, so that the US cases peak in early September. So maybe an October release here could be possible...

    But half of my fellow citizens are still not vaccinated for various reasons (access, stupidity), so who knows?

    US release isn't in question at all as there is no political will to shut anything down. The people who are unvaccinated would have no fear about movie theaters.

    If it releases in Europe on time, it'll definitely release here.

    Incorrect. If the wave gets bad enough, they will have to shut theaters down again.

    Also, note that NYC will require vaccinations for movie theaters. That's a big market for Bond.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/03/nyregion/new-york-city-vaccine-mandate.html
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    edited August 2021 Posts: 3,022
    Craig filming in London July 2019. Can aynone fix copies or links so I can download the damn thing?

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/9411851/daniel-craig-tight-trousers-james-bond-25-london/
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/9513457/james-bond-crew-windowless-containers-daniel-craig/
  • BMB007BMB007
    Posts: 564
    echo wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    The current hope is that the US follows the trajectory of the UK on Delta, so that the US cases peak in early September. So maybe an October release here could be possible...

    But half of my fellow citizens are still not vaccinated for various reasons (access, stupidity), so who knows?

    US release isn't in question at all as there is no political will to shut anything down. The people who are unvaccinated would have no fear about movie theaters.

    If it releases in Europe on time, it'll definitely release here.

    Incorrect. If the wave gets bad enough, they will have to shut theaters down again.

    Also, note that NYC will require vaccinations for movie theaters. That's a big market for Bond.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/03/nyregion/new-york-city-vaccine-mandate.html

    They *should* shut theaters down. There's lots of things public officials *should* do. I'm saying, however, there is not the political will or appetite to do it.

    Like, look at California. Newsom is fighting for his life. He's not going to shutdown movie theaters and embolden the recall people. It'd be the equivalent of him biting his cyanide capsule!
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    My prediction is that NTTD will be the best DC Bond film and, ironically, the one with the lowest gross.
  • MattiaDeVarti007MattiaDeVarti007 Italy
    Posts: 316
    Contraband wrote: »
    Craig filming in London July 2019. Can aynone fix copies or links so I can download the damn thing?

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/9411851/daniel-craig-tight-trousers-james-bond-25-london/


    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/9513457/james-bond-crew-windowless-containers-daniel-craig/

    If you have a mail I can share with you the video
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    edited August 2021 Posts: 3,022
    ..
    MattiaDeVarti007 wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    Craig filming in London July 2019. Can aynone fix copies or links so I can download the damn thing?

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/9411851/daniel-craig-tight-trousers-james-bond-25-london/


    https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/9513457/james-bond-crew-windowless-containers-daniel-craig/

    If you have a mail I can share with you the video

    @MattiaDeVarti007 Thanks for the help :-)

  • MattiaDeVarti007MattiaDeVarti007 Italy
    Posts: 316
    My pleasure😉
  • MalloryMallory
    edited August 2021 Posts: 2,165
    matt_u wrote: »
    My prediction is that NTTD will be the best DC Bond film and, ironically, the one with the lowest gross.

    Both CR and QoS did $600m, but accounting for inflation (2006) thats $800m, so you could be right.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    Mallory wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    My prediction is that NTTD will be the best DC Bond film and, ironically, the one with the lowest gross.

    Both CR and QoS did $600m, but accounting for inflation (2006) thats $800m, so you could be right.

    I think that NTTD unfortunately will struggle to cross the $500 million mark.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,730
    its closing out the arc that started with casino Royale guys!
  • PDJamesBondPDJamesBond
    Posts: 669
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    its closing out the arc that started with casino Royale guys!

    I can't believe it's been 15 years. I remember the build-up to CR so vividly. I won't say it feels like yesterday, but it sure doesn't feel like a decade and a half!
  • ertertertert
    Posts: 490
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    ertert wrote: »
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    Mr_Beach wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/no-time-to-die-box-office-projection-for-october-2021

    “And this is where things get difficult for a film budgeted in a pre-pandemic world: 'No Time To Die' now needs to clear $928m at the box office to avoid losing money.”

    Complete BS, as usual. MI6-HQ used to be trustworthy, but that stopped being the case many many years ago. Now it's worse than your average rag.

    To be fair, it's not BS, but, even with the figures and calculations, I think it's still a bit simplistic. Eon/MGM/Universal will weight up, as best they can, the BO potential for Oct/Nov release during these extremely unpredictable times. Not an easy task, but they also have to balance this against how much more money they will continue to lose if they again postpone the release. Also, a good quarter - or even more - of a big film's profits come - only a few months later - from streaming, cable, TV pre-sales/sales, dvd/BluRay (which, to be fair, is lower these days, but still substantial for a big film) etc.. Bond, as a huge franchise, has another advantage, NTTD, like all Bonds, will have a very, very long shelf life. And if it's a classic 007 film, which it looks likely to be, then that will sustain its life, its income and future profits. I reckon they are being realistic and sober minded and forecasting a theatrical performance (US and international) around $700 - 800 million bucks, but hoping that good reviews and strong word of mouth drive the figure up higher than that. (F9 got pretty poor reviews - friends of mine thought it was rubbish - but it still got close to $700 million.) We will soon find out.

    Don't mean to put you on the spot, but how do you feel about the film sticking to its current date? You are a very respected member of this community and I'd love to hear what you think.

    Well, the UK is nearly through its third wave with some 80% of the population vaccinated. And the UK is a hot spot for big Bond audiences, so I think Eon etc. will not miss this opportunity. Europe is getting better as well, so by Oct there could be a sweet spot for the international release. The US is more difficult with so many still unvaccinated and many not wanting the vaccination at all (crazy!!!!), so NTTD might suffer a bit there, but Bond has always been bigger for the international markets - so, to answer your question, yes the release should go ahead as planned.

    Very reassuring. Thank you so much.
  • antovolkantovolk
    edited August 2021 Posts: 3,164
    sounds like TV spots are going out to cinemas - there's a 30-second that's gone out to Germany https://www.spio-fsk.de/asp/fskkarte.asp?pvid=617719, and in Canada a "Nomi and Paloma" spot also got rated https://www.consumerprotectionbc.ca/motion-picture-ratings/classification-details/?cpbc_id=525578. And as I already mentioned, a rework of the Super Bowl spot with the September 30 date has been playing in the UK since F9.
  • BMB007BMB007
    Posts: 564
    antovolk wrote: »
    sounds like TV spots are going out to cinemas - there's a 30-second that's gone out to Germany https://www.spio-fsk.de/asp/fskkarte.asp?pvid=617719, and in Canada a "Nomi and Paloma" spot also got rated https://www.consumerprotectionbc.ca/motion-picture-ratings/classification-details/?cpbc_id=525578. And as I already mentioned, a rework of the Super Bowl spot with the September 30 date has been playing since F9.

    Cannot wait until the first time I see one on American TV — it'll all be real!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,428
    It’s certainly getting closer, good stuff! :)
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited August 2021 Posts: 4,343
    Back in 2019 everybody was obsessed with Malek. De Armas as well, without mentioning Billie that won all her Emmys. EoN did a great job hiring good people with a perfect timing at that time, the pandemic robbed them of that perfectly built momentum as well.
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