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That's what I was doing @NicNac. I know the current trend in music is to make everything sound homogeneous to the point where it becomes just well-packaged comfort food, but this really does sound like TWOTW Part 2 to my ears. The only major difference is that it's sung by a teenage girl rather than a 23-year-old dude and has Hans Zimmer propping it up.
For the record, I don't think it's terrible. I just don't think it's spectacular enough for a Bond movie. Couldn't the same be said of Craig's Bond character in all of his movies, though, so why didn't CR and QoS not have turgid ballads to accompany them? And how do you know it would be "ludicrous to have a song akin to Thunderball, Live and Let Die etc" without having seen the movie yet? Not that I'm saying NTTD has to sound like either. Of course, you could be right and the movie leaves us feeling deeply depressed after seeing it, therefore the song could well be apt. It's far too early to say yet.
Besides, the lyrical content isn't my own personal gripe about Billie's song, it's the congruent nature of the musical themes that seem a direct steal from Sam Smith's song that irk me the most. Do I hate it? No. Do I love it? No again. I just think it's another limp and uninspired offering from the studio is all. At least Sam Smith's was original. This just feels like a recycled retread of its predecessor.
Wow, never though Billie Eilish would get compared to Britney Spears! Very different kettle of fish.
1. You Know My Name
2. Skyfall
3. No Time To Die
4. Another Way To Die
It's a shame SPECTRE had no audible music for its title track. ;)
I wasn't aware of Chris Cornell until he sang YKMN. I agree 100% with what you're saying but much like the gross earnings of a Bond film are not a way to gauge quality, neither is the popularity of an artist at that point in time, IMO. There are other popular artists right now that I feel would've made a far superior Bond theme then Billie.
"Arguably" is a good word you've chosen there @jorgem. Chalk and cheese springs to mind.
In fact, this will be the Bond soundtrack with the most instances of artificial strings so far.
+1 Summed it up perfectly mate. It's like a better version of WOTW
I've heard it twice today and I don't know yet how I feel about it. I'm surprised I like it as much as I do, but it I thought it might get going and as the song did, it finished.
@Getafix said it best, that it's a shame there's nothing more distinctive about it. I did like her big note at the end though.
I took my girlfriend's sister to school this morning (she's a big Eilish fan) and she was raving about how much she loved the song and how it might already be in her top 5. So from a promotion stand point, it's genius.
Sorry to just ramble on, I like it more than I thought basically
I agree. I suspect, when people (who are perhaps not convinced by it so far) hear the song with the titles, and in context with the film, they will really get it.
I think the song is haunting and the lyrics are great. All suggesting this Bond film is going to be very emotional and packed with mysteries and secrets.
AWTD was a disaster. The instrumental is actually top notch but the singing is just all over the place and Jack and Alicia make for an unlikely duo who's styles do not mesh at all. Forgettable.
SF is a song that wouldn't have been well regarded if Adele hadn't sung it. But it works for the movie and is serviceable. The musical arrangement is very good and Adele really does it justice. I expected more but its definitely a classic and memorable.
TWOTW is a great song in and of itself, and the instrumental is sweeping and grandiose. But considering it's sung from Bond's perspective, the falsetto grates and it really baffles how Mendes allowed this to be included. It wasn't aided by the awkward title sequence and it really doesn't suit Spectre at all. I was really hoping for a song from the villains perspective or something focused on the villain or his scheme. The love ballad just sounds misplaced and I honestly think Mendes really didn't give a damn at this point. But like i said, independent of Bond its a great song.
Now for NTTD...I love it. The lyrics, the arrangement, the voice, the build up at the end etc. Its perfect and quintessentially a JB song. Whilst I agree that it could have gone bigger and broader, I think we will have that for the title sequence with the instrumentals being more pronounced (similar to YKMN). I think this version is more suited to Billie's musical style. Is it safe? Somewhat, but I prefer 'low key' instead. I put it on par with SF. Though I think its potential is huge depending on what film we get, and how its woven into the soundtrack and title sequence.
Super excited now.
I sensed this would be the main motif.
+1
Yeah I've absolutely no issue with that. Tom Jones had his first big hit in the very same year Thunderball was released- he wasn't exactly unfashionable! And don't forget that John Barry himself had been in the hit parade for a couple of years before he got hired. If anyone doesn't like them hiring new artists from the charts then they obviously disagree with John Barry being hired! :D
Yeah, if they don't give this one an Oscar too then the Oscars really are meaningless... because it's essentially the same song that's won for Bond the last two times! :D
No, it's New Order's Blue Monday. Congratulation on your good hearimg.
Well not massively. They're both very big and very pop.
Yes and your point being?
I just love stringed instruments, hence my enthousiasm. We cannot all nitpick and dislike everything just for the sake of being negative.
My apologies.
Yes, thank you. We covered the whole thing of it being a cover of that, but not one handled by Zimmer, on a previous page. If only your spelling was as good as my hearing, we'd both be doing okay! :)
Regarding the new song, I've had it on repeat in work all morning. It's quite good. Not a classic, but good. It works incredibly well in that 40-something second montage of new footage on the 007 page.
I've a feeling it'll be firmly rooted in my head by the time of release. I wonder if we'll get a different version over the main title sequence? Extra instrumentation, etc.
Meandering, dreary, weak. Yet another song to rival DAD, QoS or SP as the worst songs in the franchise, and it sounds like another Sam Smith TWOTW effort (as if we needed another).
The Babs era is being properly defined now, and her reign boasts the worst songs in the franchise. SF and YKMN are the only exceptions.
Let's hope the film is better than the song (shouldn't be too difficult), but its not looking good. Yet another sign that we are in for SP Part II.
It's fine.
The end of the chorus is near idential to Writing's On The Wall. Near exact same melody.
WOTW chorus
"How do I live? How do I breathe?"
repeated in NTTD as
"Fool me once, fool me twice"
WOTW chorus:
"For you I have to risk it all
'Cause the writing's on the wall"
"Same melody repeated in NTTO
"Now you never see me cry
There's just no time to die."
Same melody more or less. In this regard the song is a bit disappointing because the chorus mirrors WOTW too much.
That's a little harsh. :-??
It's awful.
She has a good voice 👍
I think he's trying to be provocative. Bit of a running theme.
I think Boy George's song with a big brass backing could be a corker!
"There's always time to die, Mr Bond."
"Not according to the song!"
:P
Oh, I do know him. =))
"Billie Eilish has been my number one choice to do this theme song since I came on board this project, 18 months later, I can hardly contain my excitement for this moment. She and Finneas have delivered a spectacular and haunting song that gives me chills every time I listen to it."