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Indeed. They couldn't have found many actors that fits the bill playing clever yet treacherous characters as much as David Dencik does. If he turns out being a bad guy, I wouldn't be surprised at all. I'd actually be a bit surprised if he doesn't play a turncoat!
A Bond villain (or any cinematic bad guy or woman), with a strong agenda, only kidnaps a person with scientific knowledge for a very good and specific reason. Simple as that.
Hear hear! Words of wisdom from @DarthDimi.
How about cloning Bond while we're at it?
Have we suddenly descended into the smelly sewers of television soap series? Unless people are joking about this, I'm sure we can all agree that cloning and more secret relatives are NOT where we want to take the next film. Facial transplants I can handle. Somewhat. Not a big fan but okay. Other than that though, pleaaaaase don't let this insanity ruin the next Bond film. Please!
I was thinking of the Boys from Brazil as well.
They’re, for the most part, unrelated. There are companies that specialize in creating trailers. More often than not the director, composer, etc. are not involved.
Of course! Madeleine Swann!
I know how you feel. It's the car of Dalton:Bond.
But i'm looking at it from the view of it being a sort of acknowledgement of the Dalton era. When GE acted like TLD and LTK didn't happen ('9 years ago' oh how convenient), I like to think that the V8 Vantage appearing in Bond#25 is making up for that.
Bond and Madeline get married.
She dies.
Bond moves to Jamaica.
Felix comes to find Bond claiming she’s alive.
He has to save her.
MI6 has the new black female agent. They bring Bond in saying he’s retired he’s a civilian and to stay out of this.
Bond obviously doesn’t stay out of it... Full license to kill type story. He’s doing this off the books.
Second theory. (Most likely).
Flashback to Madeline killing Rami Maleks father. Blofeld tells Malek who killed his father and they kill Madeline. Bond being Bond manages to kill most of his men but Malek escapes.
The CIA shows up. They say “Okay you want revenge, you are retired this is off the record, we will give you the resources to kill Malek.”
Cue kidnapped scientist + evil genetic warfare plot.
Bond just wants to kill Malek he doesn’t care about anything else and is racking up a body count.
MI6 has the female agent on the case and they are working against Bond.
Bond eventually teams up with Q, Moneypenny and the female agent.
Ending, Bond drifting away on a raft/boat with either Ana or the female agent.
https://7news.com.au/the-morning-show/couple-spends-35000-to-clone-their-deceased-cat-c-192468
If people can clone their pets, it's not too far to stretch the imagination to wonder what an organisation like SPECTRE might do, or be capable of.
Absolutely @MajorDSmythe -- always hated that. Disrespectful. Dalton was a tad too angry for my taste, BUT, he's perhaps top three-- he went back to the source material and took it seriously... To ignore what he brought to his two films (with more command than his successor), is a black-mark on the series, IMHO.
Oh my god, I almost forgot that was the AUF storyline! I’ve been sitting here wondering why this whole cloning plot (if that’s the route the film chooses to go) sounded familiar, and not at all weird. I wouldn’t mind the cloning angle, as long as it’s not leaning too far into sci-fi territory. If done right, it could be good!
Agreed. I'm hoping none of the theories from the last several pages are true.
I don’t recall if anyone has.
One of the main bits that has lead people to think that it’s Madeline is that the casting call specifically included that the actress should resemble Léa Seydoux.
But, your idea did make me think, what if the girl is not his daughter but the product of the kidnapped scientist experiments? 🤔
Yes. It is the most reasonable explanation for all of this.
If she is indeed Madeleine's daughter, it may not change the fact that Malek's character is after her father. It only begs the question of why. It is quite possible that fans everywhere are assuming that the "kidnapped scientist" is also involved with the dangerous technology. He may not be. Read carefully:
Recruited to rescue a kidnapped scientist, globe-trotting spy James Bond finds himself hot on the trail of a mysterious villain who's armed with a dangerous new technology.
I foresee a scenario in which Bond is called into action because Madeleine has been killed and now learns that her ex (a scientist of acclaim) and daughter have been taken and used as ransom. On the surface, that is the simple side of the plot. Turns out (per EONs description) the villain is involved in more nefarious matters.
I'm sure this is closer than the cloning idea, although I wonder if Madeleine actually dies in the pre title sequence as everyone is assuming. At the end of Spectre she wanted to walk away as she didn't want that life (only to be dragged back by Blofeld). The rumoured DB5 car chase sequence might come as a warning to her and Bond and they decide to split. This means we wouldn't have yet another dead woman on Bond's hands, and he can still go about the film behaving like Bond, yet still be a little wounded about having had to split from someone he cared about. Remember in the Norway sequence with the Toyota there is a stuntwoman with the man and a girl who could be doubling for Madeleine.
Why would Madeleine and her family be involved at all?
Could be either she was unlucky enough to marry a scientist who works on a new technology that can be dangerously manipulated (a stretch, but then Spectre....), or even after splitting from Bond she is still identified as a way to inflict pain on him.
Other point I would make is how would the film end if the cloned Madeleine is saved, but the real one is dead? Does Bond take her to Scotland and raise her as his daughter??? Jane Bond Jr perhaps......
There is none per-se,i just mentioned it a few pages back as a suggestion re Bond capturing Blofeld.