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At it's best, I would agree. But First Contact & Insurrection rank among the better 2nd tier episodes IMO.
ST has also Q.
+1 you've summed up exactly how I feel mate, word for word
I don't personally agree. The shifts don't really jar for me and having a dour adrenaline kick like the beginning and the end for the whole film would have been too much, I think. I love what a suprise those Jamaica and Cuba scenes where the first time and I still love them.
But I am very interested how the film will age and the tonal shifts are one of the areas where I am most interested in how I myself, people who will look back on the Craig era and people who maybe are discovering the franchise for the first time will rate the film based on that.
We've all discussed this a thousand times by now, but I think NTTD will not become one of the most rewatchable Bond films, because of that ending; but the PTS and the Cuba fight f.e. are among the most rewatchable sequences of the last few decades, for me personally. We'll see how that plays out.
So you want...QoS.
Same for me.
Completely disagree.The Cuba scenes was a chance to have some good old fashioned FUN before the film took a dark turn.The film is depressing enough as it is so thank god there was SOME light hearted fun in the film.
In NTTD the tonal shifts are tied to large set pieces/chunks of the film rather than slipping in "moments".
- The opening sticks to the thriller/horror aspect, the Matera sequence draws on CR/QoS with the hard hitting action fused with the intense emotionality.
- Jamaica/Cuba/London we get the classic Bondness with a healthy dose of silly.
- Norway/Safin's island is where NTTD really becomes it's own thing, yes it has the classic villain's lair and all but the stakes and tone aren't necessarily reflective of something we're used to in the franchise.
Agreed. I think it was important to see Bond have a little fun in his last movie before his ultimate fate played out. This is why I’m pleased of seeing Bond and Felix enjoying themselves at the bar, because it’s not something the whole film series really did and it made Felix’s death more impactful. It’s also important that the very moment Bond is facing death he’s not at all bitter about what’s happening but seems appreciative of what he got out of life before leaving this realm.
Oh, very much so....very much so. CR & QoS. I think those two Bond films are the ones that Craig's Bond is instantly recognizable the most. I love lighter moments. It's also in CR & QoS. But I'm like....why the lighter moments in NTTD? If our hero's end is a must. It's like Gladiator(2000). it was already looking like Maximus was going to die, because the film maintained that dark tone. There was no point having Maximus joke much, when he was going to die at the end. My point is, I feel Bond's death would have been easier to accept, if the film maintained the dark and serious tone it opened with. But with all the lighter moments, to an extent his death felt abrupt, even if the build-up to it was slow.
I agree with @GadgetMan and when thinking about the tone of scenes like Cuba it's quite jarring when compared to the PTS and Bond's demise. The Cuba scenes had spectre agents all over the place and yet Bond seemed like he was at a theme park. Compare this scene to the Tosca shootout in QoS or any action scene in CR and QoS, the latter films had action scenes that are more tonally aligned with NTTD's PTS and ending. The Cuba scenes although fun comes off as a bit goofy. Paloma was great to look at but she was completely irrelevant to the film.
+1
NTTD had well shot and more importantly well EDITED action scenes,unlike QOS.
Oh, Yeah...sure. But I think our responses to the Bond films are more emotional than intellectual...or else, Bond fans won't love DAF, MR, AVTAK, DAD, SP, etc.
AVTAK is like SP- probably watch them one more time before I die.
MR is like SF & NTTD- been there; done with that. I'd sooner watch NSNA.
Me too. David is a very amiable interviewer and she comes across as very personable.
Very well put indeed. Agree with this wholeheartedly.
I agree with all you said, and particularly the above.
Yeah to me the deaths were meaningful and the story very smartly introduced links to World War II, further tying to it to Fleming and the origins of the Bond character. With timeless story elements engaged. So beyond the breadcrumbs which were also enjoyed.
Credit to the current producers for such a great tribute to the originators Broccoli and Saltzman and their franchise. With probably the ultimate tribute to them: its success.