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When NTTD was filmed, Bond carried a Nokia 3210. ;))
I also agree on Malek, he was never a star to begin with, and FREDDIE MERCURY was a perfect role for him. He was lucky to get Bond off the back of it, but all the air has been let out of that ballon also.
Was Billie Eilish that popular to begin with? I can't say that I have heard her songs get much airtime. By comparison, I have heard Midnight Sky by Miley Cyrus so much last year and still into 2021, that when I looked up the release date, I was shocked to see that it released as late as August of 2020!
Might NTTD be re-recorded by someone else, while the Eilish version is pushed to the end credits?
Something comes to mind. You were wearing the Borat swimsuit while "just showing the turtle a good time", weren't you? ;-)
By the way, I don't like the loop whistle in TMWTGG, I just don't. It makes me want to cry in my momma's lap. I feel that's more than enough legal ground for a class action lawsuit, no? I'm going to lawyer up and demand that Barbara be fired for that! Why? Because she is the face of EON these days and so in my narrow-minded views she is the only one making decisions, therefore the only one who I shall target in my "entitled fan" quest for a justice no-one really cares about. She wasn't even old enough to have anything to say about the loop whistle, but that doesn't make a difference. My fanboy anger has driven me insane. I don't care about the world, global warming, COVID-19: no, I demand satisfaction for not getting the Bond films that I want, when I want them and how I want them delivered to me! Hear me roar.
Whilst I appreciate your concerns, I think you're forgetting one thing...Bond!
I don't recall a Bond film being reliant on the title song artist. I'd say that's the least appealing part of the movie for most. Same with the villain. Sure it's good to have a good actor in the villains role. And the part has to be well written, but that's not a factor that will stop putting bums on seats.
So regardless whether the film comes out in 2021 or further on, it's unlikely to have a massive effect on the film. The biggest thing about a Bond film, is that it's a Bond film.
It's an event, it's bigger than the song, the villain even the lead actor. Bond is bigger than Connery, Moore, Brosnan or Craig. It's Bond. James Bond.
Without the pandemic NTTD would’ve come out 4.5 years after SP. They “didn’t wait 6 years to wrap up the story”.
This is actually close to the truth, as one of Q's phones in NTTD is indeed a Nokia 3210.
See the first pic here for proof:
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Then Christopher Nolan can take control and cast Aidan Tuner as Bond, yes I think we can see right through some peoples vindictive little snipes at this current era.
Yes the previous era did knock them out at a fair rate but they were far from all great films with no issues.
I had Some Kind of Hero for Christmas off my Wife and it is utterly fascinating reading about the inner working of the making of these films and finding out that things were far from harmonious all the time.
Also I'm only as far as the chapter on NSNA.
There is a tendency to wear rose tinted specs when it comes to the previous era and think it was also much better then and Cubby was much more in control but I imagine he'd hit the same kind of road blocks that his Daughter and Step son have.
No BB & MGW aren't Cubby they are their own persons and I think he'd still be very proud of both of them despite the bumps in the road.
Anyone would think they'd run the series into the ground not that they'd relaunched the series with a new Bond and every film had been more than profitable.
The detractors o f this era always seem to forget the legal problems and focus on blaming Barbara and Daniel for this.
Of course Nolan would come along and wave a magic wand like Harry Potter and all would be perfect.
Well not on the evidence of his last car crash they wouldn't
I am a bit concerned about the series' future post NTTD. I just hope the turmoil of having to keep delaying this film doesn't put a damper on Barbara's enthusiasm for Bond for future outings.
I dont think they would want to damage their relationship with Eilish, and the bad publicity that would ensue.
It's honestly embarrassing at this point.
I can rank my favourite Bond actors and all the movies. I can give pros and cons for each and state why and discuss it as a fan without coming across as a negative party pooper. At no point while doing this do I completely rag on any of them for being worse or better than the other or make other fans feel like complete garbage or be a WUM towards them for their preference. Life is way too short for that nonsense (or to even care if people ARE like that in the first place)
The dynamite comics thread has been pretty good for this. A lot of people disliked The Body (I can imagine some may have felt similar towards Reflections of Death, anyway, I digress). I appreciated the direction it tried to take but it hit way wide of the mark. I kinda like it. Boring in places. But it did something a bit different/experimental. There's no negativity in there, though, just a preference for one or another. No lobbying. No obsessing. No continuous bashing and negativity. No judging other members for their choices (which, by the way, I do believe should go both ways - but the lobbying does get a bit ridiculous when unchecked as it seems to have created a bias).
I question whether they're fans or trolls at this point. Maybe we should stop feeding them and they will miraculously find something better in their life. Or move onto a Marvel movie forum. Or a DC forum and continue bemoaning there, etc, etc.
As for the film, at this point I don't care. I love Bond. It'll arrive when it arrives. I do think April 2021 looks unlikely but I know that at some point I'll get to see it and that's all I care about. I get people are frustrated and really want to see it. I do, too. It'll get there.
EDIT: Would also like to add, I think we're in a great position where we can say that EVERY Bond actor we've had has knocked it out the park in one way or another. They just chose to accentuate one factor over the other. I'm not quite sure that Marvel or DC fans can say that about their own franchises... Yet... Here we are.
Unless it was mutual.
I can’t honestly see NTTD being released this year , and I think it will take some time for confidence in going to the cinema to grow back.
I always think it's quite interesting just how much of a mess FRWL was during production.
I'm with you, @MajorDSmythe. The few who wouldn't mind diving right back into cinema seats, either today or even after months of vaccination, won't suffice for the film to make the money it has to. A film like NTTD needs the widest crowd possible. And it's going to take a long time for the "new normal" (whatever that means) to have permeated all aspects of our lives.
This was like a breath of fresh air, and lots of common sense— thank you for this @00Heaven !
To be fair, a great chunk of things that are popular musically don't rely on airtime anymore.
That being said, I've heard Billie on the radio plenty.
Yep, me as well. She had two singles released after NTTD, and they've been pretty much on the air constantly. As a younger Bond fan that's perhaps more surrounded by teenage girls (because of social life and family) than any long-term Bond fans, I can assure you she's still pretty popular among the younger age groups.
If anything, she's proven she doesn't need Bond as she already released new material, and young people who might've bought a ticket to NTTD because of her, might now not do that anymore, because they (like her) have moved on.
Young people want new things in a quick succession, and Billie Eilish does exactly that.
Good one, @delfloria! :D Imagina that, a fan-community-made Bond film. Not only would such a film never be made, even hypothetically speaking it wouldn't be worth a thing. We all have completely different expectations, demands, preferences and peeves. The first brainstorm session with 50 fans would end up in a Dr. Strangelove type of food fight. ;-)
99.9% of the viewers don't care about any 60th anniversary.
The only hysterics in this engagement seem to becoming from you, I’m afraid. I get it, you want to see the movie, we all do; maybe you even feel entitled to it for some god forsaken reason; you will unfortunately have to face reality sooner or later; your probably going to have to wait a little longer for your movie, sport.
It isn’t just coronavirus at this point affecting the release of NTTD; afterwards there’s an entire cinema industry hanging in the balance that could drastically affect how and when we see the film.
I'm ambivalent about how this could play out for NTTD. On the one hand, there are a lot of blockbusters waiting in the wings - literally several potential billion-dollar films just sitting in the queue. Maybe competing in that market will be horribly cutthroat and it will hurt the film's chances.
On the other hand, there should be a huge amount of pent-up demand by the time cinemas actually re-open and people can go safely. So perhaps all those people will be going to cinema more often, in larger groups, during week days, and so on - maybe everyone will be able to do great box office for a while.
I don't have a crystal ball - just curious to see how it will work.
Saying that it will be delayed a bit is one thing. Saying that it will be delayed to 2022 is an entirely different ballgame. Unless WW3 starts, NTTD will come out in 2021.
We certainly hope so.
Book spot: Postwar: A History of Europe Since 1945, by Tony Judt.