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  • Posts: 625
    Someone wrote: »
    I am wondering if we are seeing evidence of reshoots?

    If you watch the second NTTD trailer
    at about 12 second Bond says "The past isn't dead." But not a single report from Cinemacon has referenced his line. Instead we get:
    As James Bond gets to his room and confronts Madeleine, saying, “You’re right letting go is hard.” She asks him what happened, and Bond rages at her, asking how they could have possibly known where he was.

    I don't think, that they repeated the complete dialogue, when writing about the sequence, that they saw.

    I'm 100% sure, that they did not do any re-shoots,
    as they said they didn't do.

    And by the way: we always have scenes in trailers, that don't make the finished movie.
    So IF the "The past isn't dead"-line is not in the film, that doesn't mean, that they re-shot it.
  • Posts: 16,153
    BMB007 wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    just looked at the trailer again and yeah holy shit how did we not spot this before

    Yeah that’s crazy. We were all blinded by the beautiful composition of the shot! :D

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    Clearest shot I have of Madeleine in the scene, appearing to hold a white stick. Could be a pregnancy test, although with this level of blur it could be anything. I think it could even be apen; maybe she was leaving a note?
    Has to be a pen but if they snuck a pregnancy test under our noses for this long I'm gonna lose it lmao
    Agreed. It looks way too thin to be anything otherwise...
    Though thinking about the "There's something I need to tell you" line she says, perhaps her note has that "thing" on it. What if the last shot before the titles is a close up of the note as it burns, fading into the Eilish song?

    I think the scene preceeding the theme is going to be Madeleine chasing Bond on the train, and if Bond did see the pregnancy test (as well as the audience) we'd see a much different reaction. No mention of this in any of the people who watched the preview, so I can safely assume that what Madeleine was holding was probably not a pregnancy test.

    This is beginning to sound like an '80's television soap opera. I hope the film doesn't play like this or they could retitle it THE BOND AND THE BEAUTIFUL.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    just looked at the trailer again and yeah holy shit how did we not spot this before

    Yeah that’s crazy. We were all blinded by the beautiful composition of the shot! :D

    unknown.png?width=1440&height=607
    Clearest shot I have of Madeleine in the scene, appearing to hold a white stick. Could be a pregnancy test, although with this level of blur it could be anything. I think it could even be apen; maybe she was leaving a note?
    Has to be a pen but if they snuck a pregnancy test under our noses for this long I'm gonna lose it lmao
    Agreed. It looks way too thin to be anything otherwise...
    Though thinking about the "There's something I need to tell you" line she says, perhaps her note has that "thing" on it. What if the last shot before the titles is a close up of the note as it burns, fading into the Eilish song?

    I think the scene preceeding the theme is going to be Madeleine chasing Bond on the train, and if Bond did see the pregnancy test (as well as the audience) we'd see a much different reaction. No mention of this in any of the people who watched the preview, so I can safely assume that what Madeleine was holding was probably not a pregnancy test.

    This is beginning to sound like an '80's television soap opera. I hope the film doesn't play like this or they could retitle it THE BOND AND THE BEAUTIFUL.

    NTTD has been described like an emotional love story and a film about family where
    Bond is the father of a 5 years old kid.
    We know that since more than a year. I genuinely don’t want to sound bitter nor polemic… but why don’t you just make peace with the fact that this isn’t going to be a “straightforward fun light Bond adventure with no personal issues”?

    Anyway, I never saw this pic but too much time has passed and I might be wrong…

  • Posts: 560
    ggl007 wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    We have had this debate before. Going by the long clip we now 'know'

    Maddie and Bond is married in the PTS (according to all the film magazines at Cinemacon).

    But have we seen any BTS at all shooting the ceremony or the location? I'm thinking somewhere in Italy but then again, how on earth did they avoid bystanders and bond fans reporting? The only way possible is that they shot those scenes at Pinewood

    Private beach. I was told about that scene during filming but
    I was told the wedding appears at the end, so I'm not sure...

    Screaming if that's the ending of these 5-films.
  • Posts: 490
    BMB007 wrote: »
    ggl007 wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    We have had this debate before. Going by the long clip we now 'know'

    Maddie and Bond is married in the PTS (according to all the film magazines at Cinemacon).

    But have we seen any BTS at all shooting the ceremony or the location? I'm thinking somewhere in Italy but then again, how on earth did they avoid bystanders and bond fans reporting? The only way possible is that they shot those scenes at Pinewood

    Private beach. I was told about that scene during filming but
    I was told the wedding appears at the end, so I'm not sure...

    Screaming if that's the ending of these 5-films.

    The emotional stakes will be insane if these rumors are true. From everything we've seen they still completely deliver on the action front. My hopes for this film are sky high.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,205
    Daughter of SPECTRE? That is very vague; Safin has hinted that he will survive beyond his “ death” . His physical appearance shows signs of degeneration and/or regeneration. Now I won’t use the “ C” word but I’ve contended that Madeleine is a product of genetic experimentation by SPECTRE, making her the “ Daughter of SPECTRE “
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    edited August 2021 Posts: 3,022
    matt_u wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    just looked at the trailer again and yeah holy shit how did we not spot this before

    Yeah that’s crazy. We were all blinded by the beautiful composition of the shot! :D

    unknown.png?width=1440&height=607
    Clearest shot I have of Madeleine in the scene, appearing to hold a white stick. Could be a pregnancy test, although with this level of blur it could be anything. I think it could even be apen; maybe she was leaving a note?
    Has to be a pen but if they snuck a pregnancy test under our noses for this long I'm gonna lose it lmao
    Agreed. It looks way too thin to be anything otherwise...
    Though thinking about the "There's something I need to tell you" line she says, perhaps her note has that "thing" on it. What if the last shot before the titles is a close up of the note as it burns, fading into the Eilish song?

    I think the scene preceeding the theme is going to be Madeleine chasing Bond on the train, and if Bond did see the pregnancy test (as well as the audience) we'd see a much different reaction. No mention of this in any of the people who watched the preview, so I can safely assume that what Madeleine was holding was probably not a pregnancy test.

    This is beginning to sound like an '80's television soap opera. I hope the film doesn't play like this or they could retitle it THE BOND AND THE BEAUTIFUL.

    NTTD has been described like an emotional love story and a film about family where
    Bond is the father of a 5 years old kid.
    We know that since more than a year. I genuinely don’t want to sound bitter nor polemic… but why don’t you just make peace with the fact that this isn’t going to be a “straightforward fun light Bond adventure with no personal issues”?

    Anyway, I never saw this pic but too much time has passed and I might be wrong…


    @matt_u Voila:

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  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited August 2021 Posts: 4,343
    talos7 wrote: »
    Daughter of SPECTRE? That is very vague; Safin has hinted that he will survive beyond his “ death” . His physical appearance shows signs of degeneration and/or regeneration. Now I won’t use the “ C” word but I’ve contended that Madeleine is a product of genetic experimentation by SPECTRE, making her the “ Daughter of SPECTRE “

    Nah… too sci-fi and weird… that nickname will probably come from her past with Safin, that was a SPECTRE agent when kidnapped her, and the fact that prior to that she grew up with one of SPECTRE most prominent members as her dad. In fact her childhood has always been connected to the organization.

    On the other hand that Safin kinda found a way to regenerate his body seems legit to me.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,617
    matt_u wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Daughter of SPECTRE? That is very vague; Safin has hinted that he will survive beyond his “ death” . His physical appearance shows signs of degeneration and/or regeneration. Now I won’t use the “ C” word but I’ve contended that Madeleine is a product of genetic experimentation by SPECTRE, making her the “ Daughter of SPECTRE “

    Nah… too sci-fi and weird… that nickname will probably come from her past with Safin, that was a SPECTRE agent when kidnapped her, and the fact that prior to that she grow up with one of SPECTRE most prominent members as her dad. In fact her childhood has always been connected to the organization.

    Makes me wonder if Paul Haggis brought back his unique idea from QOS when writing the script. Or if John Logan and Sam Mendes were planning on coming back for a sequel originally when Spectre was a two parter movie.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,205
    matt_u wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Daughter of SPECTRE? That is very vague; Safin has hinted that he will survive beyond his “ death” . His physical appearance shows signs of degeneration and/or regeneration. Now I won’t use the “ C” word but I’ve contended that Madeleine is a product of genetic experimentation by SPECTRE, making her the “ Daughter of SPECTRE “

    Nah… too sci-fi and weird… that nickname will probably come from her past with Safin, that was a SPECTRE agent when kidnapped her, and the fact that prior to that she grew up with one of SPECTRE most prominent members as her dad. In fact her childhood has always been connected to the organization.

    On the other hand that Safin kinda found a way to regenerate his body seems legit to me.

    We’ll see, many Bond films have been technology several beats ahead of is currently possible. Safin’s face is very telling.

  • Posts: 490
    I think Safin is actually very old and he found a way to regenerate his body so he could continue working on whatever this big plan is that could "kill millions". I think he's obsessed with Swann and wants her to be his partner in this new world he wants to create.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited August 2021 Posts: 4,343
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Daughter of SPECTRE? That is very vague; Safin has hinted that he will survive beyond his “ death” . His physical appearance shows signs of degeneration and/or regeneration. Now I won’t use the “ C” word but I’ve contended that Madeleine is a product of genetic experimentation by SPECTRE, making her the “ Daughter of SPECTRE “

    Nah… too sci-fi and weird… that nickname will probably come from her past with Safin, that was a SPECTRE agent when kidnapped her, and the fact that prior to that she grow up with one of SPECTRE most prominent members as her dad. In fact her childhood has always been connected to the organization.

    Makes me wonder if Paul Haggis brought back his unique idea from QOS when writing the script. Or if John Logan and Sam Mendes were planning on coming back for a sequel originally when Spectre was a two parter movie.

    But Haggis didn’t worked on this one. There were rumors about him polishing stuff but were debunked IF I recall correctly. Reading those quotes from 2008 is interesting, since we know
    Bond will have a child in this one:
    "I think Paul thought he just leaves the kid, he doesn't deal with it," Forster added. "But [the producers] thought that would be really nasty, because Bond was an orphan himself. If he would find a kid, would he just leave it?

    "They were so vehemently against it. That was the only time I saw, really, 'No, we can't do that'. They said, 'Once he finds the kid, Bond can't just leave the kid. It's not right'."
  • I hope whatever future tech regarding Safin’s potential regeneration is *too* sci-fi. Die Another Day was a bridge beyond what I like Bond to dabble in.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited August 2021 Posts: 5,970
    Its so beautiful that we're this close to release and still in the dark about of a lot things, despite all that we do.
  • Posts: 560
    matt_u wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Daughter of SPECTRE? That is very vague; Safin has hinted that he will survive beyond his “ death” . His physical appearance shows signs of degeneration and/or regeneration. Now I won’t use the “ C” word but I’ve contended that Madeleine is a product of genetic experimentation by SPECTRE, making her the “ Daughter of SPECTRE “

    Nah… too sci-fi and weird… that nickname will probably come from her past with Safin, that was a SPECTRE agent when kidnapped her, and the fact that prior to that she grow up with one of SPECTRE most prominent members as her dad. In fact her childhood has always been connected to the organization.

    Makes me wonder if Paul Haggis brought back his unique idea from QOS when writing the script. Or if John Logan and Sam Mendes were planning on coming back for a sequel originally when Spectre was a two parter movie.

    But Haggis didn’t worked on this one. There were rumors about him polishing stuff but were debunked IF I recall correctly. Reading those quotes from 2008 is interesting, since we know
    Bond will have a child in this one:
    "I think Paul thought he just leaves the kid, he doesn't deal with it," Forster added. "But [the producers] thought that would be really nasty, because Bond was an orphan himself. If he would find a kid, would he just leave it?

    "They were so vehemently against it. That was the only time I saw, really, 'No, we can't do that'. They said, 'Once he finds the kid, Bond can't just leave the kid. It's not right'."

    Exactly, exactly.

    He's been journeying for family over all these films. Seeking belonging. Think about how easily he leaves MI6 in "Casino Royale" or "Spectre" once he finds someone. He's not a cold character; that's a facade — see "Skyfall".
  • edited August 2021 Posts: 3,274
    matt_u wrote: »
    NTTD has been described like an emotional love story and a film about family
    Sounds a lot like one of those Fast and Furious movies, where all protagonists and antagonists are somehow one big family :-)

    I just want a wellwritten thriller with big action setpieces, but I guess they don't make big budget movies any longer, where the main character doesn't have any personal issues and there's no inner struggle or conflict to deal with, like the first 20 Bond movies, where Bond was just cool and suave.
  • edited August 2021 Posts: 6,709
    Zekidk wrote: »
    I just want a wellwritten thriller with big action setpieces, but I guess they don't make big budget movies any longer, where the main character doesn't have any personal issues and there's no inner struggle or conflict to deal with, like the first 20 Bond movies, where Bond was just cool and suave.

    I think the days of inner struggle/conflict, darker brooding anti-heroes, will be over before we know it, because times they are a changin and we're headed for the post-covid years (here's hoping) and, just like in the post-war years, people will want escapism and fun again. Specially during a global economic crisis. And globetrotting agents with panache and exoticism will be fashionable again. A blend of the two, a mix match between the anti-hero and the hero is, IMO, the way to go. Then again, maybe they'll give us a Bond-centric, one-location confined film, and I'd be fine with that too. The only thing I don't want is a reboot with a slightly pubescent rookie Bond with social and sexual agendas being checked like on a studios check list. But that's for another thread and time.

    For now, it seems NTTD has plenty to offer, on all fronts.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    EoN nor the GA don’t care about what you want. After 15 years you should have already figured it out…
  • Posts: 6,709
    matt_u wrote: »
    EoN nor the GA don’t care about what you want. After 15 years you should have already figured it out…

    Yes, but by now we can predict, if slightly, what they'll want. After 15 years, we have some patterns that make it possible...wait, what am I saying? They gave us DUD after TWINE, and took a Daniel Craig out of the hat, and brought back SPECTRE and Blofeld, and... Damn, they are unpredictable as hell. Still, I have faith in them. It's like family (damn it, this family thing again), we can be mad at them most of the time, but deep down, we grew up with them and we know them, they feel like home because, well, they never left.
  • Posts: 490
    Univex wrote: »
    Zekidk wrote: »
    I just want a wellwritten thriller with big action setpieces, but I guess they don't make big budget movies any longer, where the main character doesn't have any personal issues and there's no inner struggle or conflict to deal with, like the first 20 Bond movies, where Bond was just cool and suave.

    I think the days of inner struggle/conflict, darker brooding anti-heroes, will be over before we know it, because times they are a changin and we're headed for the post-covid years (here's hoping) and, just like in the post-war years, people will want escapism and fun again. Specially during a global economic crisis. And globetrotting agents with panache and exoticism will be fashionable again. A blend of the two, a mix match between the anti-hero and the hero is, IMO, the way to go. Then again, maybe they'll give us a Bond-centric, one-location confined film, and I'd be fine with that too. The only thing I don't want is a reboot with a slightly pubescent rookie Bond with social and sexual agendas being checked like on a studios check list. But that's for another thread and time.

    For now, it seems NTTD has plenty to offer, on all fronts.

    Excellent post.
  • Posts: 490
    Contraband wrote: »

    Seems unlikely they would debut it in theaters rather than online first right? Maybe this is just a slightly recut version of something we've already seen.
  • edited August 2021 Posts: 3,274
    Univex wrote: »
    Zekidk wrote: »
    I just want a wellwritten thriller with big action setpieces, but I guess they don't make big budget movies any longer, where the main character doesn't have any personal issues and there's no inner struggle or conflict to deal with, like the first 20 Bond movies, where Bond was just cool and suave.

    I think the days of inner struggle/conflict, darker brooding anti-heroes, will be over before we know it, because times they are a changin
    The trend has something to do with how scripts are written. It has become a big no-no with no character development for a protagonist in action movies. This is fine, as long as they don't make the hero weak.
    matt_u wrote: »
    After 15 years you should have already figured it out…
    Guess I am still stuck at "Casino Royale is a reboot that shows how Bond became the Bond we know." ;-)
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 3,022
    ertert wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »

    Seems unlikely they would debut it in theaters rather than online first right? Maybe this is just a slightly recut version of something we've already seen.

    Read the update
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited August 2021 Posts: 4,343
    Univex wrote: »
    Zekidk wrote: »
    I just want a wellwritten thriller with big action setpieces, but I guess they don't make big budget movies any longer, where the main character doesn't have any personal issues and there's no inner struggle or conflict to deal with, like the first 20 Bond movies, where Bond was just cool and suave.

    A blend of the two, a mix match between the anti-hero and the hero is, IMO, the way to go. Then again, maybe they'll give us a Bond-centric, one-location confined film, and I'd be fine with that too. The only thing I don't want is a reboot with a slightly pubescent rookie Bond with social and sexual agendas being checked like on a studios check list. But that's for another thread and time.

    For now, it seems NTTD has plenty to offer, on all fronts.

    +1.
    Univex wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    EoN nor the GA don’t care about what you want. After 15 years you should have already figured it out…

    Yes, but by now we can predict, if slightly, what they'll want. After 15 years, we have some patterns that make it possible...wait, what am I saying? They gave us DUD after TWINE, and took a Daniel Craig out of the hat, and brought back SPECTRE and Blofeld, and... Damn, they are unpredictable as hell. Still, I have faith in them. It's like family (damn it, this family thing again), we can be mad at them most of the time, but deep down, we grew up with them and we know them, they feel like home because, well, they never left.

    For the record I was replying to Zekidk and his never ending complaints…
    Contraband wrote: »
    ertert wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »

    Seems unlikely they would debut it in theaters rather than online first right? Maybe this is just a slightly recut version of something we've already seen.

    Read the update

    Well if that’s indeed the new final trailer it’s gonna be disappointing. They must regenerate the hype, the interests of the GA towards Bond must boost like a rocket and releasing always the same 1.5 years old stuff remixed with a couple of new dialogs it’s just wrong. At this point I hope they will be smart enough to release the clip they showed yesterday, within the next couple of weeks.
  • edited August 2021 Posts: 3,274
    matt_u wrote: »
    For the record I was replying to Zekidk and his never ending complaints…
    Thank you. It's always a compliment when someone remembers what you wrote several months or weeks ago (I don't post much). Must have made an impression :-)
    matt_u wrote: »
    I genuinely don’t want to sound bitter nor polemic
    Stop complaining! :-)
  • TheNumberOrTheCipherTheNumberOrTheCipher Raoul Silva did a little trolling
    edited August 2021 Posts: 82
    Crackpot theory about Safin's origin (possible spoilers)
    So today I was listening to a video on the Japanese military program Unit 731, and it got me thinking, could Safin have been a researcher for Unit 731? I know it may sound stupid, but hear me out. So Unit 731 was a weapons program developed by the Japanese military during the Second World War with the aim of studying biological weapons (ie: pathogens, viruses, etc.). With what we've seen and heard about Safin's plan in No Time to Die, he seems to be using some sort of biological weapon in the vein of Unit 731 as well. While that may seem like something small to go off of, Safin himself seems to be fascinated with Japanese culture (ie: Noh Mask), and may be of partial Japanese descent himself and perhaps worked in the program. The tricky part however is how Safin has survived since World War II and still be able to look relatively young. Well, we've seen that Safin seems to have lived a lot longer than the average person (ie: staying the same age between Maddie as a kid and as an adult), so perhaps he's been able to prolong his life since the 40's/50's with gene therapy or something of that nature (which would explain his facial scarring). Along they way he could've met Blofeld and joined Spectre as well.

    Tell me what you guys think, it's a bit out there, and there may be some holes, but it's interesting none the less

    EDIT: For anyone curious about Unit 731, PLEASE research with caution, a lot of the experiments conducted during the program were very horrific and could disturb some sensitive users
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    Do we know for sure Safin has been prolonging his life? I still feel like this is far too Sci-Fi for Bond.
  • TheNumberOrTheCipherTheNumberOrTheCipher Raoul Silva did a little trolling
    Posts: 82
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Do we know for sure Safin has been prolonging his life? I still feel like this is far too Sci-Fi for Bond.
    There's nothing outright confirming it yet, but a leaked call sheet from awhile back described a scene in which Safin chased Madeline as a little girl across a frozen lake, which has been seen in several trailers. Plus some visual evidence that he might be involved in genetics/cloning, it's looking likely
  • Posts: 560
    Crackpot theory about Safin's origin (possible spoilers)
    So today I was listening to a video on the Japanese military program Unit 731, and it got me thinking, could Safin have been a researcher for Unit 731? I know it may sound stupid, but hear me out. So Unit 731 was a weapons program developed by the Japanese military during the Second World War with the aim of studying biological weapons (ie: pathogens, viruses, etc.). With what we've seen and heard about Safin's plan in No Time to Die, he seems to be using some sort of biological weapon in the vein of Unit 731 as well. While that may seem like something small to go off of, Safin himself seems to be fascinated with Japanese culture (ie: Noh Mask), and may be of partial Japanese descent himself and perhaps worked in the program. The tricky part however is how Safin has survived since World War II and still be able to look relatively young. Well, we've seen that Safin seems to have lived a lot longer than the average person (ie: staying the same age between Maddie as a kid and as an adult), so perhaps he's been able to prolong his life since the 40's/50's with gene therapy or something of that nature (which would explain his facial scarring). Along they way he could've met Blofeld and joined Spectre as well.

    Tell me what you guys think, it's a bit out there, and there may be some holes, but it's interesting none the less

    I'd buy this, would fit in with his
    overall desire of taking control of life and death, becoming this usurper of divine power. A false god contrasting to the "real" ones of Bond/Swann. I wonder if — just as he is trying to kill millions, he has a way of artificially bringing the dead back in someway.
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