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  • GertGettlerGertGettler Laptop Barcelona
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    I think malek appears at the end and bond and swann try to get a child back
    Only at the end? and again this child stuff should be taken with a pinch of salt. I'm sure this is gonna play out how people are predicting, plus the only children seen in photographs were in the background with crew so hard to tell whether they're part of the scene or just related to a crew member?

    Ehhh, besides being Bond fans, we also are walking Bond databases no? So having said that, we are quite aware that most Bond villains, and especially the bigger, more memorable Bond villains actually haven't got so much screentime. Besides the more active all-round directors -both executioners as well as puppet masters- like Auric Goldfinger, Elliot Carver and Max Zorin, many other Bond villains have relatively modest screentime while at the same time having huge impact.

    - Dr. Julius No: One of my all-time favourite villains who blossoms especially at the dinner table. The way he smashes that little statue...wonderful.
    - Ernst Stavro Blofeld (the uncredited one) from FRWL & TB: He only has a white cat, we only see his hair, he uses authoritarian language in a Shakespearian way, and he presses a few deadly buttons. But...so impressive (and for me as a little kid quite scary).
    - Ernst Stavro Blofeld (the revealed ones) YOLT, OHMSS, DAF & SP: Regardless of some flaws, their screentime is limited, still press buttons, if it's a 60-ies big red one, or an iPad...he is the scary 'button presser'. Even the 'new Blofeld' as seen in "SPECTRE".
    - Fransisco Scaramanga: Though a bit more screentime, it's still not that much. The way he is lurking from behind the scenes, 'spying' on Bond brings about some extra scare.
    - Alec Trevelyan: He re-appears fairly late, but in a rather climatic, confrontation on a storage place full of statues. Scarred, and full of revenge feelings.
    - Le Chiffre: A true desperate villain, with completely black tuxedo, a Hitler-hairstyle and a bloody eye. The opposite of the more psychotic Blofeld who enjoys torturing for pleasure.
    - Raoul Silva / Tiago Rodriguez: In my opinion the best Bond villain since the 1960's. Although I have to say that Sam Mendes also was very much inspired by such villains with 'grand entrances'. The way he plays with the psyche of his opponents is smart.

    So there you have it. A short walk down memory lane. The most iconic Bond villains have relatively small parts when it comes down to screentime, but the overall impact, both story-wise as well as acting-wise is very dominant and during pivotal scenes need to even outperform Bond...make him even a bit more boring. That's what a good Bond villain is.

    And I have a gut feling that that aspect will be a smashing, scary, thrilling success. The thing is, we all have to be a bit more patient. Keep it going EON with your secrecy ;-)!
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited October 2019 Posts: 5,970
    @GertGettler I completely agree with your statements, but less screentime doesn't mean restricted to one location as our friend @Tuck91 seems to imply.

    I just think while yes Malek will have less screentime, the expected runtime for these movies would still allow for Malek to appear in multiple locations outside of Norway, within the context of the film, like Raoul Silva and Le Chiffre, although I thought Le Chiffre had quite a good amount of screentime to be honest. Again we don't know where he has filmed for sure, apart from Pinewood and apparently Norway.
  • GertGettlerGertGettler Laptop Barcelona
    edited October 2019 Posts: 431
    Denbigh wrote: »
    @GertGettler I completely agree with your statements, but less screentime doesn't mean restricted to one location as our friend @Tuck91 seems to imply.

    I just think while yes Malek will have less screentime, the expected runtime for these movies would still allow for Malek to appear in multiple locations outside of Norway, within the context of the film, like Raoul Silva and Le Chiffre, although I thought Le Chiffre had quite a good amount of screentime to be honest. Again we don't know where he has filmed for sure, apart from Pinewood and apparently Norway.

    We don't know yet if Malek and Waltz are handcuffed against a totem pole for the duration of the movie :-P. Just be patient. Enjoy the secrecy. And perhaps you will be in awe…

    Regarding Le Chiffre...his role ended basically with his death and then the movie still had around 45 mins more film.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    @GertGettler I completely agree with your statements, but less screentime doesn't mean restricted to one location as our friend @Tuck91 seems to imply.

    I just think while yes Malek will have less screentime, the expected runtime for these movies would still allow for Malek to appear in multiple locations outside of Norway, within the context of the film, like Raoul Silva and Le Chiffre, although I thought Le Chiffre had quite a good amount of screentime to be honest. Again we don't know where he has filmed for sure, apart from Pinewood and apparently Norway.

    Le Chiffre does get decent screentime, but Mikkelsen is only seen on location in 'Africa' (shot in the UK), on his yacht (studio), in the casino (studio), the barge (studio), and briefly picking Bond up after his crash (which could have been shot anywhere). So not actually on location anywhere really. So for Malek not to have apparently travelled much seems par for the course.
  • GertGettlerGertGettler Laptop Barcelona
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    mtm wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    @GertGettler I completely agree with your statements, but less screentime doesn't mean restricted to one location as our friend @Tuck91 seems to imply.

    I just think while yes Malek will have less screentime, the expected runtime for these movies would still allow for Malek to appear in multiple locations outside of Norway, within the context of the film, like Raoul Silva and Le Chiffre, although I thought Le Chiffre had quite a good amount of screentime to be honest. Again we don't know where he has filmed for sure, apart from Pinewood and apparently Norway.

    Le Chiffre does get decent screentime, but Mikkelsen is only seen on location in 'Africa' (shot in the UK), on his yacht (studio), in the casino (studio), the barge (studio), and briefly picking Bond up after his crash (which could have been shot anywhere). So not actually on location anywhere really. So for Malek not to have apparently travelled much seems par for the course.

    Exactly. I remember Waltz saying back in 2015 that he was a bit annoyed that he couldn't travel the globe as much as the other leading characters. But......that's the risk of being cast as a Bond villain apparently hehehe.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited October 2019 Posts: 5,970
    GertGettler wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    @GertGettler I completely agree with your statements, but less screentime doesn't mean restricted to one location as our friend @Tuck91 seems to imply.

    I just think while yes Malek will have less screentime, the expected runtime for these movies would still allow for Malek to appear in multiple locations outside of Norway, within the context of the film, like Raoul Silva and Le Chiffre, although I thought Le Chiffre had quite a good amount of screentime to be honest. Again we don't know where he has filmed for sure, apart from Pinewood and apparently Norway.

    We don't know yet if Malek and Waltz are handcuffed against a totem pole for the duration of the movie :-P. Just be patient. Enjoy the secrecy. And perhaps you will be in awe…

    Regarding Le Chiffre...his role ended basically with his death and then the movie still had around 45 mins more film.
    I am enjoying the secrecy, which is pretty much the foundation of why I'm saying Malek could still appear anywhere because we know so little to assume anything concrete.
    mtm wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    @GertGettler I completely agree with your statements, but less screentime doesn't mean restricted to one location as our friend @Tuck91 seems to imply.

    I just think while yes Malek will have less screentime, the expected runtime for these movies would still allow for Malek to appear in multiple locations outside of Norway, within the context of the film, like Raoul Silva and Le Chiffre, although I thought Le Chiffre had quite a good amount of screentime to be honest. Again we don't know where he has filmed for sure, apart from Pinewood and apparently Norway.

    Le Chiffre does get decent screentime, but Mikkelsen is only seen on location in 'Africa' (shot in the UK), on his yacht (studio), in the casino (studio), the barge (studio), and briefly picking Bond up after his crash (which could have been shot anywhere). So not actually on location anywhere really. So for Malek not to have apparently travelled much seems par for the course.
    Oh of course! Again that's why I suggested that Malek's scenes within the film could have been on sets built at Pinewood based in any of the locations. I'm just suggesting an alternative to the idea that Malek will only appear in Norway at the beginning and the end :)
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    GertGettler wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    @GertGettler I completely agree with your statements, but less screentime doesn't mean restricted to one location as our friend @Tuck91 seems to imply.

    I just think while yes Malek will have less screentime, the expected runtime for these movies would still allow for Malek to appear in multiple locations outside of Norway, within the context of the film, like Raoul Silva and Le Chiffre, although I thought Le Chiffre had quite a good amount of screentime to be honest. Again we don't know where he has filmed for sure, apart from Pinewood and apparently Norway.

    We don't know yet if Malek and Waltz are handcuffed against a totem pole for the duration of the movie :-P. Just be patient. Enjoy the secrecy. And perhaps you will be in awe…

    Regarding Le Chiffre...his role ended basically with his death and then the movie still had around 45 mins more film.
    I am enjoying the secrecy, which is pretty much the foundation of why I'm saying Malek could still appear anywhere because we know so little to assume anything concrete.
    mtm wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    @GertGettler I completely agree with your statements, but less screentime doesn't mean restricted to one location as our friend @Tuck91 seems to imply.

    I just think while yes Malek will have less screentime, the expected runtime for these movies would still allow for Malek to appear in multiple locations outside of Norway, within the context of the film, like Raoul Silva and Le Chiffre, although I thought Le Chiffre had quite a good amount of screentime to be honest. Again we don't know where he has filmed for sure, apart from Pinewood and apparently Norway.

    Le Chiffre does get decent screentime, but Mikkelsen is only seen on location in 'Africa' (shot in the UK), on his yacht (studio), in the casino (studio), the barge (studio), and briefly picking Bond up after his crash (which could have been shot anywhere). So not actually on location anywhere really. So for Malek not to have apparently travelled much seems par for the course.
    Oh of course! Again that's why I suggested that Malek's scenes within the film could have been on sets built at Pinewood based in any of the locations. I'm just suggesting an alternative to the idea that Malek will only appear in Norway at the beginning and the end :)

    Yes, sorry: I was agreeing! It didn't quite come across :)
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    mtm wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    GertGettler wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    @GertGettler I completely agree with your statements, but less screentime doesn't mean restricted to one location as our friend @Tuck91 seems to imply.

    I just think while yes Malek will have less screentime, the expected runtime for these movies would still allow for Malek to appear in multiple locations outside of Norway, within the context of the film, like Raoul Silva and Le Chiffre, although I thought Le Chiffre had quite a good amount of screentime to be honest. Again we don't know where he has filmed for sure, apart from Pinewood and apparently Norway.

    We don't know yet if Malek and Waltz are handcuffed against a totem pole for the duration of the movie :-P. Just be patient. Enjoy the secrecy. And perhaps you will be in awe…

    Regarding Le Chiffre...his role ended basically with his death and then the movie still had around 45 mins more film.
    I am enjoying the secrecy, which is pretty much the foundation of why I'm saying Malek could still appear anywhere because we know so little to assume anything concrete.
    mtm wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    @GertGettler I completely agree with your statements, but less screentime doesn't mean restricted to one location as our friend @Tuck91 seems to imply.

    I just think while yes Malek will have less screentime, the expected runtime for these movies would still allow for Malek to appear in multiple locations outside of Norway, within the context of the film, like Raoul Silva and Le Chiffre, although I thought Le Chiffre had quite a good amount of screentime to be honest. Again we don't know where he has filmed for sure, apart from Pinewood and apparently Norway.

    Le Chiffre does get decent screentime, but Mikkelsen is only seen on location in 'Africa' (shot in the UK), on his yacht (studio), in the casino (studio), the barge (studio), and briefly picking Bond up after his crash (which could have been shot anywhere). So not actually on location anywhere really. So for Malek not to have apparently travelled much seems par for the course.
    Oh of course! Again that's why I suggested that Malek's scenes within the film could have been on sets built at Pinewood based in any of the locations. I'm just suggesting an alternative to the idea that Malek will only appear in Norway at the beginning and the end :)

    Yes, sorry: I was agreeing! It didn't quite come across :)
    Oh my bad sorry @mtm haha :D
  • GertGettlerGertGettler Laptop Barcelona
    edited October 2019 Posts: 431
    Denbigh wrote: »
    GertGettler wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    @GertGettler I completely agree with your statements, but less screentime doesn't mean restricted to one location as our friend @Tuck91 seems to imply.

    I just think while yes Malek will have less screentime, the expected runtime for these movies would still allow for Malek to appear in multiple locations outside of Norway, within the context of the film, like Raoul Silva and Le Chiffre, although I thought Le Chiffre had quite a good amount of screentime to be honest. Again we don't know where he has filmed for sure, apart from Pinewood and apparently Norway.

    We don't know yet if Malek and Waltz are handcuffed against a totem pole for the duration of the movie :-P. Just be patient. Enjoy the secrecy. And perhaps you will be in awe…

    Regarding Le Chiffre...his role ended basically with his death and then the movie still had around 45 mins more film.
    I am enjoying the secrecy, which is pretty much the foundation of why I'm saying Malek could still appear anywhere because we know so little to assume anything concrete.
    mtm wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    @GertGettler I completely agree with your statements, but less screentime doesn't mean restricted to one location as our friend @Tuck91 seems to imply.

    I just think while yes Malek will have less screentime, the expected runtime for these movies would still allow for Malek to appear in multiple locations outside of Norway, within the context of the film, like Raoul Silva and Le Chiffre, although I thought Le Chiffre had quite a good amount of screentime to be honest. Again we don't know where he has filmed for sure, apart from Pinewood and apparently Norway.

    Le Chiffre does get decent screentime, but Mikkelsen is only seen on location in 'Africa' (shot in the UK), on his yacht (studio), in the casino (studio), the barge (studio), and briefly picking Bond up after his crash (which could have been shot anywhere). So not actually on location anywhere really. So for Malek not to have apparently travelled much seems par for the course.
    Oh of course! Again that's why I suggested that Malek's scenes within the film could have been on sets built at Pinewood based in any of the locations. I'm just suggesting an alternative to the idea that Malek will only appear in Norway at the beginning and the end :)

    I think that's the idea for the two Bond villains of NTTD. It's mostly set-based. And like Always, when it comes down to exact set constructions, we were 'lucky' with the SonyLeaks that they gave most production design ideas away. But now we are back to the good old secrecy. We.....won't know anything until we see some first trailer footage :-).

    But yes, set based. But you know what @MTM and @Denbigh ? I hope we get a Hitchcok-ian detective/thriller story like in "From Russia With Love". A plot that leaves us, the audience, seeing clues of the villain's scheme unfolding, but that Bond 007 himself is not aware of. That would be so so thrilling if it will be a bit like that :-). Seeing S.P.E.C.T.R.E. sneeking behind Bond's back. That would be my wish really….. And I think we could be on to such a thriller plot again.
  • Problem_EliminatorProblem_Eliminator Ojai, CA
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    I looked for the questions thread but I'm not going to page 2 .but this isn't the correct thread but I will throw it where everyone is I was just wondering about the guys who dislike specter ,what about the bond and Mr white scene ?
  • GertGettlerGertGettler Laptop Barcelona
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    Problem_Eliminator wrote: »
    I looked for the questions thread but I'm not going to page 2 .but this isn't the correct thread but I will throw it where everyone is I was just wondering about the guys who dislike specter ,what about the bond and Mr white scene ?

    Well...I suggest you re-watch the first four Craig-Bond films. Lots of answers are revealed in there. And to prepare for "No Time To Die", to get the pentalogy full-circle, you first need to see the first four Craig outings.
  • Tuck91Tuck91
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    Casino Royale and spectre will be most connected with No Time to Die
  • Problem_EliminatorProblem_Eliminator Ojai, CA
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    I'm just wondering the guys that rank it low is the 1on1 with Mr white a legit tense bond moment
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
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    GertGettler wrote: »
    Problem_Eliminator wrote: »
    I looked for the questions thread but I'm not going to page 2 .but this isn't the correct thread but I will throw it where everyone is I was just wondering about the guys who dislike specter ,what about the bond and Mr white scene ?

    Well...I suggest you re-watch the first four Craig-Bond films. Lots of answers are revealed in there. And to prepare for "No Time To Die", to get the pentalogy full-circle, you first need to see the first four Craig outings.

    I think @Problem_Eliminator was asking about our thoughts on the scene.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited October 2019 Posts: 10,591
    Problem_Eliminator wrote: »
    I'm just wondering the guys that rank it low is the 1on1 with Mr white a legit tense bond moment

    This can be discussed here:
    https://www.mi6community.com/discussion/14128/in-time-will-sp-be-more-or-less-appreciated#latest
    https://www.mi6community.com/discussion/13619/where-would-you-rank-spectre-no-spoilers#latest
  • Problem_EliminatorProblem_Eliminator Ojai, CA
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    Ya it can but nobody will look at that thread
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
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    Problem_Eliminator wrote: »
    Ya it can but nobody will look at that thread

    The issue is that the Bond-Mr. White scene is off topic.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Problem_Eliminator wrote: »
    Ya it can but nobody will look at that thread
    Try bumping it. Who knows?
  • Problem_EliminatorProblem_Eliminator Ojai, CA
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    On my bad I'll go to the q thread where we it may be probably in that link now that I think of it
  • Problem_EliminatorProblem_Eliminator Ojai, CA
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    I have a bad phone I'm typing correctly but I go to fast and it comes out like that but you guys are smart you know this all and what I was saying
  • GertGettlerGertGettler Laptop Barcelona
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    Problem_Eliminator wrote: »
    On my bad I'll go to the q thread where we it may be probably in that link now that I think of it

    Yeah, just hit that topic up, post your thoughts about that scene in there. Perhaps tomorrow I will respond. Sounds interesting @Problem_Eliminator ;-). Nice to see you are trhilled about that scene, which actually was a highlight of SP.
  • Problem_EliminatorProblem_Eliminator Ojai, CA
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    Why do you genius guys that are bond fans need moderators what are we monitoring free speech
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Problem_Eliminator wrote: »
    Why do you genius guys that are bond fans need moderators what are we monitoring free speech
    Not sure I'm understanding. All I did was politely redirect you to a different thread.
  • FrankXavierFrankXavier
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    Anyone else having an issue where the page loads a bunch of empty space after the post comment prompt?
  • Tuck91Tuck91
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    So old fashioned!
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Problem_Eliminator wrote: »
    Why do you genius guys that are bond fans need moderators what are we monitoring free speech

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  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    The mods save this thread, and others, from becoming a raging, argumentative hellhole that soon becomes 20 degrees removed from the purpose of the thread.
  • Problem_EliminatorProblem_Eliminator Ojai, CA
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    4EverBonded wrote: »
    The mods save this thread, and others, from becoming a raging, argumentative hellhole that soon becomes 20 degrees removed from the purpose of the thread.

    Sounds like quite a hefty toll most be exhausting
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Problem_Eliminator wrote: »
    Why do you genius guys that are bond fans need moderators what are we monitoring free speech

    You might want to reacquaint yourself with the terms and conditions. The ones you agreed too, when you signed up.
    Also, lose the attitude. You’ll find your time here a lot more pleasant.
    We don’t put up with people that can’t be bothered to look up a thread, or are just being rude because they think they can for very long.
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