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Anyone seen this? LOL....Cringeworthy.
I am very much a fan of CR. I have also made it clear I think Daniel Craig has given his all to the role and taken it seriously. In many ways he has been a credit to the character.
Indeed, just like Lazenby, Brosnan and the others before him.
Agreed. All have their merits.
Bond was sent to explicitly to kill Marco Sciarra (and not miss the funeral). He tracked him to Mexico City (as he explains to Moneypenny). The stadium explosion plot would have been something Bond stumbled onto. Therefore, when he destroyed the briefcase, he prevented the stadium explosion, yes, but he hadn't completed his 'mission' from dead-M.
I've thought about this as well, and it occurs a lot throughout the franchise I think (henchmen try and kill Bond/villains put Bond in deadly situations, but ultimately villain wants to meet with and show off to Bond), and the best way I can figure it is Blofeld is putting Bond through 'trials'; if Hinx is able to kill him in Rome, or on the train, then he isn't worth meeting after all. If he is able to defeat Hinx, then I welcome him into my presence as a formidable opponent. Something like that.
Yeah, explains why Dr.No couldn't wait till dinner to see Bond....instead, he walks up to a sleeping Bond to see if he's HUMAN, since all his assassination attempts on Bond failed.
Could be, post production CG can be heavily involved in this film as they haven't shot much outside studio and even built two big sets possibly for Cuba and saffin's lair.
Yes but it wasn't exactly an official mission, he was on overdue holiday. Bond could have easily kill him in the crowd (difficult no doubt) but as i said it wasn't avoidable for someone like bond.
Yes, this was a plot hole that didn't get explained. It is possible that Hinx went rogue, and that could have easily been discussed by Blofeld at his lair.
Judi Dench answers questions from her most famous fans. Daniel Craig appears at 02:15
Plus interview with Dami Judi Dench in british Vogue, June Issue 2020
https://www.vogue.co.uk/news/article/judi-dench-vogue-interview
https://www.vogue.co.uk/fashion/article/behind-the-scenes-judi-dench-vogue-cover-shoot
https://www.vogue.co.uk/news/article/judi-dench-oldest-british-vogue-cover-star
I'm not sure what your point is. The original point seemed to be something like "Bond detonated the explosive device therefore preventing the explosion of the stadium. He didn't need to continue to pursue Sciarra". My argument was that he did need to pursue Sciarra as that was the whole point of Bond being in Mexico. Preventing the stadium explosion was just a bonus.
"Overdue holiday" was just Bond being coy to M.
From what I remember from the Mexico scenes in SP, doesn't he cause the problems by creating the explosion? Also, he endangers the people by getting in the helicopter. Otherwise they would just have taken off and there would have been no immediate danger?
I was responding to your comment on him that bond could have avoided going into the helicopter and not put people in danger by killing him in the crowd(easier said than done ofcourse). Still, i think we are getting off topic on this thread, i will get back to the on going discussion .
I never made the comment you're referring to here. I think maybe you're responding to the wrong person. :P
I agree that this is getting off topic.
The car club was apparently unaware that the road was to be used for filming Bond just days later…
The quote from the production company helping with the shoot at the Atlantic Road was:
No the bolded parts was posted by father Valentine, I was infact responding to the right person , still forget about it not important :)
Thanks @Torgeirtrap , do we know for sure if they shot those scenes they wanted after roads got damaged? it would be interesting to know how they will try to cover those lines, as they may wanted to shoot it completely real without using any CG.
You just quoted me directly and told me I made a comment which I didn't make... and then decide the conversation isn't worth having anymore... whatever.
From what I remember from the Mexico scenes in SP, doesn't he cause the problems by creating the explosion? Also, he endangers the people by getting in the helicopter. Otherwise they would just have taken off and there would have been no immediate danger?
The bolded part above was the comment by father Valentine in the last page, you didn't quoted to it, you are right about that, but you did respond to that in your next comment by this :
"Sciarras plot in Mexico City was to blow up the stadium full of people, which Bond prevents by exploding the device in the building while listening in on Sciarras conversation. Bond says to M at their meeting, “better a city block than a stadium full of people”.
This above post by you is what i was responding to by saying- bond could have avoided going into the helicopter and not put people in danger by killing him in the crowd during the festival (easier said than done ofcourse). Your argument was bond needed to pursue/kill sciarra but i was merely saying that he could have done that in the crowd (during day of the dead festival) instead of helicopter.
Sorry if i didn't made that clear.
@Resurrection In quotes from after they completed their work on the Atlantic Road, it was mentioned that they were happy with what they were able to film, so I imagine they were able to do what they wanted to do. I couldn't find any more quotes about those tire marks, so maybe they found a way to get rid of them, or maybe they found a way to shoot those scenes without the tire marks showing too much (potentially fixing the rest in post).
Yes, i believe they must have used some CG because i doubt they can remove those lines in a few days after that.
Thank you for posting this, it does clear it up. In that case you're definitely correct; there was the possibility of Bond killing Sciarra in the crowd before they even got to the chopper. Sorry for my misunderstanding and thanks again for taking the time to clear it up.
No problem ;)
Would guess so. It must be annoying though, planning a shoot only to find the stretch of road they've settled on filming at spoiled like that. Hopefully it will look fine in the film.
Yes on the subject of CG erasing, it’s quite interesting in that making of video that in the shot where one of the Land Rovers flips there’s a helicopter and drone filming it but the Toyota has one of of those stunt pods on the roof. So if they use any footage from the helicopter you’d imagine they’d have to do some pretty heavy CG work on the Toyota, replacing it completely probably.
Rubbish, no actor whether you like him or not (we know you hate him) has given themselves physically to the role like DC. He might not eloquently promote them but as far as the work he puts in, he puts them all in the shade.
This isn't about him being the best this about how he commits to the role and no one else compares in that department.
Goldfinger wouldn't be stopped if Bond didn't convince (or force :) ) Pussy to come on his side. I certainly wouldn't call that 'barely involved'.
The Bond Girl Fridays thread comes to mind.
Oh yes, even to his haters, this must be the one absolute, right @Shardlake.
Physically, Craig prepared like no other Bond; he needed and wanted the transformation.
I remember there were many members on this forum making fun of his disheveled look shortly after his daughter was born. They were doubting he could get in shape for the next Bond film.
But he did. In spades.