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  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Octopussy wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Ironically, considering the backlash, I think this is gonna be the most Bondian film of the Craig-era.

    More Bondesque then Casino Royale? Impossible. It doesn't get more Bond then that as it's based upon a Fleming novel, IMO.

    It's interesting that you say this, as I've always considered Casino Royale's Bond to be becoming the Bond we know and love, and so in this way, not as traditionally "Bondian" as other entries. Obviously an amazing film, very true to Fleming, and one that NTTD should aspire to.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    Of course I've not seen NTTD....but the fact that Bond drives the DB5 with real purpose this time & has to stealthily enter a Vilian's lair makes the film really Bondian.
  • OctopussyOctopussy Piz Gloria, Schilthorn, Switzerland.
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    Octopussy wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Ironically, considering the backlash, I think this is gonna be the most Bondian film of the Craig-era.

    More Bondesque then Casino Royale? Impossible. It doesn't get more Bond then that as it's based upon a Fleming novel, IMO.
    I meant more in terms of cinematic Bond.

    Ah, I thought you may have, I agree from that perspective.
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    I also get the feeling this will be the most “cinematic Bondian” Bond film for Craig. One of the biggest reasons for this is that it appears the villain’s threat will be more global. Of course CR likely won’t be topped for most “Fleming Bondian” Bond film for Craig - unless there’s a lot more Fleming influence in this movie than we know about?
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    To me QoS is the most Flemingian movie in the Craig era. Spectre is probably the most movie-Bondesque.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    NTTD might even be the first Bond film that feels operatic....I have a feeling the scene with Safin and the girl under the lake, might become an iconic scene in Cinema.
  • edited February 2020 Posts: 1,314
    Walecs wrote: »
    To me QoS is the most Flemingian movie in the Craig era. Spectre is probably the most movie-Bondesque.

    It’s interesting what people class as fleming. Casino Royale is Fleming’s bond IMO. QoS is more brutal but the elements aren’t there. There’s no joy, little sophistication. In CR he eats Royal beluga, stands when the lady approaches his table, enjoys Bollinger Grand Annee, wins with style and makes the most of his time. In QOS he is more of a loner that indulges himself in nothing. Understandable but I don’t get much of that from Fleming. Just my Two penneth.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I’m not getting Fleming from QOS. Like, at all. It feels so apart from Bond in terms of literary and cinema.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    Matt007 wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    To me QoS is the most Flemingian movie in the Craig era. Spectre is probably the most movie-Bondesque.

    It’s interesting what people class as fleming. Casino Royale is Fleming’s bond IMO. QoS is more brutal but the elements aren’t there. There’s no joy, little sophistication. In CR he eats Royal beluga, stands when the lady approaches his table, enjoys Bollinger Grand Annee, wins with style and makes the most of his time. In QOS he is more of a loner that indulges himself in nothing. Understandable but I don’t get much of that from Fleming. Just my Two penneth.

    True that, I forgot about Fleming's hedonism. Then I'll take that back. CR is the most Flemingian, with QoS being a close second.
  • Looks like NTTD has been rated in the USA as PG-13

    https://mobile.twitter.com/mavericksmovies/status/1229919775238709249
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    I am not sure anyone can actually agree on what "Bondian" means.
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    Looks like NTTD has been rated in the USA as PG-13

    https://mobile.twitter.com/mavericksmovies/status/1229919775238709249

    Expected, but nice to have the confirmation. Don’t like to read the speculation of “least sexually charged Bonds in ages.”
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Ryan wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Ironically, considering the backlash, I think this is gonna be the most Bondian film of the Craig-era.
    I couldn't agree more. I think they've all been pushed to give us the best film possible.

    It reminds me of the tabloid nonsense that followed Casino Royale (from the "Craig not Bond" stuff to "he can't drive stick" to "he got his teeth knocked out" to "he's considering quitting already" and so on). They ignored all that and gave us one of the best films in the franchise.
    Not just ignored it--they really pushed back at some of the criticisms. Started the next film with an intense car chase (standard transmission!). Had Felix Leiter offer Bond pills to "make him taller". Brought back the Mr. White character (I listened to years of assurances Quantum would never again be mentioned, and that surely Jesper Christensen would never return.) In a similar way, didn't hesitate to continue what was started in 2015 with Spectre.

    Anyway, it will be great if the filmmakers pack some Scooby snacks into No Time To Die to be relished.
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  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
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    I wonder will we get a final poster then the one we have currently or is that it.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited February 2020 Posts: 5,185
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Looks like NTTD has been rated in the USA as PG-13

    https://mobile.twitter.com/mavericksmovies/status/1229919775238709249

    Expected, but nice to have the confirmation. Don’t like to read the speculation of “least sexually charged Bonds in ages.”

    Well it's just speculation as you said. But it will probably stay in the back of my mind when watching it. We'll see. From the trailers i didn't get that feeling yet, but theres the possible issue of 'monogamy' and how it will play out, as we had discussed before.
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    Walecs wrote: »
    Matt007 wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    To me QoS is the most Flemingian movie in the Craig era. Spectre is probably the most movie-Bondesque.

    It’s interesting what people class as fleming. Casino Royale is Fleming’s bond IMO. QoS is more brutal but the elements aren’t there. There’s no joy, little sophistication. In CR he eats Royal beluga, stands when the lady approaches his table, enjoys Bollinger Grand Annee, wins with style and makes the most of his time. In QOS he is more of a loner that indulges himself in nothing. Understandable but I don’t get much of that from Fleming. Just my Two penneth.

    True that, I forgot about Fleming's hedonism. Then I'll take that back. CR is the most Flemingian, with QoS being a close second.

    I quite like QOS there’s a decent idea trying to get out.

    I forget which book but I’m sure Fleming describes Bonds love of indulgence as being because he know he will be dead by the statutory retirement age of 45 so he lives each day as his last. It’s a great encapsulation of what motivates Bond. I do think the films forget that in some respects. Almost like He drinks bollinger because he’s cool and rich. Not so IMo.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Looks like NTTD has been rated in the USA as PG-13

    https://mobile.twitter.com/mavericksmovies/status/1229919775238709249

    Thanks for sharing mate. Is that what it normally is?

    Does this mean anything for the film? More or less violent and less sexualised.
    Will Bond be monogamous
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    A very encouraging interview...

  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Looks like NTTD has been rated in the USA as PG-13

    https://mobile.twitter.com/mavericksmovies/status/1229919775238709249

    Thanks for sharing mate. Is that what it normally is?

    Does this mean anything for the film? More or less violent and less sexualised.
    Will Bond be monogamous

    Rating is more or less the same. But the description is a tad different in that it doesn't feature 'sexuality' as did all the Brosnan and Craig films until Spectre, which had 'sensual' instead, whatever that means. Now we arrived at suggestive... A bit weird. I thought judging from the trailers, the Matera Hotel room stuff should have been enough to get it there...
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    00Agent wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Looks like NTTD has been rated in the USA as PG-13

    https://mobile.twitter.com/mavericksmovies/status/1229919775238709249

    Thanks for sharing mate. Is that what it normally is?

    Does this mean anything for the film? More or less violent and less sexualised.
    Will Bond be monogamous

    Rating is more or less the same. But the description is a tad different in that it doesn't feature 'sexuality' as did all the Brosnan and Craig films until Spectre, which had 'sensual' instead, whatever that means. Now we arrived at suggestive... A bit weird. I thought judging from the trailers, the Matera Hotel room stuff should have been enough to get it there...

    Ahh thanks replying man. It's definitely interesting to see how No Time To Die will be different, I wonder how it will affect the film, if it all.
    I do hope the fights are more full on, like Casino, because you felt every blow and injury to Bond in that film.

    I'll be honest, I did half expect a more subdued vibe in terms how sexualised the film will be, with Madeline returning, the MeToo movement and so on.
    If handled right, it could be interesting to see how Bond handles being monogamous. Provided it doesn't look to us the audience, like he's changed and had his wings clipped so to speak
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Looks like NTTD has been rated in the USA as PG-13

    https://mobile.twitter.com/mavericksmovies/status/1229919775238709249

    Thanks for sharing mate. Is that what it normally is?

    Does this mean anything for the film? More or less violent and less sexualised.
    Will Bond be monogamous

    Just checked the local cinema s web page. Looks like it will be rated 15 here in Norway, the premiere is April 3rd and the runtime is scheduled as 2h36min.
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    Octopussy wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Ironically, considering the backlash, I think this is gonna be the most Bondian film of the Craig-era.

    More Bondesque then Casino Royale? Impossible. It doesn't get more Bond then that as it's based upon a Fleming novel, IMO.

    Not necessarily. It's not as weird as Fleming for starters, which is a label I'd more quickly place on Skyfall.

    In a lot of cases for Bond, the stranger the better.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited February 2020 Posts: 5,185
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    00Agent wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Looks like NTTD has been rated in the USA as PG-13

    https://mobile.twitter.com/mavericksmovies/status/1229919775238709249

    Thanks for sharing mate. Is that what it normally is?

    Does this mean anything for the film? More or less violent and less sexualised.
    Will Bond be monogamous

    Rating is more or less the same. But the description is a tad different in that it doesn't feature 'sexuality' as did all the Brosnan and Craig films until Spectre, which had 'sensual' instead, whatever that means. Now we arrived at suggestive... A bit weird. I thought judging from the trailers, the Matera Hotel room stuff should have been enough to get it there...

    Ahh thanks replying man. It's definitely interesting to see how No Time To Die will be different, I wonder how it will affect the film, if it all.
    I do hope the fights are more full on, like Casino, because you felt every blow and injury to Bond in that film.

    I'll be honest, I did half expect a more subdued vibe in terms how sexualised the film will be, with Madeline returning, the MeToo movement and so on.
    If handled right, it could be interesting to see how Bond handles being monogamous. Provided it doesn't look to us the audience, like he's changed and had his wings clipped so to speak

    I always suspected that Bond could end up being monogamous in NTTD, due to Barbara saying it's an epic love story, and Madeline returning etc.

    Thankfully EoN were smart enough to frontload the film with some sexy time in an Matera hotel room, and show it in the trailer. That should have shut a lot of people up who though that the film could end up being totally sexless due to Metoo and all that stuff, but i was never worried about that, because a bond film (or book) without a conquest is like a hamburger without meat. It's part of the formula.

    But the question remains what happens in the time he's "single". After all it does look like they break up for good, and he's back on his own in Jamaica. From what i can tell it does very much look like he is hitting on Nomi in that Jamaica bar. OR what would be even cleverer is if she is actually hitting on HIM (if you wanna be progressive and independent, why not go for that). The point is he does seem very open to it, and they do end up in his bedroom after all. Only then does she reveal who she really is (and takes of her wig, as it's next to her on the bed), so everyone can guess for themselves how they end up there. And even though the scene does not materialize into anything else than a couple knees being threatened, it would still be a great opportunity for some sexy banter.

    And then there is the big question mark of Paloma... She will probably not have enough screen time to have any meaningful exchange with Bond, and be single minded on her Job and Spectre, but i do hope i'm wrong, and they will have a little flirt in between.
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    ...................and a new movie themes compilation album "BOND 25" with all new arrangements.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
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  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    New pic of DC in Matera.

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