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This reminds me when I used to watch Once Upon A Time, at some point the show was so convoluted and the characters so unlikable that I had more fun trying to place the flashbacks in the timeline than I actually had as I watched the show.
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No, I am not drunk when typing. But a neck injury from 2016 caused nerve damage down my left arm and in my hand. My fingers don't work all that well. Typing is hard--texting even more difficult.
I wasn't debating or criticizing you, I'm sorry if it came across that way. I was just commenting on the assumptions that the man who wrote the article had.
No problem. I'm not offended. Just bored
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Back in the 2000s you could’ve pulled off a black Bond who embodied all of the characteristics one would associate with Bond. But the conversation has changed dramatically. There is a weight of cultural baggage that comes with it. The conversation now dictates colour, not character, is the overwhelming driver. If you’re black you are ‘x’ and if you’re white you are ‘y’.
Naturally I wish that wasn’t the case and I’m sure most rational individuals of all colours and creeds would have no issue (or even care) but the current media-fuelled war between the far left and far right makes it a lose lose for everyone at this moment in time.
And I get what you’re saying @RC7, yes it will be difficult considering the political climate, but at the same time, If we always felt like this, nothing would change and progress, so I think the important distinction in the argument is that it can be done even if there will be some conflicting issues along the way. EON are pretty brave; we know that - whether we agree with their decisions or not.
Ohh, I got stoned (not the right kind of stoned) the last time I said that. You're absolutely spot on, of course. I've tried to mix that argument with my opinion on proper intelectual property adaptation and you wouldn't believe the size of the boulders I got hit with.
Believe me, people don't recognise when the need to serve an agenda is a transference of personal angst, and said agenda is lodged in their active unconscious, so they generally do a disservice to the cause. Feminists, anti-racists, anti-bigots, ..., are all superb paradigmas to wear and fight for, but for the most part, they do it the wrong way, with the wrong kind of bullheadedness, just compulsory repeating their views. I am a feminist, an anti-racism and anti bigotry and so on, but I don't feel the need to inundate all subjects with those fighting causes. Bond is a white fictional character, very well described on paper. The need to change that is the wrong way to go about fighting for the black cause or the feminist cause. Just create better roles for genders and different races. Don't keep sparking the fuse by being racist and misandrist and confusing things.
It is not racist nor mysogynist to keep Bond faithful to his depiction on the page.
But trust me, @RC7, this is an endless debate, that contaminates threads like a pandemic of its own. Better steer clear. I've not been in the "next Bond" thread for some time now, because it's a bucket full of bullheadedness there. Reason doesn't stand a chance against it.
Same here, @CraigMooreOHMSS, old pal. It'll take more than that ;)
I think that's because it's largely a US influenced debate.
If a non-white Bond is in consideration, Henry Golding is the best choice IMO.
He could indeed pull it off.
Is this whataboutism or what?
I would hope that 100% of the “it would be fine if Bond was black” crowd would be fine if Bond was Asian.
Yes but I suppose his question is why does media attention go towards a black bond about 100x more than an Asian one, considering racial statistics for England.
Ah yeah true. In that case it’s probably due to Idris Elba being a candidate for the next Bond for awhile? I imagine that ignited the discussion, and partly also because it’s a US market fuelled debate as has been mentioned previously.
We're running after our own tails over and over again, in a nihilistic circle of eternal return.
They could very well release a damn clip. One. Just one. But a stylish one that would keep the spark alive for some time. As it stands, NTTD just isn't that interesting anymore. Proof? We're discussing the black Bond thing in Daniel Craig's film production thread, in the next Bond thread, and who knows where else? There's just nothing else to talk about besides covid and the geopolitics that surround it. Could the producers send a small balm for our feverish heads? To take away the seriousness of our circumstances? Yes they could. They don't have to. We're certainly not owed. But they could, yes they could. We'd appreciate it, I'm sure.
Especially if one has a big brassy Bond theme rendition. :P that would keep me going for awhile
Exactly :) that's the idea to keep us going for a while....the months would go faster.
Q Branch can run crazy with that concept.
Appearing in court for sexual harassment lawsuits is the sequel.
Yeah, I want a good & stylish Gunbarrel as well. It's strange that CR's Gunbarrel is still his best, and it's not even the traditional Gunbarrel, but then again Craig's Bond is at his best, when his Bond film isn't entirely traditional. But since lots of things would change in this film, it's possible there might be some inventiveness with the Gunbarrel, which would be good, if done properly....but with all these talks of James Bond dying, which I don't like, I would for the first time, really want the Gunbarrel at the film's end, as I feel it would be more symbolic if the dying rumours are true, just to signify that Bond's death was a sort of Hoax.
This is true, i hope the rumors aren't true about bond dying. SP gunbarrel was best for me, still as much as I like SP gunbarrel, they completely ruined it by that tagline "The dead are alive" and it should have opened like this from the skull.