No Time to Die production thread

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  • Posts: 3,164
    The Total Film cover story is pretty explicit on all fronts from everyone that this was intended as Craig's last film.
  • Posts: 12,473
    I don’t think he’s coming back after NTTD either. Just thought I’d share this for the purpose of some new discussion. As much as I love Craig as Bond, it’s time for the next era.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited March 2020 Posts: 16,413
    You know, at this point in time NTTD is an extra to me. It's the end of Craig's tenure and we should be looking forward. EoN should be looking forward, for quite a while now actually. In stead of sitting back and relax (they're good at that nowadays at EoN HQ), the search for the next Bond should actively commence, discreetly at that, so when NTTD finally drops not long after they can announce the new Bond and perhaps an outline of the new (hopefully classic) vision, set out plans for a script. After so many delays and negativity it should be a given to EoN. They have the coolest jobs in the world for pete's sake! Give us a new Bond film every 3 years, 2 might be pushing it. Onwards and upwards, out with emo Bond, back to the Connery days pretty please.

    In short: EoN start planning ahead! Go and seek the new Bond, which should be Aidan Turner, but don't let this silly situation rob yourself and us of the future we all deserve and very much enjoy.

    I guess it would be fun if, with this extra time until release, they did do just enough planning for B26 to give us a proper 'JAMES BOND WILL RETURN IN...'
    :)
    FoxRox wrote: »

    He has generally shied away from any questions about it being his last one, although I don't think he's denied it at any point. I guess he's just aware that situations change: never say never and all that ;)
    I think it's pretty certain that he's done, but nothing's ever set in stone.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 4,247
    Daniel Craig is a great Bond. But I think it's time for a new era. But if they're going to make his 6th film a standalone adventure, then I wouldn't mind him returning. Just concerned that if he returns, they might want to link his 6th film with NTTD. So certain things might be undermined....again.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited March 2020 Posts: 16,413
    Contraband wrote: »
    Si vous êtes fan de James Bond et que le report du nouvel opus vous attriste, plongez dans ce hors-série de @magazinelire sur 007 et ses belles photos pour vous remonter le moral ! Disponible en kiosque dès aujourd’hui ! 😊 #jamesbond #Notimetodie #cinema #007 . 📸(c) Nicola Dove 2019 Danjaq, LLC and MGM. All rights reserved

    Translation, sort of:

    NEW I The special issue "JAMES BOND, Spies are Eternal" is available from your newsagent! 🍸🤵 The most secret agent in the world will have none for you, thanks to this number which will help you to wait until the film is released in November! ➡️ available on www.lire.fr



    Nicola Dove behind the stills would mean official stills, maybe new set pictures. All you french members in here should get the mag asap!!

    A bit off-topic, but I was wondering this yesterday watching a doc on the Thunderball disc: what are those things that Fleming used to wear? Are they shirts or jackets? Why do they have belts?
    We need to know! :D
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    Posts: 3,022
    Swatch promo



  • Posts: 3,164
    Posted this on Twitter, some speculation to throw out there - could we see an autumn festival run happen?

    First off, the film - for once, for a major blockbuster - should actually be fully done to make that happen. Unlike previous Bonds with very very tight post production schedules. Secondly, the success of A Star is Born & Joker on the circuit - particularly the latter - surely has opened doors to other studio blockbusters to use that as a launchpad. While those were admittedly more awards-positioned in a way Bond may not be, we did have Knives Out... And with Bond being a more 'prestige' blockbuster franchise, festival ambitions - doesn't have to be competition - would fit right in. Can also take place of a more conventional press/premiere tour partly, is doing festivals more or less expensive than bespoke premieres?

    From a fan POV, of course the possibility of seeing the film as early as late August/early September is exciting after the gut punch of a delay. Bond isn't nearly on the Marvel/Star Wars level of spoiler paranoia and bad actor leak risks, not nearly as much a concern. Like, no one leaked out whodunnit in Knives Out after TIFF, right? Or at least hasn't spammed the film's hashtags with it. In any case such a move, while unprecedented (as this whole situation is) could be a smart way to build *fresh* word of mouth back up, I would argue. After months upon months of delays, word of mouth from people actually seeing the film leading into it finally coming out, would be quite a thing.

    But, will these autumn festivals even go ahead with the virus situation? And more importantly, this would require a ton of confidence in the film being positively received. Months of mixed or negative reviews leading to release would be hard to overcome image wise, though Joker has showed to a certain extent that it doesn't matter as much?

    Possible timeline:
    - Venice world premiere: Sept 2-12
    - TIFF North America/IMAX premiere: Sept 10-20
    - LFF - Surprise Film slot as to not cannibalise Royal Albert Hall premiere? Oct 7-18

    And close off with the usual RAH premiere in early November.
  • edited March 2020 Posts: 4,409
    antovolk wrote: »
    Posted this on Twitter, some speculation to throw out there - could we see an autumn festival run happen?

    First off, the film - for once, for a major blockbuster - should actually be fully done to make that happen. Unlike previous Bonds with very very tight post production schedules. Secondly, the success of A Star is Born & Joker on the circuit - particularly the latter - surely has opened doors to other studio blockbusters to use that as a launchpad. While those were admittedly more awards-positioned in a way Bond may not be, we did have Knives Out... And with Bond being a more 'prestige' blockbuster franchise, festival ambitions - doesn't have to be competition - would fit right in. Can also take place of a more conventional press/premiere tour partly, is doing festivals more or less expensive than bespoke premieres?

    From a fan POV, of course the possibility of seeing the film as early as late August/early September is exciting after the gut punch of a delay. Bond isn't nearly on the Marvel/Star Wars level of spoiler paranoia and bad actor leak risks, not nearly as much a concern. Like, no one leaked out whodunnit in Knives Out after TIFF, right? Or at least hasn't spammed the film's hashtags with it. In any case such a move, while unprecedented (as this whole situation is) could be a smart way to build *fresh* word of mouth back up, I would argue. After months upon months of delays, word of mouth from people actually seeing the film leading into it finally coming out, would be quite a thing.

    But, will these autumn festivals even go ahead with the virus situation? And more importantly, this would require a ton of confidence in the film being positively received. Months of mixed or negative reviews leading to release would be hard to overcome image wise, though Joker has showed to a certain extent that it doesn't matter as much?

    Possible timeline:
    - Venice world premiere: Sept 2-12
    - TIFF North America/IMAX premiere: Sept 10-20
    - LFF - Surprise Film slot as to not cannibalise Royal Albert Hall premiere? Oct 7-18

    And close off with the usual RAH premiere in early November.

    Nope.

    The Royal World Premiere precedes a Bond film. A poxy screening in Venice or Toronto doesn't quite compare to the hype this event generates:

    maxresdefault.jpg
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,188
    That would be an excellent strategy to build up hype, especially if the film turns out great. The case for making this special not just because they suddenly have more time between completing the film and releasing it in general, but that it's Craig last film as Bond.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,217
    antovolk wrote: »
    Posted this on Twitter, some speculation to throw out there - could we see an autumn festival run happen?

    First off, the film - for once, for a major blockbuster - should actually be fully done to make that happen. Unlike previous Bonds with very very tight post production schedules. Secondly, the success of A Star is Born & Joker on the circuit - particularly the latter - surely has opened doors to other studio blockbusters to use that as a launchpad. While those were admittedly more awards-positioned in a way Bond may not be, we did have Knives Out... And with Bond being a more 'prestige' blockbuster franchise, festival ambitions - doesn't have to be competition - would fit right in. Can also take place of a more conventional press/premiere tour partly, is doing festivals more or less expensive than bespoke premieres?

    From a fan POV, of course the possibility of seeing the film as early as late August/early September is exciting after the gut punch of a delay. Bond isn't nearly on the Marvel/Star Wars level of spoiler paranoia and bad actor leak risks, not nearly as much a concern. Like, no one leaked out whodunnit in Knives Out after TIFF, right? Or at least hasn't spammed the film's hashtags with it. In any case such a move, while unprecedented (as this whole situation is) could be a smart way to build *fresh* word of mouth back up, I would argue. After months upon months of delays, word of mouth from people actually seeing the film leading into it finally coming out, would be quite a thing.

    But, will these autumn festivals even go ahead with the virus situation? And more importantly, this would require a ton of confidence in the film being positively received. Months of mixed or negative reviews leading to release would be hard to overcome image wise, though Joker has showed to a certain extent that it doesn't matter as much?

    Possible timeline:
    - Venice world premiere: Sept 2-12
    - TIFF North America/IMAX premiere: Sept 10-20
    - LFF - Surprise Film slot as to not cannibalise Royal Albert Hall premiere? Oct 7-18

    And close off with the usual RAH premiere in early November.

    Nope.

    The Royal World Premiere precedes a Bond film. A poxy screening in Venice or Toronto doesn't quite compare to the hype this event generates:

    maxresdefault.jpg

    But if you're looking for some awards hype, those poxy screenings are the ones that will generate it.
  • Posts: 3,164
    antovolk wrote: »
    Posted this on Twitter, some speculation to throw out there - could we see an autumn festival run happen?

    First off, the film - for once, for a major blockbuster - should actually be fully done to make that happen. Unlike previous Bonds with very very tight post production schedules. Secondly, the success of A Star is Born & Joker on the circuit - particularly the latter - surely has opened doors to other studio blockbusters to use that as a launchpad. While those were admittedly more awards-positioned in a way Bond may not be, we did have Knives Out... And with Bond being a more 'prestige' blockbuster franchise, festival ambitions - doesn't have to be competition - would fit right in. Can also take place of a more conventional press/premiere tour partly, is doing festivals more or less expensive than bespoke premieres?

    From a fan POV, of course the possibility of seeing the film as early as late August/early September is exciting after the gut punch of a delay. Bond isn't nearly on the Marvel/Star Wars level of spoiler paranoia and bad actor leak risks, not nearly as much a concern. Like, no one leaked out whodunnit in Knives Out after TIFF, right? Or at least hasn't spammed the film's hashtags with it. In any case such a move, while unprecedented (as this whole situation is) could be a smart way to build *fresh* word of mouth back up, I would argue. After months upon months of delays, word of mouth from people actually seeing the film leading into it finally coming out, would be quite a thing.

    But, will these autumn festivals even go ahead with the virus situation? And more importantly, this would require a ton of confidence in the film being positively received. Months of mixed or negative reviews leading to release would be hard to overcome image wise, though Joker has showed to a certain extent that it doesn't matter as much?

    Possible timeline:
    - Venice world premiere: Sept 2-12
    - TIFF North America/IMAX premiere: Sept 10-20
    - LFF - Surprise Film slot as to not cannibalise Royal Albert Hall premiere? Oct 7-18

    And close off with the usual RAH premiere in early November.

    Nope.

    The Royal World Premiere precedes a Bond film. A poxy screening in Venice or Toronto doesn't quite compare to the hype this event generates:

    maxresdefault.jpg

    And having a Royal (but not necessarily World) Premiere week of UK release in early November would still generate that hype - would actually also say that these festival screenings would generate international hype the way a Bond premiere or any film-specific premiere like that doesn't quite do beyond the immediate area/territory where it takes place. Again, we're in uncharted territory here, who knows what they'll do. Would argue the entire rulebook when it comes to releasing Bond is kinda out of the window because of the opportunities a fully finished film provides.

    Also, we still don't know whether the World Premiere on the 31st was gonna be a Royal World Premiere!
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    antovolk wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    Posted this on Twitter, some speculation to throw out there - could we see an autumn festival run happen?

    First off, the film - for once, for a major blockbuster - should actually be fully done to make that happen. Unlike previous Bonds with very very tight post production schedules. Secondly, the success of A Star is Born & Joker on the circuit - particularly the latter - surely has opened doors to other studio blockbusters to use that as a launchpad. While those were admittedly more awards-positioned in a way Bond may not be, we did have Knives Out... And with Bond being a more 'prestige' blockbuster franchise, festival ambitions - doesn't have to be competition - would fit right in. Can also take place of a more conventional press/premiere tour partly, is doing festivals more or less expensive than bespoke premieres?

    From a fan POV, of course the possibility of seeing the film as early as late August/early September is exciting after the gut punch of a delay. Bond isn't nearly on the Marvel/Star Wars level of spoiler paranoia and bad actor leak risks, not nearly as much a concern. Like, no one leaked out whodunnit in Knives Out after TIFF, right? Or at least hasn't spammed the film's hashtags with it. In any case such a move, while unprecedented (as this whole situation is) could be a smart way to build *fresh* word of mouth back up, I would argue. After months upon months of delays, word of mouth from people actually seeing the film leading into it finally coming out, would be quite a thing.

    But, will these autumn festivals even go ahead with the virus situation? And more importantly, this would require a ton of confidence in the film being positively received. Months of mixed or negative reviews leading to release would be hard to overcome image wise, though Joker has showed to a certain extent that it doesn't matter as much?

    Possible timeline:
    - Venice world premiere: Sept 2-12
    - TIFF North America/IMAX premiere: Sept 10-20
    - LFF - Surprise Film slot as to not cannibalise Royal Albert Hall premiere? Oct 7-18

    And close off with the usual RAH premiere in early November.

    Nope.

    The Royal World Premiere precedes a Bond film. A poxy screening in Venice or Toronto doesn't quite compare to the hype this event generates:

    maxresdefault.jpg

    And having a Royal (but not necessarily World) Premiere week of UK release in early November would still generate that hype - would actually also say that these festival screenings would generate international hype the way a Bond premiere or any film-specific premiere like that doesn't quite do beyond the immediate area/territory where it takes place. Again, we're in uncharted territory here, who knows what they'll do. Would argue the entire rulebook when it comes to releasing Bond is kinda out of the window because of the opportunities a fully finished film provides.

    Also, we still don't know whether the World Premiere on the 31st was gonna be a Royal World Premiere!

    They should hold a world premiere for us, MI6 royalty. We have been suffering enough. [-(
  • HildebrandRarityHildebrandRarity Centre international d'assistance aux personnes déplacées, Paris, France
    edited March 2020 Posts: 482
    It would make no sense for the marketing to have a world premiere at a film festival more than a month before release. They couldn’t build on the event with such a gap.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,188
    It would make perfect sense: Reviews come out much earlier, then the grand premiere comes out with everyone hyped.
  • Posts: 3,164
    It would make no sense for the marketing to have a world premiere at a film festival more than a month before release. They couldn’t build on the event with such a gap.

    Ask a whole bunch of films that have done just that :P - the key is keeping momentum going which is why films do multiple fests...

    Anyway - Total Film stills


  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,217
    It would make no sense for the marketing to have a world premiere at a film festival more than a month before release. They couldn’t build on the event with such a gap.

    They absolutely could.

    I think EON are very confident in what the film ultimately ended up as, so I'm sure having some positive reviews float on social media for a month before release would generate some much needed good will for the film.

    It would be a win win, if they found the right slot at the right festival. The Royal World Premiere (which would still be called as such) could be even more extravagant with the critical pressure taken off.

    And, to further the point I noted above, most of these festivals are frequented (and jurored!) by Academy members; more than would attend the Royal Premiere for sure. If you're the type who wants Bond to be in the Oscar race in some capacity, for categories other than song, this would be a great opportunity to get the film on people's minds.
  • Posts: 380
    antovolk wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    Posted this on Twitter, some speculation to throw out there - could we see an autumn festival run happen?

    First off, the film - for once, for a major blockbuster - should actually be fully done to make that happen. Unlike previous Bonds with very very tight post production schedules. Secondly, the success of A Star is Born & Joker on the circuit - particularly the latter - surely has opened doors to other studio blockbusters to use that as a launchpad. While those were admittedly more awards-positioned in a way Bond may not be, we did have Knives Out... And with Bond being a more 'prestige' blockbuster franchise, festival ambitions - doesn't have to be competition - would fit right in. Can also take place of a more conventional press/premiere tour partly, is doing festivals more or less expensive than bespoke premieres?

    From a fan POV, of course the possibility of seeing the film as early as late August/early September is exciting after the gut punch of a delay. Bond isn't nearly on the Marvel/Star Wars level of spoiler paranoia and bad actor leak risks, not nearly as much a concern. Like, no one leaked out whodunnit in Knives Out after TIFF, right? Or at least hasn't spammed the film's hashtags with it. In any case such a move, while unprecedented (as this whole situation is) could be a smart way to build *fresh* word of mouth back up, I would argue. After months upon months of delays, word of mouth from people actually seeing the film leading into it finally coming out, would be quite a thing.

    But, will these autumn festivals even go ahead with the virus situation? And more importantly, this would require a ton of confidence in the film being positively received. Months of mixed or negative reviews leading to release would be hard to overcome image wise, though Joker has showed to a certain extent that it doesn't matter as much?

    Possible timeline:
    - Venice world premiere: Sept 2-12
    - TIFF North America/IMAX premiere: Sept 10-20
    - LFF - Surprise Film slot as to not cannibalise Royal Albert Hall premiere? Oct 7-18

    And close off with the usual RAH premiere in early November.

    Nope.

    The Royal World Premiere precedes a Bond film. A poxy screening in Venice or Toronto doesn't quite compare to the hype this event generates:

    maxresdefault.jpg

    And having a Royal (but not necessarily World) Premiere week of UK release in early November would still generate that hype - would actually also say that these festival screenings would generate international hype the way a Bond premiere or any film-specific premiere like that doesn't quite do beyond the immediate area/territory where it takes place. Again, we're in uncharted territory here, who knows what they'll do. Would argue the entire rulebook when it comes to releasing Bond is kinda out of the window because of the opportunities a fully finished film provides.

    Also, we still don't know whether the World Premiere on the 31st was gonna be a Royal World Premiere!

    It’s a really good idea! They can show the film at Venice and then have the British premier.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    edited March 2020 Posts: 3,497
    antovolk wrote: »
    It would make no sense for the marketing to have a world premiere at a film festival more than a month before release. They couldn’t build on the event with such a gap.

    Ask a whole bunch of films that have done just that :P - the key is keeping momentum going which is why films do multiple fests...

    Anyway - Total Film stills



    Well, having Bond incarcerated for most of the movie is quite madcap...

    Hey Léa... smile! :) ;)
  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
    edited March 2020 Posts: 871

    If NTTD goes to a festival two months before the premiere, isn't there a possibility of a screener to leak?

  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 7,582
    Safin comes from ‘a large scale chemical/pharmaceutical family

    Oops. Film delayed strictly for financial reasons??
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,217
    If NTTD goes to a festival two months before the premiere, isn't there a possibility of a screener to leak?

    It would neither increase nor decrease the chances of that, I don't think. Festivals are generally pretty airtight. Screeners leaking generally come from studio errors, or someone being careless during awards season.
  • edited March 2020 Posts: 490
    Oof Safin looks creepy as hell as always. Thanks for posting these.

    I wonder what Boyle's "madcap" ideas were.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    FoxRox wrote: »
    The whole situation is quite aggravating. Other movies are still coming out for other fans, and this is far from the first problem Bond 25 has encountered. If there hadn’t already been MULTIPLE delays and setbacks, this would be a little easier to swallow. November isn’t even nearly a guarantee either - just the newest date in a potentially still-growing list.

    Exactly. If I wasn’t so obsessed. I’d refuse to go in Nov....but that’s never going to happen.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 7,582
    Don't worry. Black market copies will flood through before too long. No way they will keep this completed film under wraps for 7 more months.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    Posts: 1,318
    NicNac wrote: »
    Safin comes from ‘a large scale chemical/pharmaceutical family

    Oops. Film delayed strictly for financial reasons??

    There is a rumour, supposedly communicated to cinemas, that it's one of the reasons. However, personally I feel that it's solely a financial reason.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,217
    We shall see. Hopefully not. I'd imagine it's on lockdown for fear of that very scenario.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited March 2020 Posts: 5,970
    I think it's both. Doesn't have to just be one thing that's caused this decision.
  • Posts: 618
    From The Daily Beast (a reputable U.S. news site) this morning:

    Organizers of the fast-approaching Olympic Games in Tokyo have discussed taking the unprecedented step of holding them behind closed doors with no fans, The New York Times reports. Tokyo 2020 is scheduled to begin on July 22—but the worldwide coronavirus outbreak has raised serious questions about whether it should go ahead.

    Earlier this week, the Japanese government hinted it could legally delay the Games until later in the year, on the assumption that the outbreak will eventually abate. But, according to the Times, the closed-door proposal was discussed on a conference call last week between World Health Organization officials and medical officers for the international sports federations that run Olympic competitions. Holding the Olympics without spectators, and having to refund ticket sales, could reportedly cost Tokyo organizers some $850 million.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    edited March 2020 Posts: 3,022
    Guess what I have?

    Total Film, full issue march 2020: NTTD incl. interview with Eva Green (Pages 55-78)

    PDF
    https://minfil.com/j1mdm1fco2/2020-03-01_Total_Film_pdf

  • edited March 2020 Posts: 3,164
    Cary's Instagram story - the film is done minus minor tweaks https://instagram.com/stories/cary_fukunaga/2258864248566830888?igshid=1gqaqs958b6mt
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