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    Sensing all the doom and gloom is distracting from the fact that a new Bond film is coming (eventually)!

    I'm curious how people think the plot will play out. we already have some intel that we will get the longest PST sequence since TWINE with Norway and Matera playing out before the titles.

    However....what next? I know folk thought there may be a sequence where David Dencik's character gets kidnapped. Could that be here:

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    If so, do we think Nomi will be introduced in this sequence? Or will we get that classic Bond set-up, where M talks to Moneypenny about some massive international incident and says "Get 007 here now." Then we cut to Nomi walking into the office.....if so, will we get a riff on Nomi meeting Moneypenny and getting her gadgets from Q? that could be very fun...

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    The question is how do they bring Bond back into the fold? After all, seemingly the scientist is in Cuba but Nomi makes a stop in Jamaica first. Is Nomi there to keep an eye on the CIA? Is her actual mission to tail Felix and see who he is meeting? Hence her encounter with Bond?

    I think Madeleine is still the romantic lead of the film, but I reckon Nomi is in the film a lot....I think after Matera, we have to wait till at least the middle of the second act for Madeleine to return. The only think that makes me think that Madeleine is in the film more is that fact that Lea is on the poster, she's been on a ton of the marketing and press for the film. So I believe she is in this movie a heck of a lot more than we think. Plus, it's basically confirmed that Ana De Armas has a 'cameo.' Which makes Madeleine and Nomi the nominal leading ladies.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Zekidk wrote: »
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    My goodness, he looks like Lazenby here.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited May 2020 Posts: 15,713
    The_Return wrote: »
    You don't have to be optimistic to think NTTD will be released in November in theaters- You have to be very pessimistic to think it will be delayed yet again. Not even the delay of Tenet is a certainty and it's supposed to open more than three months before NTTD.

    Just as some states have reopened, the US has recorded its deadliest day (so far), with 2,909 deaths from coronavirus on Friday.

    https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/05/02/who-us-just-reported-deadliest-day-for-coronavirus.html

    It sadly may be very difficult to reopen the economy for people to go to restaurants/cinemas/concerts/etc, given the virus seemingly won't go away, and we have to deal with an unprecedented 30 million unemployed US citizens (potentially up to 1.5 billion unemployed people worldwide. It is not just about the virus now, but also a worldwide economy on the verge of collapse.
  • Bentley007Bentley007 Manitoba, Canada
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    Dont know if this Behind the Scenes video has been posted but had some minor spoilers and lots of new content I had not viewed.

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    Has this really been confirmed NTTD is pushed back again to 2021?
    Or is this just speculation?
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Has this really been confirmed NTTD is pushed back again to 2021?
    Or is this just speculation?
    Speculation.
  • edited May 2020 Posts: 4,408
    Also, Jeffrey Wright talks through his iconic roles:


    Bentley007 wrote: »
    Dont know if this Behind the Scenes video has been posted but had some minor spoilers and lots of new content I had not viewed.

    Wow!!! Amazing video with lots of behind the scenes footage from the Scotland filmed car chase! Also a new clapperboard of scene 187.

    Which confirms that the Norway chase comes after Bond meets Blofeld which is scene.....were there any clapperboards from scenes with Bond and Nomi in Safin's HQ?????? I know @Contraband and @antovolk will know the answer

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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Has this really been confirmed NTTD is pushed back again to 2021?
    Or is this just speculation?

    The latest is from the ever reliable Baz Bamigboye is that the plan is for NTTD to have a theatrical release. Therefore if November 2020 is not feasible, than they will reschedule the release to a date to be determined in 2021.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited May 2020 Posts: 16,338
    Bentley007 wrote: »
    Dont know if this Behind the Scenes video has been posted but had some minor spoilers and lots of new content I had not viewed.

    Cool thanks for that, it's certainly new to me.
    So it's definitely set in Norway, and there's an Aston Vantage with a stunt driver cab on the roof too, so maybe there's a little bit of action with that car after all?
  • Agent_OneAgent_One Ireland
    edited May 2020 Posts: 280
    Honestly, it annoys me that they're doing the whole 'Bond isn't relevant anymore' plot only two films after Skyfall, and even there it didn't 100% work either. Why couldn't Bond just be on leave at the end of Spectre?
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    Agent_One wrote: »
    Honestly, it annoys me that they're doing the whole 'Bond isn't relevant anymore' plot only two films after Skyfall, and even there it didn't 100% work either. Why couldn't Bond just be on leave at the end of Spectre?

    I think the "Bond isn't relevant anymore" plot should have been left alone after GoldenEye. That film proved otherwise. Case closed.
  • Agent_OneAgent_One Ireland
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Agent_One wrote: »
    Honestly, it annoys me that they're doing the whole 'Bond isn't relevant anymore' plot only two films after Skyfall, and even there it didn't 100% work either. Why couldn't Bond just be on leave at the end of Spectre?

    I think the "Bond isn't relevant anymore" plot should have been left alone after GoldenEye. That film proved otherwise. Case closed.

    Yeah, burn out was enough of an issue for Bond in SF.
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
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    Agent_One wrote: »
    Honestly, it annoys me that they're doing the whole 'Bond isn't relevant anymore' plot only two films after Skyfall, and even there it didn't 100% work either. Why couldn't Bond just be on leave at the end of Spectre?

    I have pondered this many times.
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    I think we are going to be getting another release delay for NTTD? With it mentioned on the last podcast, the article on MI6, the situation worldwide, and also the time it may well take to find an effective vaccine? I wonder if they will delay a further full year to November 2021? Then they will basically tie it in to the 60th anniversary of the franchise?!!!!
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Agent_One wrote: »
    Honestly, it annoys me that they're doing the whole 'Bond isn't relevant anymore' plot only two films after Skyfall, and even there it didn't 100% work either. Why couldn't Bond just be on leave at the end of Spectre?

    I have pondered this many times.

    Because that’s how Purvis and Wade write. They’ve been dried up since their beginning. Sorry to beat a dead horse, folks. Them leaving for good after DC leaves is the number one thing that needs to happen.
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
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    Broccoli and Wilson are 100% to blame for SP. They have the final say. If they don't, they have given up that power and authority over the direction of the series. If Purvis and Wade are bad writers, then its the ones who pay their wages who have to take responsibility for accepting their ideas and continually re-employing them.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Broccoli and Wilson are 100% to blame for SP. They have the final say. If they don't, they have given up that power and authority over the direction of the series. If Purvis and Wade are bad writers, then its the ones who pay their wages who have to take responsibility for accepting their ideas and continually re-employing them.

    This is a great point. I'd happily put the blame for bad stories on P&W but I think you're 100% right.
  • Agent_OneAgent_One Ireland
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    P&W did write two of my favourite Bond films (CR and SF) so I don't think they're completely talentless.
  • HildebrandRarityHildebrandRarity Centre international d'assistance aux personnes déplacées, Paris, France
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    Regarding the "Bond isn't relevant anymore" thing, you have to see the other side of the coin. In the first films, Bond was this great secret agent, who'd accomplish bigger and bigger things, until he basically saved the world in Thunderball. After that, everybody at MI6 would go on with what he'd suggest. The scenes with Moneypenny, Q or M, particularly in the Moore days, were on autopilot. They would just use some unordinary setting, like Abu Simbel or the wreck of the Queen Elizabeth to make them stand out.
    That's quite different from the books, where M keeps on having reservations on Bond, with a tenser relationship which they finally brought to the films when Judi Dench got the part.

    During the Brosnan and Craig years, the writers could have definitely come up with something more original. There may have been too many instances of a second act that's about Bond having to prove to his allies that he's the right guy for the job, with Skyfall being also in many ways a meta comment on the whole history of the franchise even more than on the particular Bond character played by Craig. But there was also a need to justify that a guy with such past achievements wouldn't get too much help provided by the MI6 or the CIA to crush an opponent, so he would have to stand on his own.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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  • Agent_OneAgent_One Ireland
    edited May 2020 Posts: 280
    Regarding the "Bond isn't relevant anymore" thing, you have to see the other side of the coin. In the first films, Bond was this great secret agent, who'd accomplish bigger and bigger things, until he basically saved the world in Thunderball. After that, everybody at MI6 would go on with what he'd suggest. The scenes with Moneypenny, Q or M, particularly in the Moore days, were on autopilot. They would just use some unordinary setting, like Abu Simbel or the wreck of the Queen Elizabeth to make them stand out.
    That's quite different from the books, where M keeps on having reservations on Bond, with a tenser relationship which they finally brought to the films when Judi Dench got the part.

    During the Brosnan and Craig years, the writers could have definitely come up with something more original. There may have been too many instances of a second act that's about Bond having to prove to his allies that he's the right guy for the job, with Skyfall being also in many ways a meta comment on the whole history of the franchise even more than on the particular Bond character played by Craig. But there was also a need to justify that a guy with such past achievements wouldn't get too much help provided by the MI6 or the CIA to crush an opponent, so he would have to stand on his own.
    Still, doing it twice in one era is overkill.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    @Pierce2Daniel Nope. No clapperboards in Safins lair that I know of.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    edited May 2020 Posts: 13,767
    Still another side to this item: it's been a longtime part of the formula that Bond is at odds with the bureaucrats. They've been dismissing him since Thunderball. Moonraker also comes to mind. It's cooked in that OO7 is a red-headed stepchild to them, they're ready to throw him under the bus when it suits them. And up front they don't approve of his methods.

    Not a new concept for the franchise. With Craig Bond, it makes sense that wouldn't be a one-off type element. It makes even more sense that our modern world would damn the person saving them. And that he'd do it anyway.

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited May 2020 Posts: 16,338
    Contraband wrote: »
    Screencaps: Scotland location, second unit and stunt crew

    Thanks Contra, surprised no-one seems interested in this..?
    Contraband wrote: »
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    This is the one that interests me: they don't usually put those stunt driver rigs on top of cars for just standard driving scenes, do they? They're there for stunt driving, which suggests the V8 sees a bit of action. I'm not sure there was any hint of that before, was there?

    (Not much clearance on those wheelarches either! :) Have they lowered them?)
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
    Posts: 737
    Regarding the "Bond isn't relevant anymore" thing, you have to see the other side of the coin. In the first films, Bond was this great secret agent, who'd accomplish bigger and bigger things, until he basically saved the world in Thunderball. After that, everybody at MI6 would go on with what he'd suggest. The scenes with Moneypenny, Q or M, particularly in the Moore days, were on autopilot. They would just use some unordinary setting, like Abu Simbel or the wreck of the Queen Elizabeth to make them stand out.
    That's quite different from the books, where M keeps on having reservations on Bond, with a tenser relationship which they finally brought to the films when Judi Dench got the part.

    During the Brosnan and Craig years, the writers could have definitely come up with something more original. There may have been too many instances of a second act that's about Bond having to prove to his allies that he's the right guy for the job, with Skyfall being also in many ways a meta comment on the whole history of the franchise even more than on the particular Bond character played by Craig. But there was also a need to justify that a guy with such past achievements wouldn't get too much help provided by the MI6 or the CIA to crush an opponent, so he would have to stand on his own.

    Interesting. I always appreciate alternative points of view on Bond.

    I think the problem is that, despite it being reboot, the franchise now relies upon the idea of Bond being a brilliant agent. But if you discount everything prior to Craig, which we should if it is a new timeline, then Craig's Bond has done nothing to justify having such a good reputation.

  • DoctorKaufmannDoctorKaufmann Can shoot you from Stuttgart and still make it look like suicide.
    edited May 2020 Posts: 1,261
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Agent_One wrote: »
    Honestly, it annoys me that they're doing the whole 'Bond isn't relevant anymore' plot only two films after Skyfall, and even there it didn't 100% work either. Why couldn't Bond just be on leave at the end of Spectre?

    I have pondered this many times.

    Because that’s how Purvis and Wade write. They’ve been dried up since their beginning. Sorry to beat a dead horse, folks. Them leaving for good after DC leaves is the number one thing that needs to happen.

    *offtopicbegins* But you do know, who first and foremost fuck up DAD? Not P&W, there was madman by the name of Lee Tamahori helming it and having the most ridiculous ideas of his worked into the shooting script. Only saying, because many people prefer to blame them for this mess. Tamahori wanted all that crap, and BB and MGW supported him on that. They use to do that with every director they hire. At least after shooting has started and the director did not walk out by himself.*offtopicends*
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    edited May 2020 Posts: 13,767
    I think the problem is that, despite it being reboot, the franchise now relies upon the idea of Bond being a brilliant agent. But if you discount everything prior to Craig, which we should if it is a new timeline, then Craig's Bond has done nothing to justify having such a good reputation.

    Actually wouldn't that ethos apply to Connery Bond if you're looking for the character to be justified.

    Rather than just understood up front as the best, as he's always been past and present. And based on performance in the field, it's justified as well.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Well I enjoyed the making of video. But continue the usual 'Daniel Craig's Bond films are crap' conversation by all means... 8-|
  • Agent_OneAgent_One Ireland
    edited May 2020 Posts: 280
    mtm wrote: »
    Well I enjoyed the making of video. But continue the usual 'Daniel Craig's Bond films are crap' conversation by all means... 8-|

    His tenure is split right down the middle for me. I love Casino Royale and Skyfall...Quantum of Solace and Spectre, not so much (and even then there's quite a big drop between those two).
  • edited May 2020 Posts: 17,740
    mtm wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    Screencaps: Scotland location, second unit and stunt crew

    Thanks Contra, surprised no-one seems interested in this..?
    Contraband wrote: »
    Wax4PNd.jpg

    This is the one that interests me: they don't usually put those stunt driver rigs on top of cars for just standard driving scenes, do they? They're there for stunt driving, which suggests the V8 sees a bit of action. I'm not sure there was any hint of that before, was there?

    (Not much clearance on those wheelarches either! :) Have they lowered them?)

    There was the high-speed driving on the Atlantic Road. I imagine whatever action the V8 sees happens somewhere in that sequence, either before or after the shots they filmed on the AR.
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    I have a feeling god forbid if the pandemic happens again in November they will just move the movie to Netflix or something.
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